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Sra
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands75 Posts
June 21 2011 19:39 GMT
#5621
so what i dont get, i didnt read the books or anything.

How come she has dragon blood or something? her father was the mad king right? so did it have something to do with her mother?
dunno
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 21 2011 19:49 GMT
#5622
LOL @ Dragons being evolved from airplanes.
On June 22 2011 02:36 travis wrote:
you know what, just for you overly sensitive whiners I'll get rid of my special name so people can report me. the fact is I'll probably end up banned for saying something like I did but you know what, that's fair, so whatever. I don't really care because jesus christ some of you are like the most sensitive people ever looking for anything to possibly be upset about, and if I get banned for something like that when my intention is actually jest then I don't want to be posting here anyways.

I never actually asked to be unreportable but according to kennigit it has something to do with my colored name so I guess I have to get rid of it.

I can't even tell if this is seorius or not. It sounds serious. :x dw about it, fuck. You cna't be reported: you have superpowers.
With the 200,000 mods we have on this forum, every one of your posts gets read anyways.


But yeah, clearly we've run out of things to talk about LOL.

To the guy above... the sigil of the Targaryens is a dragon. With three heads, I think. I'm not sure why it has three heads when apparantly these dragons only had one head. Isn't a three haded dragon a hydra? (incoming 5 pages)
I think that's the main reason they're called dragons. There also seems to be some resistance to fire which may or may not be related.
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NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:28:58
June 21 2011 19:51 GMT
#5623
On June 22 2011 04:39 Sra wrote:
so what i dont get, i didnt read the books or anything.

How come she has dragon blood or something? her father was the mad king right? so did it have something to do with her mother?


Thing is the Targeryn, Danys blood line. Their house Symbol is the Dragon. The Targeryn took over the Seven kingdom 300 years ago with Something the Conqueror and made the Seven kingdoms into one realm. That Realm is now controlled by the king at King landing.

Before all of the 7 big houses where kings. So before the Starks where Kings, so where the Lannisters, Baretheons, etc.

Now where did the Targeryn come from, that is from Valkery (or close) which is where dragons are from and the people that made Valerian steel like the sword Ice (Ned sword) and the dagger they tried to use to stab Bran and the Sword Jon receives for the Commander, etc.

The blood of Dragons is just because of there ancestral land is where dragon and other spooky magic was. So any "true" Targeryn is heat immune and said to have the blood of Dragons.

There are some family spelling mistakes and locations name erros but that's the gist of it.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44215 Posts
June 21 2011 19:56 GMT
#5624
I barely remember this so I could be wrong but I believe the first Targeryn king came with his two sisters on three dragons. If their sigil is three dragons that could be why. Hopefully this doesn't count as spoilers because it's irrelevant to everything and happened centuries? before the present story.
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Phelski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
June 21 2011 19:56 GMT
#5625
The first king of the seven kingdoms was a targarian who used dragons to defeat all the other houses and to make his kingdom, 300 years before the setting of the show, and his whole family married brother and sister to keep their bloodline pure, hence the blood of dragons. but she is also immune to fire and heat, but that was not common for all targarians as shown by viseries dieing by melted gold on his head
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 03:30:08
June 21 2011 20:04 GMT
#5626
Heres a scale of status in Westeros I found cool and wanted to share.


8 King of Westeros (ruling a whole continent... not joffreys case)

7 Great Khal, Ruler of major Citystate/Freecity, Hand of the King (disputable)
Pre-unification, the kings of 7 kingdoms should would be status 7.

6 Warden of <insert here Direction> (Starks, Lannisters, Aeryn and Tyrell),
Major Khal, Ruler of a citystate, I'd go ahead and put the heads of the Great Houses there, after all, they are heirs of kings.

5 High Septon, Lord of a major house(Tully, Greyjoy, Martell, Frey and Redwyne), Khal

4 Lords of major Bannerhouse ( Boltons), minor Khal, Member of the
small Concil, "average" nobles, who are not especially powerful, but have enough land, etc, to be powerful.

