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If you come in here looking for "anime recommendations" then please refer to this chart before posting: Anime Recommendations (as of may 2014). We also have an IRC channel called #tladt where we all hang out. The channel is on Rizon, not QuakeNet! Feel free to check it out. TLADT discord is Discord.gg

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 23 2012 19:33 GMT
#37621
On February 24 2012 04:26 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 04:14 MichaelEU wrote:
Nobody is better off watching F/SN. Nobody.

FMA is the best gateway anime I know of. It's varied and good.


I will go and commit the ultimate sin:

FMA the original. Brotherhood is the inferior version.

How...? FMA the original was better early on, but after Lab 5 it went downhill. Not to mention the ending was retarded. On the other hand, after Lab 5 in Brotherhood, it only got better, and that early part was only like 10 or so out of like 60.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Delwack
Profile Joined December 2011
123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 19:42:01
February 23 2012 19:35 GMT
#37622
On February 23 2012 21:58 ZaphoD[42] wrote:
Hey guys, its yet another annoying anime noob.
Since I have absolutely 0 experience with anime hopefully you guys can help me out a bit. Fear not i won't ask for any recommendations, because i got a lot of that while skimming through this thread, however almost all of the titles i encountered, do (according to wikipedia^^) exist in form of a manga as well as anime.

Personally i would probably prefer reading a manga (i found mirai nikki in this thread and i thank you for that gem guys), but most of you guys seem to rather watch an anime (hence the thread title i guess). So what do you think is the better choice and why?

Some examples of titles i found and might consider (a selection based solely on their number of appereances in this thread, i have no clue what they are about^^):

Steins;gate
clannad
fate/zero
madoka

So my question is: manga or anime? (if thats a stupid question you just can't hear anymore, which I could imagine, I appologize^^)

Um yeah, those recommendations... for someone with zero anime experience... no. (except maybe Clannad or Fate/Zero)

Full Metal Achemist: Brotherhood (FMA:B) is probably the best gateway anime. I'd follow that up with other Shounen works that aren't too heavy, like Ao no Exorcist (blue exorcist), Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Outlaw Star, or Macross Frontier. If you want longer series, probably start out with the standard stuff, Naruto, Bleach or Dragon Ball Z Kai.

The issues I have with the ones people recommend in your list:
Steins;Gate is too... otaku reference heavy. It's a great show (one of the best I've ever seen, actually the best show I've ever seen) in terms of character development, plot, pacing and overall execution, but if you don't know otaku culture, @ch, comiket, and some of the other anime conventions it makes fun of or parodies, you can miss out on a lot of the humor, ironies, references and links that the series establishes.

Madoka is a deconstruction of a genre. Generally deconstructions are not a good place to start.

Clannad is not bad as a gateway anime, it's certainly a different breed if action-oriented shows put you off, and you are looking for more of a romance/comedy/drama.

Fate/Zero is a prequel, and assumes that you have some knowledge from the visual novel it is based off of (or at least the anime that aired). Not having that knowledge takes a bit away from it, but I've judged that is it by and far good enough to stand on it's own. Be aware they won't explain a lot of the systems at work, since you are expected to have prior knowledge, but it's still good fun, and very well written and paced.

Also to note, of those, Steins;gate and Clannad were originally Visual Novels (VNs), Fate/Zero was a novel (well light novel technically) and Madoka an anime-original show. None of them were 'based' on manga, although each has probably been adapted to manga at some point and time.

My recommendation is always to go with the medium you are most comfortable with, or enjoy the most. Each medium has it's advantages and disadvantages. Manga is easier to digest, and can be done in quick sessions. Anime can take advantage of pacing, integrating music, and actual animation in action scenes, which can bring a work to life. Novels tend to provide better character perspective, as you get more than just dialog as you do in anime, and dialog and thought bubbles as you do in manga.

Each is different and unique, and provides a unique perspective. Certain techniques are better executed in particular mediums, and do not translate well. If someone is attempting to follow the 'letter' of a work, then poor executions that do not (or perhaps due to difference in medium, cannot) convey the same feelings and reactions in their viewers can cause issues. This is why people generally say it is best to view the original work, but I've found that it really more depends on how good a particular team is at adapting the working to the medium. All that said, I again encourage you to simply use the medium you are the most comfortable with. For me, that is anime, followed by novels, then lastly by manga.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 23 2012 19:38 GMT
#37623
On February 24 2012 03:12 MichaelEU wrote:
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4120139.html

I only caught the OVAs and random manga volumes.

