EPTOn December 30 2013 01:50 Lylat wrote:
Enel is weak and overrated
Enel is weak and overrated
No way man, crocodile is clearly stronger though still not shichibukai level
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
No way man, crocodile is clearly stronger though still not shichibukai level | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On December 29 2013 22:24 Incognoto wrote: BAH, give a poor guy a break, what with amfug (is that's how it spelled?) posting in this thread it's been hard to distinguish lard from pork (French expression). Jesus. If you are gonna be romanian, at least go full romanian and be unapologetic as fuck. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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goody153
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On December 30 2013 01:50 Lylat wrote: Enel is weak and overrated To be fair he has technically one of the most powerful lugia DF in the series. If you think about it it might be on par with Akainu/Kizaru/kuzan. Although his DF wont compensate for his skill since those 3 are quite broken in combat + they have high mastery over haki. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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Mensol
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Enel is the strongest. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2546 Posts
Stop. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
The others are pretty much the same "can create and turn into big blob of something elementary, just with different textures and colour palettes; that ultimately just makes them a bigger target for CoA users". Well i guess Akainu can also do one hell of a falcon punch. Some Logias also make others look really pointless by comparison: Take the Gas Gas fruit for example. Its basicly a Smoke Smoke fruit, laced with some of magellans poison, that can also petrify people kinfs like kuzans ice fruit does. Why just be smoke when you can be deadly gas? same form of matter, sort of, except the latter is far more deadly. You could kinda make the same argument about Ice>Snow, Light>Lightning and ofc Magma>Fire i guess. | ||
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goody153
44236 Posts
On December 30 2013 04:28 sc2holar wrote: to be fair logia fruits have kinda lost their magic, unless oda can come up with something really creative. Most of them really dont differ that much in terms of versatility (except for being favored in certain terrain/climate areas). Well, Kizaru and Enel can move really fast, so i guess thats something extra; Teach can temporarly negate DFs, yeah thats unique aswell; Kuzan can buypass the swimming problem, probably handy. The others are pretty much the same "can create and turn into big blob of something elementary, just with different textures and colour palettes; that ultimately just makes them a bigger target for CoA users". Well i guess Akainu can also do one hell of a falcon punch. Some Logias also make others look really pointless by comparison: Take the Gas Gas fruit for example. Its basicly a Smoke Smoke fruit, laced with some of magellans poison, that can also petrify people kinfs like kuzans ice fruit does. Why just be smoke when you can be deadly gas? same form of matter, sort of, except the latter is far more deadly. You could kinda make the same argument about Ice>Snow, Light>Lightning and ofc Magma>Fire i guess. they lost their magic because the Straw Hat Crew got stronger to the point that having a lugia seems pointless when you are facing luffy/zoro/sanji .. And a lot of people in the new world got Haki so its kinda hard for lugia users to be effective. But normally lugia users like kuzan and akainu overpowers opponents so fast with just their DF. Remember what happened when kuzan faced robin's-giant-friend-with-a-weird-laugh-which-turns-to-be-an-admiral-when-she-was-still-a-kid. It was one sided massacre by kuzan just mainly because of DF. | ||
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shark.
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On December 30 2013 04:28 sc2holar wrote: to be fair logia fruits have kinda lost their magic, unless oda can come up with something really creative. Most of them really dont differ that much in terms of versatility (except for being favored in certain terrain/climate areas). Well, Kizaru and Enel can move really fast, so i guess thats something extra; Teach can temporarly negate DFs, yeah thats unique aswell; Kuzan can buypass the swimming problem, probably handy. The others are pretty much the same "can create and turn into big blob of something elementary, just with different textures and colour palettes; that ultimately just makes them a bigger target for CoA users". Well i guess Akainu can also do one hell of a falcon punch. Some Logias also make others look really pointless by comparison: Take the Gas Gas fruit for example. Its basicly a Smoke Smoke fruit, laced with some of magellans poison, that can also petrify people kinfs like kuzans ice fruit does. Why just be smoke when you can be deadly gas? same form of matter, sort of, except the latter is far more deadly. You could kinda make the same argument about Ice>Snow, Light>Lightning and ofc Magma>Fire i guess. This is pretty much my thoughts aswell. To be honest i would even argue that some paramecia fruits might be the strongest post-haki. Fruits such as DFs and Laws can be utilized in a ton of different ways, where as Smokers fruit for instance makes little difference when you are no longer immune to damage. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On December 30 2013 04:48 goody153 wrote: they lost their magic because the Straw Hat Crew got stronger to the point that having a lugia seems pointless when you are facing luffy/zoro/sanji .. And a lot of people in the new world got Haki so its kinda hard for lugia users to be effective. But normally lugia users like kuzan and akainu overpowers opponents so fast with just their DF. Remember what happened when kuzan faced robin's-giant-friend-with-a-weird-laugh-which-turns-to-be-an-admiral-when-she-was-still-a-kid. It was one sided massacre by kuzan just mainly because of DF. You make good points sir but remember that DD was able to shake of Kuzans ice case all by himself. And Kuzan and Saul were both vice admirals back then IIRC. Also we have seen that DD can combine his strings with haki to hurt smoker so it appears logical that he could have really cut off crocodiles head back then with haki if he really wanted, but he wasnt really serious during the war. But yeah, Not counting BB i would rate Kizaru (unbeatable speed wich offers great synergy with haki) Kuzan (can bypass the seawater weakness and has amazing crowd control) and Akainu (Sheer destructive power, you just dont want to touch his magma body) above the rest. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
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shark.
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Serejai
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On December 30 2013 05:07 Serejai wrote: If Pokemon has taught me anything over the years it's that Enel would lose to Crocodile. Thus, Croco D Ile is the strongest woman in One Piece. Sand is rock and ergo not immune nor resistant to lightning | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
The Cavendish thing is still silly. Cavendish was set up to be a rival to Luffy and was the equivalent to a super nova for his generation. He would definitely be the strongest person in fighting strength and will power we've seen be knocked out by conquerors haki. | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On December 30 2013 11:23 Warfie wrote: Speaking of elements.. what would happen if someone ate the mizu mizu fruit This. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On December 30 2013 11:23 Warfie wrote: Speaking of elements.. what would happen if someone ate the mizu mizu fruit I think the Mizu Mizu no Mi is actually Kuzan's fruit, since ice is water. | ||
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