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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 28 2013 00:33 GMT
#11941
That brings up a question. Those guys like Enel and Kizaru, can they move as fast as they can for as long as they want? They could both basically circle the world instantly if they could.
Never Knows Best.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 28 2013 00:46 GMT
#11942
OR THE MOON
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
December 28 2013 03:25 GMT
#11943
On December 28 2013 09:33 Slaughter wrote:
That brings up a question. Those guys like Enel and Kizaru, can they move as fast as they can for as long as they want? They could both basically circle the world instantly if they could.

I thought about it too, and the conclusion I had is they obviously can move as fast as light(ning), but they still have human reflexes, meaning they can be taken by surprise (like Kizaru by Beckman during Marineford for example). For the length, as long as they don't push themselves over their usual cap, I don't see why they should be more tired than normal.
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 06:00:08
December 28 2013 03:48 GMT
#11944
On December 28 2013 04:11 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
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On December 28 2013 03:49 Incognoto wrote:
Crocodile doesn't smile like that. Your theories have been getting too wild ever since Big Mam's ship appeared. Regardless.. :p

I think people from Skypeia weren't especially good at Mantra aka Observation Haki. Enel was because he was good at it and because his devil fruit also allowed him to augment his mantra. Aisa was an exception, only she could talk about hearing voices. The 4 priests could use it but they weren't anything special.

Aisa and Coby but have superior Observation Haki for some reason, it would be interesting to hear more about it.







By the way, can I propose a weird ass theory about Hiluluk? I think he had the will of D. I think that I read somewhere that the Will of D can be transferred to someone who isn't a D. Anyway, didn't he smile when he died? Like Ace and Roger (and Luffy?). He didn't fear death. Also Garp, Luffy and Roger all have that super wide smile/grin that Hiluluk kind of has as well. That's why this guy, Meadows, I think he could be a guy with D.

Furthermore, about those Sakura he saw that cured him. Are they the same Sakuras that were in the meet up between Whitebeard and Roger?

I have a feeling we'll hear more about Hiluluk in the future. Idk.

D's do have a tendency to drop like flies, so who knows?
I don't think Metos is Kaido. Metos could be Kaido's agent sent to get the mera mera but that's it. Based off of what we have learned about him, disguising himself as a gladiator and infiltrating the tournament isn't very Kaido like.

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On December 28 2013 04:11 sc2holar wrote:
When it comes to facing death, there are exceptions among D's. Blackbeard was scared shitless and pleaded to whitebeard to not "kill one of his own sons". Crocodile is more of a personal wish than a theory, but to provide a counter argument we dont know for sure that there is a connection between the smiling guy (i assume you refer to meadows?) and the guy who knocked out block D yet. Its a theory that holds some merit, but its not confirmed yet.

Teach wasn't about to die so who knows for sure? Ace was crying his eyes out until the very last second of his life. Maybe if whitebeard actually killed teach then he'd give a smirk right before his death.


Whitebeard learned from Roger what the Will of D was, he says Blackbeard isn't part of the Will of D.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-47876-11/one-piece/chapter-576.html

Which would explain his cowardice when faced with death.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 10:25:01
December 28 2013 09:15 GMT
#11945
Watch Enel's full name turn out to be Monkey D. Enel, Dragon's long lost brother
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 28 2013 10:20 GMT
#11946
ednel

the d is silent
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 28 2013 10:31 GMT
#11947
LOL flamewheel that was really good LOL
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2848 Posts
December 28 2013 11:36 GMT
#11948
and if you spell it all out it's actually edward d nel, the spawn of these two hidden lovers
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Zholistic
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia278 Posts
December 28 2013 11:39 GMT
#11949
My bet is that this meadow guy is really the samurai that Kin'emon and momobooby are looking for. And he did the haki thing.


