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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 17 2014 00:03 GMT
#70641
On February 17 2014 07:55 Toadesstern wrote:
you googled that to make sure, right?

=D
Skol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
February 17 2014 00:06 GMT
#70642
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.
this is a quote
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 17 2014 00:15 GMT
#70643
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
February 17 2014 00:42 GMT
#70644
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.
this is a quote
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 00:47:30
February 17 2014 00:43 GMT
#70645
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O
Never Knows Best.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 00:49:36
February 17 2014 00:48 GMT
#70646
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 17 2014 00:49 GMT
#70647
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.


Clannad's biggest issue was translating game-play elements into anime. But it wasn't close to an ass-pull, just that the foreshadowing was too confusing and too vague.

The bigger ass-pull would've been "surprise, Other World actually means nothing!"
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 17 2014 00:52 GMT
#70648
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 00:53:53
February 17 2014 00:53 GMT
#70649
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"
Never Knows Best.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 17 2014 00:54 GMT
#70650
On February 17 2014 09:53 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

So basically this is your first harem series?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 00:57:11
February 17 2014 00:56 GMT
#70651
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Because Obviously Onodera is the best girl + Show Spoiler [if only you have reached ep 100] +
Any Onodera will do but i prefer Haru than Kosaki
. True Tears has done. Good Ending has done it. Nisekoi will make it happen.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
February 17 2014 00:58 GMT
#70652
On February 17 2014 09:52 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?

Well my point is it would ruin one-piece war arc badly. I have not finished Chrono Trigger as a game. Sorry. Nor have i seen the anime so i have no comment about it.
this is a quote
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 17 2014 00:59 GMT
#70653
On February 17 2014 09:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:53 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

So basically this is your first harem series?


No I like harem series but this is just padded padded padded. Every other harem has these types of things but they don't go on for 100 chapters with no end in sight. It usually works because they don't have every padded element in it at once or they execute it well and within reason. This is still enjoyable but all the opportunities for everything to be cleared up that are squandered for no apparent reason are slightly annoying.
Never Knows Best.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 17 2014 01:03 GMT
#70654
On February 17 2014 09:59 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:53 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

So basically this is your first harem series?


No I like harem series but this is just padded padded padded. Every other harem has these types of things but they don't go on for 100 chapters with no end in sight. It usually works because they don't have every padded element in it at once or they execute it well and within reason. This is still enjoyable but all the opportunities for everything to be cleared up that are squandered for no apparent reason are slightly annoying.


Well, you've probably seen the best of the genre then, or at least some of the early archetypes (like Love Hina).

Because the endless padding and then "squandered opportunities" are quite par for the course.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
February 17 2014 01:04 GMT
#70655
On February 17 2014 09:59 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:53 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

So basically this is your first harem series?


No I like harem series but this is just padded padded padded. Every other harem has these types of things but they don't go on for 100 chapters with no end in sight. It usually works because they don't have every padded element in it at once or they execute it well and within reason. This is still enjoyable but all the opportunities for everything to be cleared up that are squandered for no apparent reason are slightly annoying.

Actually Nisekoi reached to the point having a plot progress but i feel like those times the editor/publisher asked the mangaka to prolong it due to popularity thats why it's going downhill right now.
this is a quote
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
February 17 2014 01:05 GMT
#70656
WCW so troll...
On February 17 2014 10:03 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:59 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:53 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:48 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:42 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:15 Ecael wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

Except it was not the point of either s;g or clannad to leave you with that feeling to begin with.

And that is the sad part about it. The show would have been ridiculously good if they didn't follow the plan and they just improvised.

Which leads to my original point. You just like seeing people dead and have melodrama from it.
On February 17 2014 09:43 Slaughter wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:59 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 08:55 Slaughter wrote:
Ok when it comes to Nisekoi I am reading the manga and.

+ Show Spoiler +
So far everything is basically screaming that Chitoge is the girl from the past. I know supposedly there will be multiple keys floating around but everything is pointing to the gorilla girl. Also I think that this story might have an actual choice because the opening chapter made it seem like he was telling a story of his past (inferring that it will have an actual legit ending).

+ Show Spoiler +
You will be surprised later buddy if you are thinking that chitoge is the only one being pointed out. There is even a closest character right now. Anyways keep reading the latest character in 100+ episodes is so entertaining. Don't worry i am not spoiling you everyone knows . Girl count will increase in Harem shows



+ Show Spoiler +
How can it be anyone else then Chitoge? I am not talking about who he ends up with but who the girl from the past is. They straight up just said "well you and her played together for a summer during secret talks." Oh and her eye color used to be a color that matched the girl (from the earlier red herring because she didn't have the right eye color). He even gave her the ribbon she is wears everyday.


Edit: Ok yea what are they doing O_O

Why did you ever expect there to be something not ambiguous.

The edit was good though, reminds me of Milkis defending Shingeki and have that very week be the biggest pos chapter making it obvious to all that mangaka has no fucking clue what he is doing.