Not sure if want.

English: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/22/new-yomiko-from-new-read-or-die-manga-rod-rehabilitation-previewed


yeaaa,, dont think I want either. Seems more of a service ploy. What was wrong with the cutesy airhead ? It works just fine. Seems like a bad attempt at milking it at first glance.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 19:43:31
February 23 2012 19:40 GMT
#37624
I just watched the Steins;Gate extra episode and:
+ Show Spoiler +
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH KURISU MOE
The writing and pacing for the episode is perfect as always, and the flashbacks flow extremely well compared to other shows that have run an episode of this type. But seriously, dat Kurisu. Only tsundere character I've seen in a long time that hasn't made me close the video. Also dat ending cutoff, they are so troll :<


Also if you get subs, Commie went gg with their translations lol. They aren't off but seriously, だめだこいつ・・・早くなんとかしないと -> 'Epic Fail. Saged, reported, called the cops' ಠ_ಠ
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#37625
On February 24 2012 04:38 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 03:12 MichaelEU wrote:
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4120139.html

I only caught the OVAs and random manga volumes.

Not sure if want.

English: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/22/new-yomiko-from-new-read-or-die-manga-rod-rehabilitation-previewed


yeaaa,, dont think I want either. Seems more of a service ploy. What was wrong with the cutesy airhead ? It works just fine. Seems like a bad attempt at milking it at first glance.

IDK who that white haired chick is, but she is hot. If she is a redesign of that black haired girl also pictured there, I'd call it an improvement.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#37626
New Dynasty scans up date some pretty sweet yuri
http://dynasty-scans.com/reader/chapters/forever_girls#1
Girl X Ghost hehe.... I guess what works works.
It's pretty awesome... yuri that is... but I wish most yuri weren't so angst....
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 19:52:31
February 23 2012 19:42 GMT
#37627
On February 24 2012 04:14 MichaelEU wrote:
Nobody is better off watching F/SN. Nobody.

FMA is the best gateway anime I know of. It's varied and good.

Well yeah but this is someone who has zero anime experience. He has nothing to compare it to so he won't realize how bad it is and the time investment is a lot less than the VN. I mean, the whole point is just to get maximum enjoyment out of F/Z.

S;G OVA was really good. Felt awesome recognizing Staples Center in LA Kurisu too good as usual.
@Taku: LOL yeah I kept thinking I had gg subs. Tsundere-> "hot and cold"

@Delwack: just wanted to note that nobody actually recommended him those titles. he just chose them himself cause we mentioned them a lot in here.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 23 2012 19:45 GMT
#37628
today is thursday! which means we get the conclusion of Kaoru arc in Amagami SS+ can't wait for the release.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Delwack
Profile Joined December 2011
123 Posts
February 23 2012 19:47 GMT
#37629
I saw the S;G ova this morning right after GSL right before leaving for work.

It was good, although I think we all suspected (and knew) what was going to happen, it's good to have closure. All the little references to just about everything that they built up during the anime was hilarious too, with + Show Spoiler +
everyone Cosplaying as promised, finally meeting Suzuha's mother, exploiting the perfect mesh of all the timelines.
Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
February 23 2012 19:55 GMT
#37630
I also really enjoyed the S;G OVA, especially since it stayed away from everything I hated from this damn story (time travel).

Was funny from beginning to the end.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 20:07:43
February 23 2012 20:03 GMT
#37631
On February 24 2012 04:41 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 04:38 Rebs wrote:
On February 24 2012 03:12 MichaelEU wrote:
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4120139.html

I only caught the OVAs and random manga volumes.

Not sure if want.

English: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/22/new-yomiko-from-new-read-or-die-manga-rod-rehabilitation-previewed


yeaaa,, dont think I want either. Seems more of a service ploy. What was wrong with the cutesy airhead ? It works just fine. Seems like a bad attempt at milking it at first glance.

