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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 00:12:47
August 19 2015 00:12 GMT
#104101
On August 19 2015 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 21:47 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:16 Miragee wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.


Wait I can top that.

+ Show Spoiler +
I never watched it but it's boring because it looks like it's boring.


You are not 100% wrong. But I think it's a niche show so everyone's mileage varies.

How exactly do you define a niche show? I really don't see how one of the best selling anime of all time is niche, unless you mean in the sense that anime itself is niche.

I was assured that it was niche by Toad, because none of the people he knows IRL have ever heard of it.

I said it's not Mainstream or well known for people who only watch Pokemon, Naruto and stuff like that when we had a discussion about wether it's Anime-beginner friendly.

I'd say the meaning here is a bit different.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 19 2015 00:13 GMT
#104102
On August 19 2015 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:47 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:16 Miragee wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.


Wait I can top that.

+ Show Spoiler +
I never watched it but it's boring because it looks like it's boring.


You are not 100% wrong. But I think it's a niche show so everyone's mileage varies.

How exactly do you define a niche show? I really don't see how one of the best selling anime of all time is niche, unless you mean in the sense that anime itself is niche.

I was assured that it was niche by Toad, because none of the people he knows IRL have ever heard of it.

I said it's not Mainstream or well known for people who only watch Pokemon, Naruto and stuff like that when we had a discussion about wether it's Anime-beginner friendly.

I'd say the meaning here is a bit different.

How exactly do you define a mainstream show? I really don't see how one of the best selling anime of all time is not mainstream, unless you mean in the sense that anime itself is not mainstream.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 19 2015 00:19 GMT
#104103
On August 19 2015 09:13 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 09:12 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:05 Sentenal wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:47 KazeHydra wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:16 Miragee wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.


Wait I can top that.

+ Show Spoiler +
I never watched it but it's boring because it looks like it's boring.


You are not 100% wrong. But I think it's a niche show so everyone's mileage varies.

How exactly do you define a niche show? I really don't see how one of the best selling anime of all time is niche, unless you mean in the sense that anime itself is niche.

I was assured that it was niche by Toad, because none of the people he knows IRL have ever heard of it.

I said it's not Mainstream or well known for people who only watch Pokemon, Naruto and stuff like that when we had a discussion about wether it's Anime-beginner friendly.

I'd say the meaning here is a bit different.

How exactly do you define a mainstream show? I really don't see how one of the best selling anime of all time is not mainstream, unless you mean in the sense that anime itself is not mainstream.


how much it sells might be a good estimation for how popular it is in Japan.

I still think stuff like Death Note is way more popular in the West among casuals. Heck even stuff like Attack on Titan and Sword Art Online is probably more well known to a guy who has watched less than (let's take a number out of nowhere) 2-4 series of anime with half of them being something out of DBZ/Naruto/Pokemon
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 19 2015 00:21 GMT
#104104
And what are you basing this assumption on that its way less popular in the west?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 19 2015 00:28 GMT
#104105
I've not once heard someone say the name Bakemonogatari outside TL-ADT.
Like you mentioned above, most of my friends who watched less that ~3 animes in their lifetime however do know what OnePiece/Naruto/DBZ/Pokemon/Attack on Titan/Sword Art Online is.
Whenever I'm reading stuff about anime on other messageboards or whereever it's always the same "you should watch Death Note!" or "try out Attack on Titan! Totally not a kiddy show!!!"

Don't even know why you're making a big deal out of it. Yes it's only my own experience about it. I never claimed to be some allknowing guy who wrote a thesis about this. Just said that in my experience Bakemongatari isn't well known within a circle of people who are new to anime.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
August 19 2015 00:43 GMT
#104106
In the west, I think, anything that has not been on Toonami is "not mainstream". (Possibly things that are also shown on TV here, although not that abomination of Card Captor Sakura that was on the WB.)

Then there are people that are somewhat aware, who have probably seen a few other series.

But he's right. Monogatari is not as well known as (obviously, in my opinion) it should be. It's like noting that in the west Hayate is not that well known, despite being very popular. (I don't know about Hayate, actually, except that I didn't know about it until I moved and started to watch anime almost exclusively because I can't get cable.)
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
August 19 2015 00:45 GMT
#104107
On August 19 2015 02:43 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.

In other news I'm up to 5-B in OwC. Felt 4 was a bit average. It had some nice Shinjou moments but I wasn't too fond of all the air dragon combat. Maybe if it was animated it would be way cooler. Overall enjoying the series quite a bit and haven't found it any more confusing than Horizon. In fact it seems far more straight forward than Horizon. There's also more incredibly lewd scenes so confused why it didn't get animated instead of horizon. I can just imagine Shinjou stealing the hearts of all.

5th gear just has a boring concept. It doesn't let them do crazy stuff like 1st or 2nd. Heo is also pretty lackluster compared to all the other gear-centric characters so far.


At least Harakawa is better than Hiba.

Also, most seem to enjoy the Sf- Itaru dynamic a lot. So do I - but I honestly like Ooshiro - #8 even more. I enjoy the sillyness.

