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"i want to defeat zereff!"
"no, i want to defeat zereff"
"i must stop you!"
"fight to the death"
And
"i must sacrifice my life to save everyone!"
"you know you really don't have to do that"
"shut up! I'm dying dammit! Be sad!"
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Erza breaks both arms, gets automail ones and learns alchemy?? 
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On October 18 2016 06:39 Spect8rCraft wrote:Erza breaks both arms, gets automail ones and learns alchemy??
Well that one arm did have cracks in it.....
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"i want to defeat zereff!"
"no, i want to defeat zereff"
"i must stop you!"
"fight to the death"
its
"i want to murder Zeref"
"well i want to murder END"
and
"i must sacrifice my life to save everyone!"
"you know you really don't have to do that"
"i cant bear to see the people precious to me suffering so im going to stop them from suffering!"
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That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice.
Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside.
Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it.
the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense+ Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick
Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense.
Bleh.
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On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh.
Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy)
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On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy)
it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though.
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On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though.
Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember?
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On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember?
i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them.
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On October 18 2016 17:48 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember? i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them.
she was only a threat because she could stop time and was fighting children
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On October 19 2016 07:24 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2016 17:48 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember? i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them. she was only a threat because she could stop time and was fighting children
She also only lost the fight because one of the children used all of the magic power she was ever going to have over the course of her life at once thanks to the intervention of a spooky time ghost lady.
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On October 19 2016 08:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 07:24 Forikorder wrote:On October 18 2016 17:48 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember? i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them. she was only a threat because she could stop time and was fighting children She also only lost the fight because one of the children used all of the magic power she was ever going to have over the course of her life at once thanks to the intervention of a spooky time ghost lady.
which might have made her almost as strong as Natsu was before the time skip
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On October 19 2016 09:02 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 08:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 19 2016 07:24 Forikorder wrote:On October 18 2016 17:48 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember? i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them. she was only a threat because she could stop time and was fighting children She also only lost the fight because one of the children used all of the magic power she was ever going to have over the course of her life at once thanks to the intervention of a spooky time ghost lady. which might have made her almost as strong as Natsu was before the time skip
Pre-time skip Natsu...who lost to Zancrow's Fire God Slayer magic and was about to die without Makarov's intervention on that island...is weaker than an entire lifetime of God Slayer magic?
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Wasn't that time magic woman like in literal godmode?
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On October 19 2016 09:29 Slaughter wrote:
Wasn't that time magic woman like in literal godmode?
literal godmode in the same way mira is in literal devilmode
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I mean what Mashima was basically conveying is that through random ass pull mechanics Wendy and company were able to use a 1 shot spell that would take out almost anyone (plus its not like it killed her). Of which they never would have gotten the chance to pull off if Mashima hadn't pulled even more out of his ass to tease us with Ultear.....She just needs to come back instead of getting reduced to a dues ex mechanic.
That is basically what that whole fight was...dues ex.
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On October 19 2016 12:03 Slaughter wrote:
I mean what Mashima was basically conveying is that through random ass pull mechanics Wendy and company were able to use a 1 shot spell that would take out almost anyone (plus its not like it killed her). Of which they never would have gotten the chance to pull off if Mashima hadn't pulled even more out of his ass to tease us with Ultear.....She just needs to come back instead of getting reduced to a dues ex mechanic.
That is basically what that whole fight was...dues ex.
so basically its like all his fights since the start of Rave Master
if you dont like his style then just dont read it, its never changed and never going to
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This thread is always fun to read 
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On October 19 2016 13:00 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 12:03 Slaughter wrote:
I mean what Mashima was basically conveying is that through random ass pull mechanics Wendy and company were able to use a 1 shot spell that would take out almost anyone (plus its not like it killed her). Of which they never would have gotten the chance to pull off if Mashima hadn't pulled even more out of his ass to tease us with Ultear.....She just needs to come back instead of getting reduced to a dues ex mechanic.
That is basically what that whole fight was...dues ex. so basically its like all his fights since the start of Rave Master if you dont like his style then just dont read it, its never changed and never going to
You can still like something and also have criticisms. Shocking I know but you don't have to go for the "then don't read it" crap whenever someone says something bad. Was just defending the Time wizard as she is still pretty OP and Mashima had to reach deep into his bag to have them pull out that win.
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On October 19 2016 09:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2016 09:02 Forikorder wrote:On October 19 2016 08:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:On October 19 2016 07:24 Forikorder wrote:On October 18 2016 17:48 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:54 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 16:32 abuse wrote:On October 18 2016 16:07 sharkie wrote:On October 18 2016 15:53 abuse wrote:That Laxus x Mavis moment was really nice. Erza bowing too. I wish we'd have more moments like this where stuff actually stirs something up inside. Natsu x Gray's fight is just ridiculous though and I do not feel anything at all for it. the fight itself makes no sense. Gray's mega powerup makes no sense + Show Spoiler +one of the 12 being left traumatized for life after fighting natsu for just a second or two, while gray can hold his own vs natsu, but never dominating any of the 12 like natsu did. Totally feels like natsu is just a million times weaker when fighting gray compared to the time manipulator chick . Natsu in END form not being able to break through an ice wall makes no sense, no matter who it is that is casting it. Erza going from bowing to Makarov to somehow teleporting in between Natsu and Gray makes no sense. Bleh. Gray totally destroyed one of the 12... (the ice guy) it wasn't on the same level of what natsu did to the time chick though. Yeah because the time chick is hella weak. That's the spriggan who lost to wendy and co, remember? i don't think we're reading the same manga, and you should read that part again to see just what needed to happen for dimaria to not utterly rape them. she was only a threat because she could stop time and was fighting children She also only lost the fight because one of the children used all of the magic power she was ever going to have over the course of her life at once thanks to the intervention of a spooky time ghost lady. which might have made her almost as strong as Natsu was before the time skip Pre-time skip Natsu...who lost to Zancrow's Fire God Slayer magic and was about to die without Makarov's intervention on that island...is weaker than an entire lifetime of God Slayer magic?
I think he means the other timeskip
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