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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 27 2013 21:07 GMT
#2181
On August 28 2013 05:59 packrat386 wrote:
objective overview of the War in Iraq.


nonsense question. there's no such thing as objectivity.
shikata ga nai
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 27 2013 21:08 GMT
#2182
On August 28 2013 06:07 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 05:59 packrat386 wrote:
objective overview of the War in Iraq.


nonsense question. there's no such thing as objectivity.

Come on sam, you know what I meant. I want a low analysis version.
dreaming of a sunny day
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 27 2013 21:09 GMT
#2183
fuck that. just read 'The Shock Doctrine'
shikata ga nai
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 27 2013 21:12 GMT
#2184
On August 28 2013 06:09 sam!zdat wrote:
fuck that. just read 'The Shock Doctrine'

After checking wikipedia, no thanks. I don't drink the kool aid.
dreaming of a sunny day
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 27 2013 21:18 GMT
#2185
The Well of Ascension (2nd book in the Mistborn trilogy)

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The first book was very enjoyable.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 27 2013 21:42 GMT
#2186
On August 28 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 06:09 sam!zdat wrote:
fuck that. just read 'The Shock Doctrine'

After checking wikipedia, no thanks. I don't drink the kool aid.


don't be foolish. Naomi klein is one of the only real journalists we have left. You've just been brainwashed into thinking that the only way to be 'objective' is to be a milquetoast apologist. It's just the ideology of the status quo.
shikata ga nai
Doppelganger
Profile Joined May 2010
488 Posts
August 27 2013 21:43 GMT
#2187
On August 28 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 06:09 sam!zdat wrote:
fuck that. just read 'The Shock Doctrine'

After checking wikipedia, no thanks. I don't drink the kool aid.



I also was rather interested in something more closely resembling scientific literature.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 22:02:54
August 27 2013 21:52 GMT
#2188
that doesn't exist! It's a category error! Asking for 'scientific objectivity' about such a thing is already an ideological gesture! It's just some nonsense chimaera of 'a view from nowhere' and to seek such a thing in the humanities is the height of folly.

you would learn far more by reading klein and then some right winger and comparing than you ever would from your mythical 'objective source' which can never and will never exist.

we're an entire generation of people who have been brainwashed into thinking that we are 'scientists.' what lunacy!

look, I come from a philosophical tradition which spent over a hundred years thinking it had the one objecive viewpoint from which to construct the only true Science of history. It doesn't exist, never has, and never will. We are all lost in the funhouse my friend
shikata ga nai
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 28 2013 02:06 GMT
#2189
Speaking of da Kool-Aid
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Oh yeah sam, wasn't there a book on the Red Guards that you recommended to me on Facebook one day?
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
August 28 2013 02:24 GMT
#2190
Just finished reading Blubber Island, it is a pretty short book. A good description of the book lays on the back
Blubber Island is a philosophical, dark comedy written in the genre of Gutter Surrealism. The story centers on a cast of unique characters struggling to maintain and disrupt the fabric of reality. Using a blend of the outrageous and metaphysical, the question is asked: Is human freedom better off without reality?
I would definitely suggest reading this for anyone looking for a very dark humorous book which touches upon some interesting concepts of the human psyche. Has anyone else read this? If so what do you think of it?
[image loading]

Don't think I am going to do anything but skim for what I want but currently reading:
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Planning on reading:
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SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 28 2013 03:09 GMT
#2191
shiragaku it's by macfarquhar called mao's last revolution
shikata ga nai
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
August 28 2013 03:15 GMT
#2192
On August 28 2013 06:52 sam!zdat wrote:
We are all lost in the funhouse my friend


just make sure to enjoy the ride.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
August 28 2013 04:03 GMT
#2193
On August 28 2013 06:09 sam!zdat wrote:
fuck that. just read 'The Shock Doctrine'


that book sounds like the most awful thing ever

author spoke at my school had to go listen to it for a class, wanted to kill myself
TranslatorBaa!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 28 2013 04:04 GMT
#2194
why?
shikata ga nai
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 04:11:15
August 28 2013 04:07 GMT
#2195
On August 28 2013 13:04 sam!zdat wrote:
why?


because it's your standard, inane division of the world into the evil capitalists and everyone else who stands for freedom and democracy getting crushed by the dark, overwhelming forces of the economy

it's super naive and simplistic and it's nothing more than empty rhetoric supported by naught but ideology, and falls barely short of straight up lying to present her narrative

that in and of itself is fine, but when it tries to pass itself off as a work of serious scholarship it's really dumb

it doesn't help that she was a very poor speaker who got very awkward and hyperdefensive when taking Q and A afterwards
TranslatorBaa!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 28 2013 04:11 GMT
#2196
shallow caricature of her argument
shikata ga nai
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 04:14:06
August 28 2013 04:13 GMT
#2197
On August 28 2013 13:11 sam!zdat wrote:
shallow caricature of her argument


hardly

think the caricature had more depth than her actual argument
TranslatorBaa!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 04:31:38
August 28 2013 04:31 GMT
#2198
ridiculous. how did she lie

to confirm: you have not actually read the book correct?
shikata ga nai
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
August 28 2013 04:33 GMT
#2199
On August 28 2013 13:31 sam!zdat wrote:
ridiculous. how did she lie

to confirm: you have not actually read the book correct?


no

i read parts of it and heard her summarize most of it
TranslatorBaa!
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 04:37:09
August 28 2013 04:35 GMT
#2200
well if you actually have some substantive criticism that isn't just slander, I'd be interested to hear it. specifically, you accused her of lying, and i'd be interested to know about it, if that is more than just hot air
shikata ga nai
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