Kawakami has another series besides Horizon and OnC on baka-tsuki now, Hexennacht. Takes place in the obstacle era and seems like it could be fun.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 00:47:37
August 19 2015 00:47 GMT
#104108
On August 19 2015 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
I've not once heard someone say the name Bakemonogatari outside TL-ADT.
Like you mentioned above, most of my friends who watched less that ~3 animes in their lifetime however do know what OnePiece/Naruto/DBZ/Pokemon/Attack on Titan/Sword Art Online is.
Whenever I'm reading stuff about anime on other messageboards or whereever it's always the same "you should watch Death Note!" or "try out Attack on Titan! Totally not a kiddy show!!!"

Don't even know why you're making a big deal out of it. Yes it's only my own experience about it. I never claimed to be some allknowing guy who wrote a thesis about this. Just said that in my experience Bakemongatari isn't well known within a circle of people who are new to anime.

So you have never been on /a/ or reddit before?

+ Show Spoiler +
Honestly I'm just seizing an opportunity to troll Monogatari fans, so you can just ignore me if I'm bothering you.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 19 2015 00:49 GMT
#104109
I have indeed never been on /a/ or reddit o/
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
August 19 2015 01:04 GMT
#104110
On August 19 2015 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:
I have indeed never been on /a/ or reddit o/


Report, lack of e-culture
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 19 2015 01:39 GMT
#104111
On August 19 2015 09:45 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 02:43 Spazer wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.

In other news I'm up to 5-B in OwC. Felt 4 was a bit average. It had some nice Shinjou moments but I wasn't too fond of all the air dragon combat. Maybe if it was animated it would be way cooler. Overall enjoying the series quite a bit and haven't found it any more confusing than Horizon. In fact it seems far more straight forward than Horizon. There's also more incredibly lewd scenes so confused why it didn't get animated instead of horizon. I can just imagine Shinjou stealing the hearts of all.

5th gear just has a boring concept. It doesn't let them do crazy stuff like 1st or 2nd. Heo is also pretty lackluster compared to all the other gear-centric characters so far.


At least Harakawa is better than Hiba.

Also, most seem to enjoy the Sf- Itaru dynamic a lot. So do I - but I honestly like Ooshiro - #8 even more. I enjoy the sillyness.

Kawakami has another series besides Horizon and OnC on baka-tsuki now, Hexennacht. Takes place in the obstacle era and seems like it could be fun.


He has 4
Horizon, owari, Hexennacht and City.

Timeline is owari -> horizon -> Hexennacht -> city from what i remember
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 19 2015 02:58 GMT
#104112
On August 19 2015 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:
I have indeed never been on /a/ or reddit o/


Yes Reddit, the the fiefdom of repressed white power nerds is the winner when it comes to settling disagreements.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
August 19 2015 05:23 GMT
#104113
On August 19 2015 09:45 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 02:43 Spazer wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.

In other news I'm up to 5-B in OwC. Felt 4 was a bit average. It had some nice Shinjou moments but I wasn't too fond of all the air dragon combat. Maybe if it was animated it would be way cooler. Overall enjoying the series quite a bit and haven't found it any more confusing than Horizon. In fact it seems far more straight forward than Horizon. There's also more incredibly lewd scenes so confused why it didn't get animated instead of horizon. I can just imagine Shinjou stealing the hearts of all.

5th gear just has a boring concept. It doesn't let them do crazy stuff like 1st or 2nd. Heo is also pretty lackluster compared to all the other gear-centric characters so far.


At least Harakawa is better than Hiba.

Also, most seem to enjoy the Sf- Itaru dynamic a lot. So do I - but I honestly like Ooshiro - #8 even more. I enjoy the sillyness.

Kawakami has another series besides Horizon and OnC on baka-tsuki now, Hexennacht. Takes place in the obstacle era and seems like it could be fun.

The automatons are just godlike in general.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
August 19 2015 08:11 GMT
#104114
On August 19 2015 09:28 Toadesstern wrote:
I've not once heard someone say the name Bakemonogatari outside TL-ADT.
Like you mentioned above, most of my friends who watched less that ~3 animes in their lifetime however do know what OnePiece/Naruto/DBZ/Pokemon/Attack on Titan/Sword Art Online is.
Whenever I'm reading stuff about anime on other messageboards or whereever it's always the same "you should watch Death Note!" or "try out Attack on Titan! Totally not a kiddy show!!!"

Don't even know why you're making a big deal out of it. Yes it's only my own experience about it. I never claimed to be some allknowing guy who wrote a thesis about this. Just said that in my experience Bakemongatari isn't well known within a circle of people who are new to anime.


Even though personal experience is not a good way to judge things, it's probably the only way to get a rough idea of how things are if you have no other option at hand. Here I would generally agree on the obvservation that most people that don't know anime or ony watched a handful of them, such as Pokemon, One Piece etc., don't know Monogatari. Sure that can be said for almost every anime out there but it's usually the ones that Toad mentioned.

