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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 03:40:58
October 04 2013 03:40 GMT
#10481
You are really bad at language, aren't you?


unfortunately yes

You can describe a rock as a solid, because that's what it is.


technically you can but have you ever heard someone say "thats a solid/liquid" in response to "whats that?"

You claimed "gas is an actual thing solid is not ". You didn't say it was both.


i never said it wasnt both
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 04 2013 03:42 GMT
#10482
Oda never said Rokushiki wasn't Haki!!!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 06:22:25
October 04 2013 06:21 GMT
#10483
Tbh Tekkai for example could just be a form of armament haki
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 04 2013 08:38 GMT
#10484
On October 04 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Tbh Tekkai for example could just be a form of armament haki

Or a breathing/muscle technique as it was said in the manga, that's unrelated to haki whatsoever.

You know, could be. But Oda has been wrong before
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 04 2013 08:46 GMT
#10485
Rokushiki isn't Haki. It's a set of strong techniques but I don't think that they have Haki imbued in them.
maru lover forever
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 09:01:47
October 04 2013 08:59 GMT
#10486
I always thought Rokushiki was a preforming haki style. The connections are just to strong.

Kamie: weak Observation Haki
Tekkai/Shigan: weak Armament Haki
Rankyuka: these energy-haki-beams the sword fighters always shoot^^

Only with Geppou und Soru I don´t know where to put them, but Luffy learned Soru just by watching Bruno fight. And don´t forget about "Rokuougan", which was used by Lucci when he grabbed Luffy with his Tail, shortly before Luffy won. So there are actually 7 techniques, since it´s called "The Secret F6 Technique"?

Sorry for using only the japanese words, I have no idea how they are spelled in english.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
October 04 2013 09:00 GMT
#10487
On October 04 2013 12:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
You can't melt an island. Even if you could melt an island the amount of magma required to do so would eventually hardend and turn into a new island.


but its magic magma that would jsut disapear after its no longer important to the plot

Do you know why Punk Hazard is still blazing hot? Because the magma is still there.

Also it has been stated that Rokushiki is a form of material arts that is used among Marines.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 04 2013 09:01 GMT
#10488
On October 04 2013 17:38 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Tbh Tekkai for example could just be a form of armament haki

Or a breathing/muscle technique as it was said in the manga, that's unrelated to haki whatsoever.

You know, could be. But Oda has been wrong before


Yeah I'm not seriously suggesting that it is. I just see a possibility that they're related. Like say if you breathe to focus and stuff. Whatever. My most important OP theory is still Zoro getting Tashigi pregnant
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
October 04 2013 09:04 GMT
#10489
On October 04 2013 18:01 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 17:38 Mataza wrote:
On October 04 2013 15:21 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Tbh Tekkai for example could just be a form of armament haki

Or a breathing/muscle technique as it was said in the manga, that's unrelated to haki whatsoever.

You know, could be. But Oda has been wrong before


Yeah I'm not seriously suggesting that it is. I just see a possibility that they're related. Like say if you breathe to focus and stuff. Whatever. My most important OP theory is still Zoro getting Tashigi pregnant


Zoros and Tashigis relationship is way more important for me then finding OP XD
monchi | IdrA | Flash
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
October 04 2013 10:17 GMT
#10490
Zoro getting laid before Sanji does? yes please
Joefish
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany314 Posts
October 04 2013 12:24 GMT
#10491
On October 04 2013 19:17 []Phase[] wrote:
Zoro getting laid before Sanji does? yes please

Sanji had enough fun with Ivankov and his crew already
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
October 04 2013 12:37 GMT
#10492
On October 04 2013 12:40 Forikorder wrote:

technically you can but have you ever heard someone say "thats a solid/liquid" in response to "whats that?"


actually if someone asks whats in that balloon no one will say gas, maybe will say "air"

and yes people will say "thats some sort of liquid/fluid in that glass" if it isnt obvious whats in it though

but i never heard someone say thats a solid


one question on my mind is that why when law is defeated his ability isnt "stopped", like van decker, when he got stabbed, noah started fallin or the art woman, when she got defeated the people stopped becomin art.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 04 2013 13:38 GMT
#10493
On October 04 2013 21:37 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 12:40 Forikorder wrote:

technically you can but have you ever heard someone say "thats a solid/liquid" in response to "whats that?"


