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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 07 2013 10:05 GMT
#11421
Can we have Law's crew to show up now?!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 07 2013 11:24 GMT
#11422
They're in Zou
maru lover forever
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 07 2013 12:53 GMT
#11423
On December 07 2013 17:45 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 16:23 FractalsOnFire wrote:
On December 07 2013 14:18 Zooper31 wrote:
On December 07 2013 14:15 ElizarTringov wrote:
On December 07 2013 13:44 Forikorder wrote:
On December 07 2013 09:23 Incognoto wrote:
On December 06 2013 10:08 Hyperbola wrote:
On December 06 2013 02:10 Mensol wrote:
All we need is Dragon in this arc <3

Also would be fkn amaaaaaaaazing if Apoo, Kid and Hawkins shows up and takes a fight with big mom <3 strawhats and heart pirates, kids crew, hawkins's cew and apoo's vs big mom woooooooo

Too much. My poor heart can't handle that much.


I really think that the Kid alliance is going after Shanks and that they'll succeed in taking him down at the same time Luffy/Law take down their Yonko. Something along those lines.

However, since we're expecting something like that to happen it won't happen and Oda will pull off some crazy shit that we didn't expect at all. Etc

Kaidou and Big mam are the 2 most sensible targets theyd be the most widespread and most active in hunting down non-afiliated pirates

Blackbeard next in line since he has whitebeards territory which is bound to be huge but probably cant police it too well


Shanks i cant really see bothering people too too much so it wouldnt make as much sense to go after him


Are you under the impression that Shanks is some nice guy? He's a pirate and Yonko at that, what do you think he does?


I think we all assume he's the same kind of person Luffy is. You wouldn't call Luffy evil, he's like the nicest guy ever. He's not actively out there doing shady stuff and messing with people, we hope.


This is one of the most interesting things about One Piece to me, the fact that good and evil aren't as black and white as most stories tend to be. You have good pirates and bad pirates, good and bad marines. Shades of gray to differing degrees.


That's exactly it. Smoker and Tashigi are easily considered good guys even though they're enemies of the Straw Hats. They're marines that actively look to protect people, this can also be applied to Fujitora, Garp hell even Sengoku seemed like a good guy.

Bad pirates? You've got plently of those. That's the beauty of one piece. ^^


Completely agree. Even Aokiji during his time as Admiral was a good guy who even went as far as letting the crew and Robin go. That for me is one of the reasons why One Piece is so unpredictable. You have entire organizations, crews, etc. that stand for something but then you have a ton of different characters in it, all of whom have their own views and personality but in the end strive for that overall same goal. Not only is it more interesting and diverse that way but Oda can pull his magic tricks through these personalities, which he does quite a lot.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
December 07 2013 13:57 GMT
#11424
Kidd doesn't have shit on shanks.. for fuck sake that's like saying Luffy could take on WB and his crew!

Shanks has 10 times less people then WB and was considered his equal... Ben Beckham would be enought for kidd's crew
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sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 16:44:16
December 07 2013 16:29 GMT
#11425
Shanks also has no qualms about killing, though we haven't seen much of it (because Shanks rarely appear). Killing is in general a thing purely good guys doesn't do.

But as others have said, One Piece is a gray world. Apart from purely evil and non-redeemable people (rare in effect, even dofla has some good qualities) and innocent and good-hearted people (which are really rare too, from what we've seen when it comes to racism etc), there really isn't much black and white.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8916 Posts
December 07 2013 17:40 GMT
#11426
On December 07 2013 22:57 shell wrote:
Kidd doesn't have shit on shanks.. for fuck sake that's like saying Luffy could take on WB and his crew!

Shanks has 10 times less people then WB and was considered his equal... Ben Beckham would be enought for kidd's crew

lol
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
December 07 2013 20:53 GMT
#11427
I think it's david beckham and benn beckman.

And for all we know Luffy's crew is the only one that tries its best not to kill people. We haven't seen enough of other "good guys" yet to be sure.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 07 2013 21:00 GMT
#11428
meh i'm sure they've all killed some small fry here and there
maru lover forever
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
December 07 2013 21:05 GMT
#11429
Zoro is more than willing to kill people if needed lol. Luffy's childish immaturity is what stops the straw hats from killing people and keeps the manga light hearted to read. If the manga was about nearly any other character in the series then there would of been deaths left and right from the beginning.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
December 07 2013 22:10 GMT
#11430
Yes, but Zoro is also by far the most 'evil' person on the Strawhat crew.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18721 Posts
December 07 2013 22:13 GMT
#11431
Actually Robin is way more cruel than Zorro.

Zorro often uses the flat sides of his blade when fighting fodder
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 23:52:44
December 07 2013 23:52 GMT
#11432
Do you have something concrete to back up that statement? Robin only appears to be 'cruel' due to her apparent emotional neutrality. Her backbreaking doesn't seem to be of the lethal sort (compare to cutting people up), and more akin to knocking people unconscious.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#11433
On December 08 2013 08:52 sumsaR wrote:
Do you have something concrete to back up that statement? Robin only appears to be 'cruel' due to her apparent emotional neutrality. Her backbreaking doesn't seem to be of the lethal sort (compare to cutting people up), and more akin to knocking people unconscious.


That's just what se wants you to believe!
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-08 03:21:59
December 08 2013 03:20 GMT
#11434
Oh this weeks episode was really good. The filler was a fight between Smoker and Donflamingo something everybody would want to see, but the manga skipped to save time.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
December 08 2013 03:51 GMT
#11435
On December 08 2013 12:20 BlackMagister wrote:
Oh this weeks episode was really good. The filler was a fight between Smoker and Donflamingo something everybody would want to see, but the manga skipped to save time.


You almost got me worried that they skipped the entire fight in the anime and I was gonna be pissed. Had to read that twice to make sure lol.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 08 2013 04:57 GMT
#11436
its not that Luffy and co try not to kill its jsut that there opponents manage to survive more then tehy try not to kill
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
December 08 2013 05:16 GMT
#11437
On December 08 2013 05:53 Mataza wrote:
I think it's david beckham and benn beckman.

And for all we know Luffy's crew is the only one that tries its best not to kill people. We haven't seen enough of other "good guys" yet to be sure.

On the topic of pirate crews that try not to kill people: I'm catching up with the anime right now after reading the manga about 3 times now. Not sure if he says this in the manga too, but in the anime Fisher Tiger specifically ordered his crew to avoid killing. Of course individuals take that order how they will, but the sentiment is not unheard of in One Piece.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 08 2013 08:14 GMT
#11438
Guys, there is no question that Robin is the cruelest Straw-Hat. And its not even close. Remember what she did to Franky? It hurts to even remember that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
December 08 2013 08:19 GMT
#11439
I suppose though I kind of think of pre enes lobby Robin and post enes lobby Robin as almost two different people.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 08 2013 08:28 GMT
#11440
On December 08 2013 17:19 kirsed wrote:
I suppose though I kind of think of pre enes lobby Robin and post enes lobby Robin as almost two different people.


pre enies lobby robin and post one aren't that difference. there's definitely a difference, for example calling the different crew members mr/ms "insert position here". however remember that what happened with enies lobby is the result of robin not wanting any harm to come to the straw hats.

she's not that cruel though in alabasta she was definitely cynical. remember though that without her luffy would have died twice and she played a crucial role in defeating crocodile as well (also dying to not reveal pluton)
maru lover forever
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