On June 23 2013 05:57 Dekker wrote: I guess "Scully" will play a bigger role in season 2. The series did not have any big cliffhangers like your typically used to in drama series. Gonna see how this plays out. We only had a few little glimpses of mysteries that will at some point be solved.
I'm excited to see how Hannibal is able to turn Will around again to beeing his friend. If I remember right, the series is supposed to be before Red Dragon, and there Will was realizing Hannibal was the killer they were searching for for quite some time. In the state we are now, Will is already aware of Hannibal as the Killer. I'm wondering how they will play this one out.
I don't think it's in their highest priorities to make the series conclude just before the events of Red Dragon. I think they're taking their own direction. For example, it's 2013 and not 1960s. Although this is quite interesting, to find out where they're going with it. I hope I'm right, because otherwise we'd know that + Show Spoiler +
in the series Hannibal is never caught, or suspected in anything (which is already turning out to be not the case), so we shall see.
imo, if you're reading this far into the thread you should expect spoilers. like this one:
scully knew she was eating abigail. that was the beauty of the scene. she clearly didn't want to but took a bite out of fear and respect for hannibal. and after she reluctantly took that first bite, hannibal smiled.
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
Ok but then, what to think of a psychiatrist that never shows emotions but whose eyes get slightly larger during a human meat dinner ? Are the writers just trying to play with our brains ?
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
Ok but then, what to think of a psychiatrist that never shows emotions but whose eyes get slightly larger during a human meat dinner ? Are the writers just trying to play with our brains ?
Yeah, they are trying to play with our brains. I think her eyes widened because the meat tasted good [as everyone has remarked, it is after all a gourmet meal].
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
I'm gonna assume that last bit was directed at me from my comment earlier. Psychiatrists are not trained to never show emotion. They know how you'd expect them to feel and can cherry pick their emotions based on that to manipulate you; like Hannibal does throughout the entire show. Naturally not all psychiatrists are manipulative psychopaths, but I don't trust her personally.
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
I'm gonna assume that last bit was directed at me from my comment earlier. Psychiatrists are not trained to never show emotion. They know how you'd expect them to feel and can cherry pick their emotions based on that to manipulate you; like Hannibal does throughout the entire show. Naturally not all psychiatrists are manipulative psychopaths, but I don't trust her personally.
Theres few psychiatrists who are capable of that kind of emotional manipulation. Its a massive stretch, and its too obvious an interpretation, just like lounds being murdered by hannibal, which was heavily implied given the scene directly after he first met her.
On June 24 2013 17:23 MadProbe wrote: scully knew she was eating abigail
What are you basing this on?
Apparently if someones eyes go slightly larger [like you do whenever your interested in something, i.e tastey meat] its a clear, unequivocal sign that you know your eating human meat and are complicit in a serial killer/cannibals plans.
Or something. Oh, and psychiatrists are trained never to show emotion [never heard of that before, but im sure its true!].
I'm gonna assume that last bit was directed at me from my comment earlier. Psychiatrists are not trained to never show emotion. They know how you'd expect them to feel and can cherry pick their emotions based on that to manipulate you; like Hannibal does throughout the entire show. Naturally not all psychiatrists are manipulative psychopaths, but I don't trust her personally.
Psychiatrists are doctors who specialize in medicating the brain. They are not psychologists. That's not how they are trained.
Is the ending scene for the last episode that Wil remembers what happened in the house before he got shot and he realizes who Hannibal is, and now will have to play a game while incarcerated?
One thing that bugs me was how they could not check his brain for inflammations one more time... Even after his doctor got killed and his was in hospital multiple times... I feel like they should still be able to figure out that something is wrong and worth checking....
On June 25 2013 23:13 Am0n3r wrote: Is the ending scene for the last episode that Wil remembers what happened in the house before he got shot and he realizes who Hannibal is, and now will have to play a game while incarcerated?
One thing that bugs me was how they could not check his brain for inflammations one more time... Even after his doctor got killed and his was in hospital multiple times... I feel like they should still be able to figure out that something is wrong and worth checking....
On June 25 2013 23:13 Am0n3r wrote: Is the ending scene for the last episode that Wil remembers what happened in the house before he got shot and he realizes who Hannibal is, and now will have to play a game while incarcerated?
One thing that bugs me was how they could not check his brain for inflammations one more time... Even after his doctor got killed and his was in hospital multiple times... I feel like they should still be able to figure out that something is wrong and worth checking....
Hannibal made everyone trust his words.
That is true, but does the ending shot shows that Wil got him figured out and he remembers what happened before he got shot?
Also... I really hate this ended to the season, there is absolutely no conclusion to anything
On June 25 2013 23:13 Am0n3r wrote: Is the ending scene for the last episode that Wil remembers what happened in the house before he got shot and he realizes who Hannibal is, and now will have to play a game while incarcerated?
One thing that bugs me was how they could not check his brain for inflammations one more time... Even after his doctor got killed and his was in hospital multiple times... I feel like they should still be able to figure out that something is wrong and worth checking....
Hannibal made everyone trust his words.
That is true, but does the ending shot shows that Wil got him figured out and he remembers what happened before he got shot?
Also... I really hate this ended to the season, there is absolutely no conclusion to anything
Personally I think that the ending is great: first of all there's a conclusion to the series, since Hannibal tecnically won. But I believe that the "real" conclusion is more subtle... it's about Hannibal finding an equal, a friend.
The last episode is a masterclass about things left unsaid, but still very present. Scully knows about Hannibal's alimentary habits (she refuses to go eat at Hannibal's so he has to take the dinner to herself, plus the look on her eyes is great) and she knows he's a killer: interesting to know that at first she is scared because Hannibal doing something unexpected may be bad news for her, but the moment he mentions Will she immediately relax and even starts to play quirky. Hannibal states that it will be his goodbye to Will, "more or less". That's because he can't understand what Will's reaction after seeing the one who framed him will be.
Then, Hannibal goes to the prison and feels at peace, since he avoided the capture and even better... he just won. But the thing that makes the ending great is that simple exchange between the two opponents: have you noticed how many times the "hello Will" - "hello, Doctor Lecter" mantra is repeated through all the series? It's not only a matter of Will not rushing to the cell's door and screaming his rage at his nemesis. Will realises what happened, he is destroyed... he was even about to kill Hannibal if not stopped (thus giving Hannibal the answer he was searching for: "are you a killer?"). But what does he do? He raises up, takes a good look before answering and then answers back.
It means that after all nothing has changed: it's a confirmation of roles. And that's exactly why Hannibal cannot contain his smile, because he's happy like that. Can't wait for another season, it's going to be brutal.
For those who didn't pick it up: interesting number on Will's jail suit, right? B 5160 - 8... I wonder if any other movie with a certain doctor in jail feature a number like that ^^
if you hannibal fans are bored check out 'the fall'. its a bbc show, also on netflix, starring gillian anderson as a detective hunting a serial killer. i thought it was quite good. i seached and didnt see it mentioned. if you guys have been over this, then i apologize.
that second episode opener was the most gruesome thing ive ever seen. i havnt looked away from a tv show in a long time but i literally couldnt watch that. damn
On March 09 2014 08:10 Entertaining wrote: that second episode opener was the most gruesome thing ive ever seen. i havnt looked away from a tv show in a long time but i literally couldnt watch that. damn
My girlfriend almost stopped watching the whole episode after that
This show just keeps getting better and better though, oh man. & the cinematography is really something special
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