On June 09 2012 00:26 Holdinga wrote: Man, I just rewatched Season 1... And it is really painful for me to say that Season 1 is about maybe (Close approximation) ten times better than Season 2... But I'm really glad that it was not the other way around... If Season 1 was the quality of Season 2, I would probably not have been terribly addicted to the TV show...
Honestly Season 1 has no weak, no bad episode. Every episode is fucking epic as hell. The daenarys plotline in season 1 was really interesting, and in season 2 it fucking sucked balls. Not only that...
I sure hope so that the next 300 days waiting are worth it, I hope season 3 is as epic as season 1. I'm not saying season 2 is complete trash, i'm just saying that season 1 is like ten times better. I don't know if you guys agree with me, but most of my RL friends definitely agree with me
Season 1 is it's own self contained little world leading to the huge climaxes at the end (Ned's death and the birth of the dragons). Season 2 is about the fallout from season 1, introducing new characters like Stannis, Melisandre, the Greyjoys, Ygrette, etc., and building up to season 3. Trust me, Book 3 is the best of the series (out of the 5 books that are out). And if there is any book that deserves to be broken up into two seasons, book 3 is the one. The next two seasons will dwarf everything you've seen so far. It will compel you, frustrate you, inspire you, excite you, and enrage you. There will be times where you will want to hurl your TV set against the wall, yet still, you won't be able to wait for the next week's episode. I know shows don't last forever, and a lot of shows get cancelled before their time. Yet, I've been hoping and praying since the first season that the show could last long enough to get to book 3. I sympathize with the people who think season 2 was a bit of a downer compared to season 1, but once you see how the next two seasons unfold, it will all be worth it and more. To put it simply, Book 3 is the "Empire Strikes Back" of this saga.
SOLD!!!
No kidding, HBO needs to hire this guy for Season 3 PR
Just think about what you have to look forward to at the beginning of next season. Jon Snow meeting up with the wildlings. Samwell Tarly out alone amonst the White Walkers. Tywin Lannister's role as the new Hand of the King. How will Tyrion's love for playing the Game of Thrones play out now that he's stripped of power? Peter Baelish (Littlefinger) has been made the new Lord of Harrenhall. What new games will he play now that he's been "legitimized". How do Stannis and Melisandre recover after their loss at the battle of Blackwater? Where is the hound going now that he's quote/unquote off his leash? Who burned down Winterfell and more importantly why? What are the reprocussions of Robb marrying that Volanties girl and breaking his word to Walder Frey? You've got the groups of Arya/Gendry/Hot Pie, Jaime/Brienne, and Bran/Rickon/Hodor/Osha all out in the wilderness in the middle of a war zone. What dangers will each of those groups face on their respective journeys? What's in store for Sansa Stark now that she's still stuck in King's Landing, but no longer has the protection of being bethrothed to Joffrey, meager as that protection was? I could keep going, really I could, but I'm holding back because I don't want to hint at spoilers. All of those questions will be answered in the next two seasons and the answers are absolutely epic.
On June 05 2012 16:56 PredY wrote: white walkers detest all life but they are also intelligent species, so there was a reason for sure. most likely, they saw he was no threat to them, spread the word, leave him for later.. we'll see in s3 for sure
Ahhh yeah, I used to roll with the Starks, now I <3 the Wildlings and White Walkers!
On June 09 2012 00:12 Bash wrote: I got spoiled on a major plot point because one fine gentleman decided to start spamming it upon losing in a game of dota .
oh man..that's the biggest d-baggery someone can commit...damn lol
I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
Lord Stannis and Lord Renly weren't prince, only lords. How is Bran and Rickon then?
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
Robb is King in the north (and lord of Winterfell). Bran and RIckon are his heirs until Robb has kids of his own.
On June 09 2012 00:12 Bash wrote: I got spoiled on a major plot point because one fine gentleman decided to start spamming it upon losing in a game of dota .
oh man..that's the biggest d-baggery someone can commit...damn lol
I was just thinking about spoiling myself just to also do this :p
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
Lord Stannis and Lord Renly weren't prince, only lords. How is Bran and Rickon then?
Stannis and Renly were only Lords because Robert had his heir Joffrey (although we all know the truth xD)
Eddard wasnt King because this was when the 7 kingdoms were still united, but Robb decided to have an independent kingdom of the north for obvious reasons....
And Bran and Rickon are princes of Winterfell because Robb doesnt have any children - there is of course the possibility that Robb never has any children or only girls - then Bran would be King after Robb
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
Lord Stannis and Lord Renly weren't prince, only lords. How is Bran and Rickon then?
Stannis and Renly were only Lords because Robert had his heir Joffrey (although we all know the truth xD)
Eddard wasnt King because this was when the 7 kingdoms were still united, but Robb decided to have an independent kingdom of the north for obvious reasons....
And Bran and Rickon are princes of Winterfell because Robb doesnt have any children - there is of course the possibility that Robb never has any children or only girls - then Bran would be King after Robb
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
Lord Stannis and Lord Renly weren't prince, only lords. How is Bran and Rickon then?
Stannis and Renly were only Lords because Robert had his heir Joffrey (although we all know the truth xD)
Eddard wasnt King because this was when the 7 kingdoms were still united, but Robb decided to have an independent kingdom of the north for obvious reasons....
And Bran and Rickon are princes of Winterfell because Robb doesnt have any children - there is of course the possibility that Robb never has any children or only girls - then Bran would be King after Robb
Bran and Rickon are princes of the North by the same claim that Robb has as the King in the North. They don't stop becoming princes if Robb suddenly has children. Princes are, by definition, non-ruling (over the titular Kingdom), otherwise they would be Kings.
By definition, Lords Stannis and Renly were princes as well, but were probably addressed as Lords because they rule lands in their own rights. Princes Bran and Rickon do not rule over other lands and their only titles are that of prince.
On June 09 2012 19:35 Too_MuchZerg wrote: I was reading some wiki about season 2 cast and I spotted this one:
"Isaac Hempstead-Wright as Prince Brandon Stark" "Art Parkinson as Prince Rickon Stark"
Are they really a prince? I thought Robbs future kids gonna be titled prince and princess not his brothers. I mean Eddard Stark wasn't king right? Bran should be Lord of Winterfell not Prince of Winterfell.
I guess you missed that whole "king in the north" thing.
Lord Stannis and Lord Renly weren't prince, only lords. How is Bran and Rickon then?
Stannis and Renly were only Lords because Robert had his heir Joffrey (although we all know the truth xD)
Eddard wasnt King because this was when the 7 kingdoms were still united, but Robb decided to have an independent kingdom of the north for obvious reasons....
And Bran and Rickon are princes of Winterfell because Robb doesnt have any children - there is of course the possibility that Robb never has any children or only girls - then Bran would be King after Robb
Bran and Rickon are princes of the North by the same claim that Robb has as the King in the North. They don't stop becoming princes if Robb suddenly has children. Princes are, by definition, non-ruling (over the titular Kingdom), otherwise they would be Kings.
By definition, Lords Stannis and Renly were princes as well, but were probably addressed as Lords because they rule lands in their own rights. Princes Bran and Rickon do not rule over other lands and their only titles are that of prince.
The claim that princes are "by definition non-ruling" is different than the claim that non-rulers are by definition princes. You need the latter to support your argument that they are princes, not the former.
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