IDK who that white haired chick is, but she is hot. If she is a redesign of that black haired girl also pictured there, I'd call it an improvement.


changes the nuances of the show is all. Im not saying it wont be good. Just not sure if itll appeal to the reasons the original was nice to me anyway. Plenty of shows with hot chicks.

edit: After a second glance its practically a new show and a new character with the same name for the most part, total reboot will probably check it out.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#37632
HOLY SHIT REDLINE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME

User was warned for this post
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 23 2012 20:13 GMT
#37633
FUCKING YES LOL
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 23 2012 20:14 GMT
#37634
On February 24 2012 05:03 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 04:41 Sentenal wrote:
On February 24 2012 04:38 Rebs wrote:
On February 24 2012 03:12 MichaelEU wrote:
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4120139.html

I only caught the OVAs and random manga volumes.

Not sure if want.

English: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/02/22/new-yomiko-from-new-read-or-die-manga-rod-rehabilitation-previewed


yeaaa,, dont think I want either. Seems more of a service ploy. What was wrong with the cutesy airhead ? It works just fine. Seems like a bad attempt at milking it at first glance.

IDK who that white haired chick is, but she is hot. If she is a redesign of that black haired girl also pictured there, I'd call it an improvement.


changes the nuances of the show is all. Im not saying it wont be good. Just not sure if itll appeal to the reasons the original was nice to me anyway. Plenty of shows with hot chicks.

edit: After a second glance its practically a new show and a new character with the same name for the most part, total reboot will probably check it out.

Plenty of shows with hot chicks, true. But I have a thing for blonde and white haired chicks. And while there are plenty of both those types in anime, there aren't very many hot white haired chicks with glasses in the shows I've watched. So I approve of the design.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 23 2012 20:25 GMT
#37635
At first I wasnt sure what you were talking about MicaelEU, but now I figured it out.

My bad =(

+ Show Spoiler [gommeeee] +
[image loading]
Skol
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 20:26:43
February 23 2012 20:26 GMT
#37636
Watched S;G OVA.

It was amusing and was nice to see some fun things they joked about in the series previously. Never liked Kurisu though so it wasn't anything amagawdniiiiiice but I can see why everyone else thought it was awesome.
#freeshauni
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#37637
On February 24 2012 05:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
At first I wasnt sure what you were talking about MicaelEU, but now I figured it out.

My bad =(

+ Show Spoiler [gommeeee] +
[image loading]

Is Ika Musume an example of a series that you think looks better than stuff from 10-20 years ago?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 23 2012 20:49 GMT
#37638
On February 24 2012 05:47 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 05:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
At first I wasnt sure what you were talking about MicaelEU, but now I figured it out.

My bad =(

+ Show Spoiler [gommeeee] +
[image loading]

Is Ika Musume an example of a series that you think looks better than stuff from 10-20 years ago?


Lol, im referring to him posting the 2012 poster before me.
Skol
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
February 23 2012 20:50 GMT
#37639
On February 24 2012 05:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 05:47 Sentenal wrote:
On February 24 2012 05:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
At first I wasnt sure what you were talking about MicaelEU, but now I figured it out.

My bad =(

+ Show Spoiler [gommeeee] +
[image loading]

Is Ika Musume an example of a series that you think looks better than stuff from 10-20 years ago?


Lol, im referring to him posting the 2012 poster before me.

Yeah, I know, but I'm simply curious since you posted an Ika Musume picture, which implies you have watched the show and liked it, right?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
February 23 2012 20:54 GMT
#37640
On February 24 2012 05:50 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 05:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
On February 24 2012 05:47 Sentenal wrote:
On February 24 2012 05:25 Emnjay808 wrote:
At first I wasnt sure what you were talking about MicaelEU, but now I figured it out.

My bad =(

+ Show Spoiler [gommeeee] +
[image loading]

Is Ika Musume an example of a series that you think looks better than stuff from 10-20 years ago?


Lol, im referring to him posting the 2012 poster before me.

Yeah, I know, but I'm simply curious since you posted an Ika Musume picture, which implies you have watched the show and liked it, right?


I--uh--you're kidding me right? Thats like one of my most favorite animes of all time.
Skol
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