EPT[Manga] Naruto - Page 554
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On September 09 2012 03:52 Slayer91 wrote: Konan, Tsunade, Mizukage, and Kushina all pretty good Kunoichi tbh. Just cause sakura ino and tenten suck you think they all do. Konan really seemed to be a boss. Tobi was actually worried in that battle and would of lost if it wasn't for the big Izangi reveal. Tsunade/Sakura only fell off because that "super strength" thing doesn't age well in this super new tech world so they ended up being mostly known for their healing and regen stuff. Same for Ino and Tenten, just didn't translate over well and since they aren't main characters their skills weren't upgraded/developed. Mizukage seems legit as didn't she pretty much have Sasuke KO'd before he was saved? Kushina you didn't see much of beyond her childhood owning of bullies and her ability to control the 9 tails. Thats the main problem with the series imo. Certain characters skill sets just became obsolete it seems. Its not really true because we basically get to constantly see the top 10-20 Ninjas in the world all the time and that alters our perception. In reality all the "underpowered" characters are probably pretty good in comparison with the rest of the ninja population. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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cekkmt
United States352 Posts
On September 09 2012 12:04 rei wrote: just wondering during tobi vs Konan fight, couldn't tobi simple teleport butt fuck nowhere once she activated that ocean of explosive tags? He has the ability to not only stay in the other dimension but also teleport from place to place right? Well it said in the manga that he has to solidify to teleport so if he did solidify he would have been blown up by the explosive tags. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 09 2012 12:04 rei wrote: just wondering during tobi vs Konan fight, couldn't tobi simple teleport butt fuck nowhere once she activated that ocean of explosive tags? He has the ability to not only stay in the other dimension but also teleport from place to place right? he could ahve teleported away but he would ahve ahd to do it before the trap was activated, the jutsu that dodges attacks is seperate from the one that he uses to teleport its just like how he cant absorb someone while slipping through an attack he does try to teleport away but Konan kept enough pressure to prevent it | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
On September 09 2012 11:01 Slaughter wrote: Konan really seemed to be a boss. Tobi was actually worried in that battle and would of lost if it wasn't for the big Izangi reveal. Tsunade/Sakura only fell off because that "super strength" thing doesn't age well in this super new tech world so they ended up being mostly known for their healing and regen stuff. Same for Ino and Tenten, just didn't translate over well and since they aren't main characters their skills weren't upgraded/developed. Mizukage seems legit as didn't she pretty much have Sasuke KO'd before he was saved? Kushina you didn't see much of beyond her childhood owning of bullies and her ability to control the 9 tails. Thats the main problem with the series imo. Certain characters skill sets just became obsolete it seems. Its not really true because we basically get to constantly see the top 10-20 Ninjas in the world all the time and that alters our perception. In reality all the "underpowered" characters are probably pretty good in comparison with the rest of the ninja population. --Goes through childbirth --Get's 9 tailed ripped out, getting 1 tails ripped out slowly killed gaara.. instantly ripped out still alive and kicking after giving birth --Holds down the 9 nails --Then gets impaled through the stomach --Tells naruto to eat his vegetables if thats not impressive then holy fuck what | ||
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Peden
Denmark27 Posts
On September 09 2012 10:34 Forikorder wrote: use Zetsu to fix Obitos body, pump him full of nature jutsu from the 1st kage to speed up the preogress but causes hm to grow mindfuck him with genjutsus to pump him full of enough info and brainwash him enough to actually pull off the plan BAM done if thats how it is... then what a letdown of a main villain... | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:47 Slayer91 wrote: --Goes through childbirth --Get's 9 tailed ripped out, getting 1 tails ripped out slowly killed gaara.. instantly ripped out still alive and kicking after giving birth --Holds down the 9 nails --Then gets impaled through the stomach --Tells naruto to eat his vegetables if thats not impressive then holy fuck what the speed at which its ripped out doesnt matter, what does matter is Kushina is apart of the special clan and has the special chakra to specially control the 9 tails so managed to barely survive losing her Biju | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 09 2012 23:37 Slayer91 wrote: no its the uzumaki life force dude. The original carrier lived to like 200 years old or something. The chakra that was good for controlling the 9 tailed could mean high chakra levels or it helps control the kyuubi with the chains, but you can see the uzumaki life force in naruto the way he always lasts longer while getting beat way harder than others, that's a combination of kyuubi chakra and senju traits. but point is its not Kushina being badass its her lineage being badass wether shes badass or not well never know because the only things weve heard about her was from her childhood | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