actually if someone asks whats in that balloon no one will say gas, maybe will say "air"

and yes people will say "thats some sort of liquid/fluid in that glass" if it isnt obvious whats in it though

but i never heard someone say thats a solid


one question on my mind is that why when law is defeated his ability isnt "stopped", like van decker, when he got stabbed, noah started fallin or the art woman, when she got defeated the people stopped becomin art.

probably because for Law he uses his ability to cut something then stops using the ability so the effect persists
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 15:35:32
October 04 2013 15:34 GMT
#10494
On October 04 2013 05:48 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:41 Yurie wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:49 agahamsorr0w wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:15 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 02:15 Forikorder wrote:
On October 04 2013 01:24 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 01:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:50 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:41 Forikorder wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:32 Incognoto wrote:
.. Not really. maybe Whitebeard but that's because he was the world's strongest man.

Look at the fight between Aokiji and Akainu. It completely transformed the island, that's for sure. But Punk Hazard is still there on the map. It even took on Caesar's weapons of mass destruction.

Unlike the Maxim, which would probably have actually knocked down Skyepia. For all I care Enel is just some weakling who ate a Logia fruit. I don't care about him. But that weakling, armed with his weapon, obtained the power to destroy an island.

That's my point. ^^

Um.. don't over think this and don't turn this into a mindless debate. this is all just my 2 euro cents

they literally split the island in 2, if they really wanted to they could have destroyed the island, Aokiji could have just melted it if he wanted to since hed made of magma

and he can only destroy the sky islands


What is your reasoning behind this statement?

they could ahve jsut reduced it to rubble if they can split it in 2 there strong enough to smash whats left

wouldnt be very elegant but they could have literally taken punk hazard off the map


I am not sure if you are trolling or just stupid. Neither of their powers would be fit to destroy land - quite the contrary actually. Nothing suggests that splitting the island in two was intended, but rather it would appear to be a side effect of their battle.

you think magma is unfit to destroy an island? he could jsut melt it if he wants to

and if they did it by accident that only shows what they could do on purpose


You can't melt an island. Even if you could melt an island the amount of magma required to do so would eventually hardend and turn into a new island.

On October 04 2013 04:08 flamewheel wrote:
Not really a valid assumption to make because one, the intent of the fight isn't to destroy the island (blah blah look at these side effects) and two, you don't know if it took ten days for the island to become what it is now. Just because the fight lasted ten days doesn't mean you can logically make that inference.


There is nothing that suggests that either Aokiji or Akainu would be able to destroy an island. White- and/or Blackbeard might be able to because of the Gura Gura fruit. If Aokiji or Akainu would be able to destroy an island it is safe to say that everyone at atleast their power level would be able to destroy an island, since neither of their fruits would be fit to do so.


yeah dont see how they would be able to destroy islands with ice and magma. for one magma hardens so the magmaguy just creates new islands while ice... I dont think ice can make anything explode.


An old method of mining is to heat stone up using fire and the pouring water on it. Making it break up.

Using an ice ability it would theoretically be possible to lower the temperature fast enough to shatter the stones making up the island. Worst case you repeat it after it heats up from the ambient heat again.

Not sure how soil is effected, though I guess you could create very strong winds to scrape it away.

As for reading this, when getting caught up I finally realised I could tilt the screen 90 degrees and not have to scroll or read tiny text any longer. Felt so stupid I hadn't been doing that for years.


If you engulf stone in magma and pour water on it, you will have a bigger stone. In regards to freezing something to shatter it, you have to keep in mind that if you shatter something it does not disappear. It merely turns into smaller pieces.


I thought it was clear. You freeze it quickly creating small pieces. Change weather pattern to blow it away or let the water from ice make it flow away. Shatter too large pieces further. Depending on speed of re-heating you can probably clear away an island within a year.

