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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 25 2012 09:30 GMT
#11841
They're the same, Kakashi called it Chidori the first time he ever used it and Gai was the one who said it was also known as Raikiri because he split a lightning bolt with it (rai = lightning, kiri = cut).
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Proof.
Profile Joined August 2011
535 Posts
October 25 2012 10:09 GMT
#11842
On October 25 2012 05:10 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 03:36 aeroblaster wrote:
On October 25 2012 00:53 Dosey wrote:
So did I miss the part where Rin's death was explained? Or did Kishi just glaze over the only real mystery left in Kakashi's history and only had the flashback to show that Obito went Uchiha Tears of Blood Emo Mode, siding with the nearest old pedophile?

It's going to be explained in the next few chapters during the fight between Kakashi and Obito. My guess is that Obito will be stunned learning the real reason Kakashi killed Rin, and then Kakashi will kill Obito in the same fashion he killed Rin, or something like that.


Rin tried to spoil the ending for Come Come/Makeout Paradise.

Haha this post made my day
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
October 25 2012 12:20 GMT
#11843
On October 25 2012 18:02 GhostOwl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 13:42 Gummy wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:15 Slaughter wrote:
Didn't someone say that Kishi said it was going to be a good year for Kakashi a while back? Yea plz don't kill him hes the coolest Naruto character.

I think Naruto is the best Naruto character.


Your opinion is false. Not even valid. Naruto is one of THE worst main characters ever. Okay, maybe not that bad, but still subpar. Only positive things about him are his determination to not give up and his hard work. Otherwise, he lacks everything : (common sense, strategy, cool bloodline, medium leveled jutsus that are useful in combination, stealth, etc)

I'm quite curious...

How in the world can an opinion be false? Is he lying about his own opinion or something?
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
October 25 2012 12:35 GMT
#11844
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 25 2012 15:00 GMT
#11845
On October 25 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 18:02 GhostOwl wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:42 Gummy wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:15 Slaughter wrote:
Didn't someone say that Kishi said it was going to be a good year for Kakashi a while back? Yea plz don't kill him hes the coolest Naruto character.

I think Naruto is the best Naruto character.


Your opinion is false. Not even valid. Naruto is one of THE worst main characters ever. Okay, maybe not that bad, but still subpar. Only positive things about him are his determination to not give up and his hard work. Otherwise, he lacks everything : (common sense, strategy, cool bloodline, medium leveled jutsus that are useful in combination, stealth, etc)

I'm quite curious...

How in the world can an opinion be false? Is he lying about his own opinion or something?

opinions can be false, if someone was of the opinion the holocaust never happened and the moon is made of cheese that opinion would be false
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 16:12:33
October 25 2012 16:10 GMT
#11846
On October 26 2012 00:00 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:
On October 25 2012 18:02 GhostOwl wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:42 Gummy wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:15 Slaughter wrote:
Didn't someone say that Kishi said it was going to be a good year for Kakashi a while back? Yea plz don't kill him hes the coolest Naruto character.

I think Naruto is the best Naruto character.


Your opinion is false. Not even valid. Naruto is one of THE worst main characters ever. Okay, maybe not that bad, but still subpar. Only positive things about him are his determination to not give up and his hard work. Otherwise, he lacks everything : (common sense, strategy, cool bloodline, medium leveled jutsus that are useful in combination, stealth, etc)

I'm quite curious...

How in the world can an opinion be false? Is he lying about his own opinion or something?

opinions can be false, if someone was of the opinion the holocaust never happened and the moon is made of cheese that opinion would be false

Those aren't opinions, those are testable facts. Incorrect facts, but facts nonetheless. Please go look up the definition of opinion.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
October 25 2012 16:41 GMT
#11847
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM


that wiki is so wrong. It is the same skill with a different name, Chidori is the name they give the skill to describe how it sounds, and Raikiri is the name they gave the skill to describe what happened when kakashi did with the skill.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
October 25 2012 21:16 GMT
#11848
On October 26 2012 01:41 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM


that wiki is so wrong. It is the same skill with a different name, Chidori is the name they give the skill to describe how it sounds, and Raikiri is the name they gave the skill to describe what happened when kakashi did with the skill.