Another thing. Could luffy + Sabo take out Kaido? Possible.
"Scissors are overpowered. Rock is fine." -Paper
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 12:50:47
December 28 2013 12:32 GMT
#11950
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 28 2013 13:26 GMT
#11951
I still think it's Rebecca using the lightning soldier's technique.
maru lover forever
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
December 28 2013 13:48 GMT
#11952
I think people are really underestimating how strong a yonkou is. I highly doubt someone who could probably smack an admiral around and make DD shit himself is gonna bother with a little tournement to get a fruit. He would probably turn up on a ship kindly request for the fruit and if denied smack the shit out of everyone on the island (and probably the nearest couple for fun).
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 28 2013 16:06 GMT
#11953
On December 28 2013 21:32 bittman wrote:
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.

Luffy and forhead were able to conquerer out there block with ease its entirely possible for chumps like cavendish to get taken out by conquerers haki
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#11954
On December 29 2013 01:06 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 21:32 bittman wrote:
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.

Luffy and forhead were able to conquerer out there block with ease its entirely possible for chumps like cavendish to get taken out by conquerers haki

Cavendish didn't seem to be effected much by the Haki explosion from Block B.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
December 28 2013 22:54 GMT
#11955
block b didnt have haki in it that was the Kings Punch
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:09:19
December 28 2013 23:08 GMT
#11956
My bad, Block C. The one with Luffy. Cavendish didn't have any problems watching that big haki explosion during his fight.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
i am plus
Profile Joined October 2011
United States190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:49:29
December 28 2013 23:49 GMT
#11957
i dont think it even reached that far cause it didnt look like the audience was passing out either + he can control it to just attack one person not everyone in the area
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 29 2013 02:17 GMT
#11958
On December 29 2013 01:06 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 21:32 bittman wrote:
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.

Luffy and forhead were able to conquerer out there block with ease its entirely possible for chumps like cavendish to get taken out by conquerers haki


If Cavendesh is a chump then get ready for all the fights the strawhats get into to be the monster trio staying awake and then everyone else fainting. That'll make for some fun arcs.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 29 2013 04:36 GMT
#11959
On December 29 2013 11:17 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 01:06 Forikorder wrote:
On December 28 2013 21:32 bittman wrote:
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.

Luffy and forhead were able to conquerer out there block with ease its entirely possible for chumps like cavendish to get taken out by conquerers haki


If Cavendesh is a chump then get ready for all the fights the strawhats get into to be the monster trio staying awake and then everyone else fainting. That'll make for some fun arcs.

we havent seen him do anything though and he totally looks like a chump

why dont you think hes a chump?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 05:29:24
December 29 2013 05:21 GMT
#11960
On December 29 2013 13:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 11:17 bittman wrote:
On December 29 2013 01:06 Forikorder wrote:
On December 28 2013 21:32 bittman wrote:
Telling you, it's not haki. If there was a conqueror's haki that could knock out someone like cavendesh, then whitebeard was a chump by comparison.

Most likely it's a super fast attack or some exotic devil fruit power.
1) Super fast attack, probably tires out user or perhaps the user fell over after the attack as a bit of a clumsy thing. I think the samurai guess above is actually pretty good for this...
2) Exotic power. Caeser Clown already demo'd an ability to suffocate a group of people fairly easily. It wouldn't be outside the realm of some devil fruits I'm sure.

Haki or Kaidou is too much for a number of reasons imo.

EDIT: Also on the "Could Luffy+Sabo take out Kaidou?", it's irrelevant. A Yonkou ain't gonna come solo an island. He'd have to be about 3 Whitebeards in power and five Enel's worth of arrogance. And if he was that arrogant there'd be no reason to hide in some mask in the Colosseum for Ace's fruit.

Luffy will have to take Kaidou out someday though. I think Big Mum will still be first on the Yonkou hit list though, despite all the doflamingo stuff here. I don't see this as the Kaidou arc, only the Doflamingo arc. Kaidou needs a build up. Doflamingo has the build up.

Luffy and forhead were able to conquerer out there block with ease its entirely possible for chumps like cavendish to get taken out by conquerers haki


If Cavendesh is a chump then get ready for all the fights the strawhats get into to be the monster trio staying awake and then everyone else fainting. That'll make for some fun arcs.

we havent seen him do anything though and he totally looks like a chump

why dont you think hes a chump?

http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/708/7

What a chump, able to hold up Chinjao's entire build/weight and withstand his headbutt with a single arm with little effort, was also considered the favorite to win D Block, and has a $280M bounty.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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