To add my own experience, IRL people that watched a handful of anime all know the usual big three as well as Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, AoT, SAO, Conan. Then it ends or they know a handful of other shows they looked in at random. Even people that have watched a whole lot of other anime (friends or people I know by games etc. I regularly talk to about anime) never mentioned Monogatari once. I never read about Monogatari on any message board that I frequent aside from TL/MAL. Even on MAL it isn't brought up that often and is very rarely recommended in the recommendation section. The only exception was one user on a german guild wars forum that had Shinobu as an avatar. What I frequently see on other message boards are those mentioned above and then things like Death Note, Geass, Steins;Gate, Full Metal Alchemist. Sure people bring up some "unknown" (and with unknown I mean things like DtB, Tatami Galaxy) up on other message boards but those are mostly single-mentions.
One other thing I noticed IRL is that older people that don't watch anime at all know classic movies like Akira, GitS, Appleseed etc. while younger ones don't. Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away are known by some.

For fun I checked the ArcheAge forum I frequented last year because I remembered people over there mentioned all kinds of anime. Monogatari got not mentioned once but even anime like Serial Experiments Lain got mentioned multiple times.

TL;DR: While it's not based on investigations with statistical validation just the observation makes it seem like that Monogatari doesn't belong to the small category of anime that is well known among people in the west that don't watch a whole lot of anime or no anime at all.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 19 2015 08:13 GMT
#104115
On August 19 2015 14:23 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 09:45 Maxie wrote:
On August 19 2015 02:43 Spazer wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.

In other news I'm up to 5-B in OwC. Felt 4 was a bit average. It had some nice Shinjou moments but I wasn't too fond of all the air dragon combat. Maybe if it was animated it would be way cooler. Overall enjoying the series quite a bit and haven't found it any more confusing than Horizon. In fact it seems far more straight forward than Horizon. There's also more incredibly lewd scenes so confused why it didn't get animated instead of horizon. I can just imagine Shinjou stealing the hearts of all.

5th gear just has a boring concept. It doesn't let them do crazy stuff like 1st or 2nd. Heo is also pretty lackluster compared to all the other gear-centric characters so far.


At least Harakawa is better than Hiba.

Also, most seem to enjoy the Sf- Itaru dynamic a lot. So do I - but I honestly like Ooshiro - #8 even more. I enjoy the sillyness.

Kawakami has another series besides Horizon and OnC on baka-tsuki now, Hexennacht. Takes place in the obstacle era and seems like it could be fun.

The automatons are just godlike in general.


Amen. Automations are the greatest. Well aside from Shinjou.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 19 2015 08:28 GMT
#104116
On August 19 2015 17:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 14:23 Spazer wrote:
On August 19 2015 09:45 Maxie wrote:
On August 19 2015 02:43 Spazer wrote:
On August 18 2015 21:10 Numy wrote:
Thanks for the input. Truly an immeasurable contribution to the discussion at hand.

In other news I'm up to 5-B in OwC. Felt 4 was a bit average. It had some nice Shinjou moments but I wasn't too fond of all the air dragon combat. Maybe if it was animated it would be way cooler. Overall enjoying the series quite a bit and haven't found it any more confusing than Horizon. In fact it seems far more straight forward than Horizon. There's also more incredibly lewd scenes so confused why it didn't get animated instead of horizon. I can just imagine Shinjou stealing the hearts of all.

5th gear just has a boring concept. It doesn't let them do crazy stuff like 1st or 2nd. Heo is also pretty lackluster compared to all the other gear-centric characters so far.


At least Harakawa is better than Hiba.

Also, most seem to enjoy the Sf- Itaru dynamic a lot. So do I - but I honestly like Ooshiro - #8 even more. I enjoy the sillyness.

Kawakami has another series besides Horizon and OnC on baka-tsuki now, Hexennacht. Takes place in the obstacle era and seems like it could be fun.

The automatons are just godlike in general.


Amen. Automations are the greatest. Well aside from Shinjou.


I want an honest answer:

How often did you rewatch naked Kuro with insufficient nipplecensorship rubbing her breasts against Illya's while frenchkissing her?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 19 2015 08:39 GMT
#104117
Honestly? After the 5th time it starts hurting and blanks start happening so I take a 12 hour break then start again.


+ Show Spoiler +
I didn't rewatch it you sick bastard. That was way too lewd for lolis man. Just keep it at the panty shots and be done with it.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 19 2015 08:46 GMT
#104118
I think what he posted in spoilers is meant to throw us off. But you can't mind game me, Numy. gg
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 13:54:27
August 19 2015 10:19 GMT
#104119
K-ON!! ep25, finally a decent episode again.

//oh my god, the latest chapter of One Punch Man was godlike. + Show Spoiler +
I couldn't stop grinning once he showed the list. Then the big guy showed up and never managed to hit Saitama while he was holding the list in front of his face and I just bursted out laughing. And then the end when he lost his wig... what a cliffhanger.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 19 2015 19:01 GMT
#104120
Haha, Kuusen is so funny. I hope the tournament will be good.
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