We saw she kicked the shit out of genins when she was in the academy so she had at least some potential. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 09 2012 23:53 Slayer91 wrote: more like she did her lineage proud. You can't say madara wasn't badass or harashima senju wasn't badass because they had the lineage. We saw she kicked the shit out of genins when she was in the academy so she had at least some potential. Madara was a huge step above any Uchiha and did complete badass stuff, Senju same deal Kushina got the 9 tails tore out of her thats literally all we know about her | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Haha what the fuck 2 generations removed and all we've learnt is that the 1st and Madara are the baddest dudes ever. | ||
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
On September 08 2012 02:40 jodogohoo wrote: i sort of want obito to win lol... I actually want this too. Naruto became one of the most annoying guys in the manga that is named after him lol. He gets his powers too fast, has too much luck, isn't as smart as many other people AND (this is the most annoying part) he has unlimited chakra as it seems. There is always such an emphasis on how low they are on chakra and on how much chakra that failed attack costed but there is ALWAYS room for 1000 more clones and rasengans and he can enter that sage-mode again and again... I like Kakashi and Gai though. Yet I want Obito to win just because I hate Naruto that much xD | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
between sage mode, kyuubi, and already insane chakra supply yeah he's got lots of chakra but that's basically his main strength. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On September 10 2012 00:03 TwoToneTerran wrote: Remember when they said the future generations surpass the previous ones? Haha what the fuck 2 generations removed and all we've learnt is that the 1st and Madara are the baddest dudes ever. That idea does not mean a newborn infant will defeat a 100 year old man who fought in war nearly his entire life in combat.... Naruto is 16 fucking years old and is more powerful than any current kage. Like tsunade could never have beaten pain alone, but naruto did. In a story like naruto you need some really powerful enemy so you can show the main character surpassing him. That way you can symbolically show the newer generation surpassing the old. That quote does not mean naruto will burst out of his mothers womb as an infant, be able talk, and say he is now ruler of the universe, causing everyone to instantly die to his power. It's just based off the idea that the newer generation builds off the old so is able to "surpass" them. Like you're using a computer or maybe even a cell phone to read this. Do you know how many thousands of years it took to finally develop the technology capable of making it? It took so many generations slowly building on top of the previous to get to the point we're at now. That's where the whole idea comes from. Mangas like naruto often show such ideas symbolically. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
Madra just pumps up the 1st somewhat to build his own image since he lost, he's currently in super-madara form with rinnegan, and 1st hokage abilities as well as self regeneration so he's FAR stronger than he ever was in life he wouldn't stand a chance against the 5 kage's in his normal state. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 10 2012 02:56 Slayer91 wrote: Also the 3rd hokage had to fight orochimaru at full strength, 1st and 2nd hokage simultaneously well past his prime and held his own, he's supposed to be the strongest of all the hokages. He let minato take over tho so maybe minato was stronger. Madra just pumps up the 1st somewhat to build his own image since he lost, he's currently in super-madara form with rinnegan, and 1st hokage abilities as well as self regeneration so he's FAR stronger than he ever was in life he wouldn't stand a chance against the 5 kage's in his normal state. ultimate Susano'o hes barely even used his rinnegan abilities just once or twice to absorb a jutsu | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 10 2012 03:03 Slayer91 wrote: Probably need rinnegan//senju dna to use that form though. He said you were supposed to die if you saw that form and 1st didn't implies he couldn't use it back then. he said he threw the fight to get Senjus DNA and then Iznagid to fake his death he had the ultimate Susano'o back then its just the 1st wood techniques were strong enough to fight it also he let the 5 kages live after seeing it after he was forced to disengage it when the edo tensei deactivated he was like "well shit this is kinda embarrasing ima go now" also when he uses it he said " you should be glad Hashiramas not alive anymore since now the maps wont have to be redrawn so much" so he definently used the ultimate Susano'o against Hashirama | ||
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