According to the databooks (created by Kishi) Rikiri is an S-rank technique, and Childori is an A-rank technique. I am afraid you are wrong, and not the database
tom: "dont you mean TWO g keys???" kwark: "nah, i'll probably just press it twice"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 25 2012 21:48 GMT
#11849
Raikiri is essentially just calling it a different name because you've refined it over years of practice. It would be similar to Naruto, after being able to use the rasengan with 1 hand instead of 2 hands once he gained more control over his chakra, began to call it something different instead of "rasengan." They are technically "different" but they're also essentially the same thing. Not sure if I explained this well enough though. x_x
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 22:00:32
October 25 2012 21:58 GMT
#11850
Wasn't Rin's death already explained? The enemy wanted to capture her for some purpose (obviously not to give her punch and pie) being surrounded and completely fucked Kakashi killed her to avoid capture.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 23:15:40
October 25 2012 23:14 GMT
#11851
On October 26 2012 06:58 NotSorry wrote:
Wasn't Rin's death already explained? The enemy wanted to capture her for some purpose (obviously not to give her punch and pie) being surrounded and completely fucked Kakashi killed her to avoid capture.


That's literally all we know though, that the enemy ninjas wanted her body, alive or dead tbh, just her body. We don't know for what purpose, whether she was a double agent and they wanted information from her mission inside konaha, whether Kakashi and Rin were fighting the ninjas together and Kakashi had to kill her to prevent them from capturing her, was she under genjutsu of some sort and attack Kakashi first and this was just self defense etc.

We still don't know why Kakashi killed her.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 25 2012 23:23 GMT
#11852
On October 26 2012 08:14 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 06:58 NotSorry wrote:
Wasn't Rin's death already explained? The enemy wanted to capture her for some purpose (obviously not to give her punch and pie) being surrounded and completely fucked Kakashi killed her to avoid capture.


That's literally all we know though, that the enemy ninjas wanted her body, alive or dead tbh, just her body. We don't know for what purpose, whether she was a double agent and they wanted information from her mission inside konaha, whether Kakashi and Rin were fighting the ninjas together and Kakashi had to kill her to prevent them from capturing her, was she under genjutsu of some sort and attack Kakashi first and this was just self defense etc.

We still don't know why Kakashi killed her.


She found out the ending for come come paradise and was going to the Mist to have it published before Jaraiya writes it. Kakashi killed her so the ending is not leaked.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 25 2012 23:31 GMT
#11853
Based on his character we can exclude that Kakashi only killed her out of spite. So there had to be a reason like being a double agent or mind control.
Based on the story we can also exclude that Obito doesn't know that particular reason. Because it is absolutely impossible that the solution of the story will be Tobi saying something like "oooh now I see why you had to kill her, silly me, sorry about destroying the world then". So there is a reason for Rin's death and the only people it affects are Kakashi and Obito and they already know it.

So we can safely assume that the cause of Rin's death is not important for the story.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
October 25 2012 23:36 GMT
#11854
On October 26 2012 08:23 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 08:14 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 26 2012 06:58 NotSorry wrote:
Wasn't Rin's death already explained? The enemy wanted to capture her for some purpose (obviously not to give her punch and pie) being surrounded and completely fucked Kakashi killed her to avoid capture.


That's literally all we know though, that the enemy ninjas wanted her body, alive or dead tbh, just her body. We don't know for what purpose, whether she was a double agent and they wanted information from her mission inside konaha, whether Kakashi and Rin were fighting the ninjas together and Kakashi had to kill her to prevent them from capturing her, was she under genjutsu of some sort and attack Kakashi first and this was just self defense etc.

We still don't know why Kakashi killed her.


She found out the ending for come come paradise and was going to the Mist to have it published before Jaraiya writes it. Kakashi killed her so the ending is not leaked.


ahahahaha
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 02:55:32
October 26 2012 02:52 GMT
#11855
On October 26 2012 08:14 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 06:58 NotSorry wrote:
Wasn't Rin's death already explained? The enemy wanted to capture her for some purpose (obviously not to give her punch and pie) being surrounded and completely fucked Kakashi killed her to avoid capture.