3 Lords of an avarage Bannerhouse ( Umber, Karstark, Clegane), Great maester, (Gregor Clegane, falls here, Petyr Baelish would if he only had his lands), landed knights and the least wealthy and powerful noblemen. Commander Mormont would fall here if he was not in the Night's Watch.

2 Guild Masters, Landless knights, both hedge knights and those directly in service to a noble. Note, though, that you have to be able to afford the cost of living to claim most of the benefits of Status, so many hedge knights will effectively be somewhat lower, Baelish is an example of this.

1 Hedge Knights, Maester, Septons, wealthy small folk.

0 Smallfolk, Men of the Knight Watch

-1 Unfree/poor Smallfolk, Clans of the Moon
-2 Whores,
-3 Slaves
-4 Outlaws, Wildlings

" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Spacely
Profile Joined March 2011
United States108 Posts
June 21 2011 21:05 GMT
#5627
I need to get the DvD of this series
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 21 2011 21:08 GMT
#5628
I don't think I can last until season 2 which is in the spring of 2012! Guess I better get into the books some more now.
Brood War forever!
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
June 21 2011 21:46 GMT
#5629
I will definately get books, awesome first season did not disappoint Thanks TL for giving me the heads up on this.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 21 2011 22:42 GMT
#5630
On June 22 2011 05:04 D10 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Heres a scale of status in Westeros I found cool and wanted to share.


8 King of Westeros (ruling a whole continent... not joffreys case)

7 Great Khal, Ruler of major Citystate/Freecity, Hand of the King (disputable)
Pre-unification, the kings of 7 kingdoms should would be status 7. How you treat the Status of disputed claimants is unclear, but if Stannis gets Status 8, then Robb, Balon Grey, and Euron Greyjoy would be Status 7 while claiming their regional thrones.

6 Warden of <insert here Direction> (Starks, Lannisters, Aeryn and Tyrell),
Major Khal, Ruler of a citystate, I'd go ahead and put the heads of the Great Houses there, after all, they are heirs of kings.

5 High Septon, Lord of a major house(Tully, Greyjoy, Martell, Frey and Redwyne), Khal

4 Lords of major Bannerhouse ( Boltons), minor Khal, Member of the
small Concil, "average" nobles, who are not especially powerful, but have enough land, etc, to be powerful.

3 Lords of an avarage Bannerhouse ( Umber, Karstark, Clegane), Great maester, (Gregor Clegane, falls here, Petyr Baelish would if he only had his lands), landed knights and the least wealthy and powerful noblemen. Commander Mormont would fall here if he was not in the Night's Watch.

2 Guild Masters, Landless knights, both hedge knights and those directly in service to a noble. Note, though, that you have to be able to afford the cost of living to claim most of the benefits of Status, so many hedge knights will effectively be somewhat lower, Baelish is an example of this.

1 Hedge Knights, Maester, Septons, wealthy small folk.

0 Smallfolk, Men of the Knight Watch

-1 Unfree/poor Smallfolk, Clans of the Moon
-2 Whores,
-3 Slaves
-4 Outlaws, Wildlings




You might want to change rank 7 a bit, not all of those characters or their positions have been introduced yet
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19234 Posts
June 21 2011 22:56 GMT
#5631
Is it considered spoilers to mention that the first season was only like...3/5ths of Game of Thrones?

I expect a nice long series from HBO :D
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Carras
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina860 Posts
June 21 2011 23:01 GMT
#5632
i dont fear much for the starks vs the dragons..

we all know dragon type weakness is ICE
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
June 21 2011 23:02 GMT
#5633
On June 22 2011 07:56 tofucake wrote:
Is it considered spoilers to mention that the first season was only like...3/5ths of Game of Thrones?

I expect a nice long series from HBO :D



As someone who's read the book I'm confused by what you mean. Obviously they had to omit certain parts simple due to time constraints, but I thought they hit all of the major points, and ended right around where the book did.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 21 2011 23:34 GMT
#5634
On June 22 2011 08:02 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:56 tofucake wrote:
Is it considered spoilers to mention that the first season was only like...3/5ths of Game of Thrones?

I expect a nice long series from HBO :D



As someone who's read the book I'm confused by what you mean. Obviously they had to omit certain parts simple due to time constraints, but I thought they hit all of the major points, and ended right around where the book did.