Might be easier to just make it rain all the time over the island and let erosion handle it. Well within the realm of the ice power or the magma power, though magma brings the risk of creating more mass than you are eroding.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
October 04 2013 16:32 GMT
#10495
On October 05 2013 00:34 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 05:48 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 05:41 Yurie wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:49 agahamsorr0w wrote:
On October 04 2013 04:15 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 02:15 Forikorder wrote:
On October 04 2013 01:24 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 01:01 Forikorder wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:50 Prog455 wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:41 Forikorder wrote:
[quote]
they literally split the island in 2, if they really wanted to they could have destroyed the island, Aokiji could have just melted it if he wanted to since hed made of magma

and he can only destroy the sky islands


What is your reasoning behind this statement?

they could ahve jsut reduced it to rubble if they can split it in 2 there strong enough to smash whats left

wouldnt be very elegant but they could have literally taken punk hazard off the map


I am not sure if you are trolling or just stupid. Neither of their powers would be fit to destroy land - quite the contrary actually. Nothing suggests that splitting the island in two was intended, but rather it would appear to be a side effect of their battle.

you think magma is unfit to destroy an island? he could jsut melt it if he wants to

and if they did it by accident that only shows what they could do on purpose


You can't melt an island. Even if you could melt an island the amount of magma required to do so would eventually hardend and turn into a new island.

On October 04 2013 04:08 flamewheel wrote:
Not really a valid assumption to make because one, the intent of the fight isn't to destroy the island (blah blah look at these side effects) and two, you don't know if it took ten days for the island to become what it is now. Just because the fight lasted ten days doesn't mean you can logically make that inference.


There is nothing that suggests that either Aokiji or Akainu would be able to destroy an island. White- and/or Blackbeard might be able to because of the Gura Gura fruit. If Aokiji or Akainu would be able to destroy an island it is safe to say that everyone at atleast their power level would be able to destroy an island, since neither of their fruits would be fit to do so.


yeah dont see how they would be able to destroy islands with ice and magma. for one magma hardens so the magmaguy just creates new islands while ice... I dont think ice can make anything explode.


An old method of mining is to heat stone up using fire and the pouring water on it. Making it break up.

Using an ice ability it would theoretically be possible to lower the temperature fast enough to shatter the stones making up the island. Worst case you repeat it after it heats up from the ambient heat again.

Not sure how soil is effected, though I guess you could create very strong winds to scrape it away.

As for reading this, when getting caught up I finally realised I could tilt the screen 90 degrees and not have to scroll or read tiny text any longer. Felt so stupid I hadn't been doing that for years.


If you engulf stone in magma and pour water on it, you will have a bigger stone. In regards to freezing something to shatter it, you have to keep in mind that if you shatter something it does not disappear. It merely turns into smaller pieces.


I thought it was clear. You freeze it quickly creating small pieces. Change weather pattern to blow it away or let the water from ice make it flow away. Shatter too large pieces further. Depending on speed of re-heating you can probably clear away an island within a year.

Might be easier to just make it rain all the time over the island and let erosion handle it. Well within the realm of the ice power or the magma power, though magma brings the risk of creating more mass than you are eroding.

I think quite alot of strong characters without df powers can destroy an island if you give them one whole year
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 07 2013 21:31 GMT
#10496
So has anyone else seen the 'spoilers' about + Show Spoiler +
Doflamingo being Sanji's brother.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 07 2013 21:37 GMT
#10497
We don't talk about spoilers around here, especially not wrong/fake spoilers.

Real spoilers are definitely interesting though. Might have an early release tomorrow.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 08 2013 06:39 GMT
#10498
That already sounds fake. + Show Spoiler +
Considering their ages Doflamingo could almost be his father. Brother, just no
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 08 2013 07:04 GMT
#10499
On October 08 2013 15:39 Mataza wrote:
That already sounds fake. + Show Spoiler +
Considering their ages Doflamingo could almost be his father. Brother, just no

the flamingo guy doesn't look that old, how old is he? sanji is 30 something iirc
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 08 2013 07:05 GMT
#10500
flamingo 41
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