That's literally all we know though, that the enemy ninjas wanted her body, alive or dead tbh, just her body. We don't know for what purpose, whether she was a double agent and they wanted information from her mission inside konaha, whether Kakashi and Rin were fighting the ninjas together and Kakashi had to kill her to prevent them from capturing her, was she under genjutsu of some sort and attack Kakashi first and this was just self defense etc.

We still don't know why Kakashi killed her.

they wanted her alive, thats why they said "at least recover her body" its like showing up late to a party and saying "at least tell me you saved some cake"

Based on the story we can also exclude that Obito doesn't know that particular reason. Because it is absolutely impossible that the solution of the story will be Tobi saying something like "oooh now I see why you had to kill her, silly me, sorry about destroying the world then". So there is a reason for Rin's death and the only people it affects are Kakashi and Obito and they already know it.


he might not know the reason, Obito couldnt handle seeing his best friend kill his love so he kinda broke, and tried to figure out a way for all this to make sense in a way that doesnt make Kakashi a team killing fucktard so he followed what Madara said that the world is so rotten shit like this is inevitable, thats why he never revived Rin even if he did the rotten world would jsut kill her again so he waited until he could escape to the dream worl with her in it

the reason doesnt matter to Obito, all he cares about is the world killed Rin so hell "kill" the rotten world and create a dream world for everyone
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
October 26 2012 04:06 GMT
#11856
On October 26 2012 06:16 Mogget wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 01:41 rei wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM


that wiki is so wrong. It is the same skill with a different name, Chidori is the name they give the skill to describe how it sounds, and Raikiri is the name they gave the skill to describe what happened when kakashi did with the skill.

According to the databooks (created by Kishi) Rikiri is an S-rank technique, and Childori is an A-rank technique. I am afraid you are wrong, and not the database

Nope Kishi is wrong, failed at logic, forgot about what he wrote, ect.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
October 26 2012 04:24 GMT
#11857
On October 26 2012 13:06 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 06:16 Mogget wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:41 rei wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM


that wiki is so wrong. It is the same skill with a different name, Chidori is the name they give the skill to describe how it sounds, and Raikiri is the name they gave the skill to describe what happened when kakashi did with the skill.

According to the databooks (created by Kishi) Rikiri is an S-rank technique, and Childori is an A-rank technique. I am afraid you are wrong, and not the database

Nope Kishi is wrong, failed at logic, forgot about what he wrote, ect.


Rofl.

Never seen someone in such denial.
secret - never again
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 26 2012 05:18 GMT
#11858
On October 26 2012 13:24 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2012 13:06 rei wrote:
On October 26 2012 06:16 Mogget wrote:
On October 26 2012 01:41 rei wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM


that wiki is so wrong. It is the same skill with a different name, Chidori is the name they give the skill to describe how it sounds, and Raikiri is the name they gave the skill to describe what happened when kakashi did with the skill.

According to the databooks (created by Kishi) Rikiri is an S-rank technique, and Childori is an A-rank technique. I am afraid you are wrong, and not the database

Nope Kishi is wrong, failed at logic, forgot about what he wrote, ect.


Rofl.

Never seen someone in such denial.

Its stated in the manga that there the same technique

the only way they could be 2 techniques is if Kakashi uses Raikiri and Sasuke uses chidori (dispite both tech being the same)
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 26 2012 10:14 GMT
#11859
On October 25 2012 21:35 Mogget wrote:
First of all, Raikiri and Childori are different:
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Raikiri

Secondly, Inb4 Kakashi and Obito are able to summon Susano's by fighting each other or they work things out, the work together like Obito was planning to when he went to rescue rin/kakashi so they unlock the true power of the sharingan and create a joint susano to fight madara.

BAM

I speak Japanese and although I haven't seen the databook, I'm pretty sure someone just made up them being different. There's no citation on the part where Gai said raikiri was different from chidori and IIRC he said something along the lines of "chidori, also called raikiri, was invented when kakashi split a bolt of lightning with it."

But I could be wrong, I'm just sticking to my initial statement until I get cited data otherwise because I remember specifically hearing that.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 26 2012 10:24 GMT
#11860
I was right:

[image loading]

Until someone provides me with the page in the databook that says they're different I'm going to assume that it's been made up and kept in circulation as an unconfirmed statement that just sounded cool so it kept going. I could be wrong, though. I haven't read the databook.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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