Idk I feel like you're right but so is he.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:15:58
June 22 2011 00:09 GMT
#5635
i am now an arya fanboy

i fucking loved arya from the first ep but i never thought she would actually be part of the storyline, just another meaningless child character as seen in so many other shows

FUCK I DON'T WANT TO WAIT

FUCK THIS I'M BUYING THEM BOOKS

edit: holy shit lol i never knew travis was a liquid member (just did some quick searching)
i always wondered why he had a special name
lalala
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 22 2011 00:12 GMT
#5636
I started reading Book 2 yesterday and told myself I would only read a chapter or two and ended up reading 250 pages.

I really hope I can stop after I finish it and wait until Season 2 of the show before I start Book 3 but I have a feeling I'll have finished Book 4 before 5 even comes out.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 22 2011 00:28 GMT
#5637
On June 22 2011 09:09 youngminii wrote:
i am now an arya fanboy

i fucking loved arya from the first ep but i never thought she would actually be part of the storyline, just another meaningless child character as seen in so many other shows

FUCK I DON'T WANT TO WAIT

FUCK THIS I'M BUYING THEM BOOKS

edit: holy shit lol i never knew travis was a liquid member (just did some quick searching)
i always wondered why he had a special name

XD I always thought she was one of the more interesting characters, too. I hope she becomes a girl again, though... I dont like or want her to pretend to be a dude for too long. Doesnt sit well with me.

And travis isnt on Liquid afaik. O_o His name is purple becuase he paid for it to be purple. I'm assuming the icon is the same?
I dont think he has mod powers, either, although he probably should. He's on these forums enough for him to be pretty helpful But not everyoen wants that responsibility I guess.

@GGTemplar: Random qusetion... how long did it take you to read those 250 pages? I'm on like page 128 of GoT, just started reading yesterday. I've spent like 6 hours reading, though. I cant help but feel like I'm a really slow reader; that just seems like so few pages for so much time.
I don't actually have anything to compare it to. XD
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 22 2011 00:33 GMT
#5638
On June 22 2011 08:02 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 07:56 tofucake wrote:
Is it considered spoilers to mention that the first season was only like...3/5ths of Game of Thrones?

I expect a nice long series from HBO :D



As someone who's read the book I'm confused by what you mean. Obviously they had to omit certain parts simple due to time constraints, but I thought they hit all of the major points, and ended right around where the book did.


a lot of the background information, behavior of the wolves, foreshadowing of future events, and character relations that couldn't be shown on TV are missing. Makes a BIG difference if you want to read book 2 after watching the first season. Imagine a TV viewer's surprise when they find out about how the battle with Tyrion really went and why his character acts a certain way in Book 2? If you only saw the TV shows it would throw you off.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:47:56
June 22 2011 00:44 GMT
#5639
+ Show Spoiler +
They tried to get around it a bit with Ros - a lot of people were really confused by the Littlefinger sexposition thing, but it really gets into the psychology of several of the more important male characters. There's no realistic way to have a character voice these types of thoughts aloud without sounding at least a bit ridiculous, though.
Just realized this may count as fairly minor book spoiler.
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 00:52:02
June 22 2011 00:51 GMT
#5640
On June 21 2011 17:38 Magus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 17:36 freelander wrote:
On June 21 2011 17:15 NearlyDead wrote:
Your mention of dragon legs brings up something else I would like to discuss. I feel like baby dragons would be excellent eats. Somewhat like fried frogs but with a zestier, more spicy aftertaste. opinions?


an expensive dish out of my budget

Cue discussion on how much dragon legs would cost?

One dragon egg was said to be worth enough to buy an entire fleet of ships, so in today's money, let's consider the cost of one US Navy carrier battlegroup. The aircraft carrier alone is worth about 12 billion USD, so let's say one carrier battlegroup = $40 billion. This is a distressed worth, since the dragon eggs in ASOIAF were petrified and unable to hatch a dragon. If the egg could actually become a dragon the worth would likely be two, or three times, as much, so I'll peg it at around $100 billion dollars for a dragonling.
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