No its just bad writing. The way things were stated made things relatively straight forward then the author just took a sip of the "I have to pad this shit" and just throws out random stupid behavior among the characters, a new girl to distract the reader, or basically saying "yea well here is THIS! ITS PLAUSIBLE RIGHT BECAUSE I NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!"

So basically this is your first harem series?


No I like harem series but this is just padded padded padded. Every other harem has these types of things but they don't go on for 100 chapters with no end in sight. It usually works because they don't have every padded element in it at once or they execute it well and within reason. This is still enjoyable but all the opportunities for everything to be cleared up that are squandered for no apparent reason are slightly annoying.


Well, you've probably seen the best of the genre then, or at least some of the early archetypes (like Love Hina).

Because the endless padding and then "squandered opportunities" are quite par for the course.


Thanks for reminding me to reread Love Hina
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 17 2014 01:11 GMT
#70657
On February 17 2014 09:58 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?

Well my point is it would ruin one-piece war arc badly. I have not finished Chrono Trigger as a game. Sorry. Nor have i seen the anime so i have no comment about it.

S;G is an anime that is about using time travel to try and "fix" various things that have happened. And then they succeed, and people who were dead now get to live. It sounds like mission accomplished, the anime did what it set out to do. How is that an ass pull? What you are describing with One Piece is no where near the same situation.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
February 17 2014 01:18 GMT
#70658
On February 17 2014 10:11 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 09:58 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?

Well my point is it would ruin one-piece war arc badly. I have not finished Chrono Trigger as a game. Sorry. Nor have i seen the anime so i have no comment about it.

S;G is an anime that is about using time travel to try and "fix" various things that have happened. And then they succeed, and people who were dead now get to live. It sounds like mission accomplished, the anime did what it set out to do. How is that an ass pull? What you are describing with One Piece is no where near the same situation.

Well to be honest i think they forgot about the idea they set in the start. It was you can never fix everything that you have done. It would have been a nice exchange that + Show Spoiler +
Christina died and he choose mayo even though i like the Ginger more than the annoying girl
. That he would regret and all those humanly emotions. Just my opinion though.Not every revival is good.
this is a quote
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-17 01:29:04
February 17 2014 01:27 GMT
#70659
On February 17 2014 10:18 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 10:11 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:58 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?

Well my point is it would ruin one-piece war arc badly. I have not finished Chrono Trigger as a game. Sorry. Nor have i seen the anime so i have no comment about it.

S;G is an anime that is about using time travel to try and "fix" various things that have happened. And then they succeed, and people who were dead now get to live. It sounds like mission accomplished, the anime did what it set out to do. How is that an ass pull? What you are describing with One Piece is no where near the same situation.

Well to be honest i think they forgot about the idea they set in the start. It was you can never fix everything that you have done. It would have been a nice exchange that + Show Spoiler +
Christina died and he choose mayo even though i like the Ginger more than the annoying girl
. That he would regret and all those humanly emotions. Just my opinion though.Not every revival is good.

"Forgot about the idea they set in the start"? What? Look, maybe you don't like what the anime set out to do, thats perfectly fine. But when it does what it intended to do ("fixing" time), that isn't an ass pull. There is a difference between "I don't like this" and "This is an ass pull".

If you want to look at anime that have actual ass pulls, check out Code Geass or Valvrave. They are full of them. S;G not so much.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 17 2014 01:54 GMT
#70660
On February 17 2014 10:18 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 10:11 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:58 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:52 Sentenal wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:06 goody153 wrote:
On February 17 2014 09:01 Ecael wrote:
I like how if people don't stay dead goody describes it as asspull, regardless of how it was either historically what the company/studio does or it makes thematic sense.

Not staying dead is fine. I just hate it whenever they do it and the theme/mood of the show is supposed to be sad/lonely/devastated. Especially when they are doing a good job of making the viewers feel ugly. They just remove it.

Imagine if ever you are watching one piece. During the war arc + Show Spoiler +
After ace dying he suddenly gets revived
.

Their were pretty good dead going back to life like what happened in Law Of Euki last arc. I almost fucking cried that time.

I don't see how thats comparable to One Piece in the least. Would you describe Chrono Trigger as a game with retarded, game-ruining asspulls too?

Well my point is it would ruin one-piece war arc badly. I have not finished Chrono Trigger as a game. Sorry. Nor have i seen the anime so i have no comment about it.

S;G is an anime that is about using time travel to try and "fix" various things that have happened. And then they succeed, and people who were dead now get to live. It sounds like mission accomplished, the anime did what it set out to do. How is that an ass pull? What you are describing with One Piece is no where near the same situation.

Well to be honest i think they forgot about the idea they set in the start. It was you can never fix everything that you have done. It would have been a nice exchange that + Show Spoiler +
Christina died and he choose mayo even though i like the Ginger more than the annoying girl
. That he would regret and all those humanly emotions. Just my opinion though.Not every revival is good.

They didn't, that's why the steins;gate timeline isn't just a return of how everything used to be.
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