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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 18 2013 14:50 GMT
#2121
On November 18 2013 14:35 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 14:17 Slaughter wrote:
Lucy has "I don't know how to balance/develop her power" syndrome.

Her magic has gone woefully under developed so far in the series and she basically just uses the same 3-4 spirits all the time for the same jokes every time they come out. (I think the author needs to bring back that celestial orb attack thing she got dled into her head in the one arc or ffs let her develop her spirits more).

She isn't like Sakura in that her skills were developed specially for a support roll with combat abilities that became outdated in the scope of the series as soon as she mastered them. Lucy's magic has the potential to be pretty powerful but she is reduced to Fan Service and exaggerated reaction to things character.

except weve already seen all the Keys and like just last arc she was about to release a new super spell but got blocked


Isn't that what I said? Having potential but being reduced to fan service fodder and laughs while her magic is basically cheap jokes surrounding the same spirits and their quirks over and over?
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 18 2013 15:19 GMT
#2122
Mirajane and Erza arent really heroines though
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 18 2013 15:26 GMT
#2123
Mirajane was hyped then subsequently left to do fuck all. Erza is held back by her crippling self-esteem problem where she needs either direct help of her friends or she has to specifically think of her friends and say something like "I don't protect them they protect me" before she can win any fight of consequence. She runs on friendship/emo power.

Never Knows Best.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 18 2013 15:27 GMT
#2124
On November 19 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:
Mirajane and Erza arent really heroines though

Wait. What are they then? Villainesses?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 18 2013 15:43 GMT
#2125
On November 19 2013 00:27 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:
Mirajane and Erza arent really heroines though

Wait. What are they then? Villainesses?

Natsu is the Hero and Lucy is the Heroine

everyone else is just a character of varying importance
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 18 2013 18:38 GMT
#2126
Erza (and even Wendy) is more of a heroine than useless Lucy. It's always Loke who does the actual hero stuff and Lucy taking the credit.

I can't remember a single thing Lucy has done that would even remotely qualify her as a heroine in any area except fan service (and even there it's questionable).
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#2127
Thats pretty much what Celestial Wizards are, using summons to do most of the heavy lifting.

She has beaten wizards before without anyones help but her own spirits. Urano Metria is supposed to be a pretty good attack as well and she used it vs Oracion Seis (and later with gemini). Her magic just gets played down because people would rather see Erza's or Grey's magic fight more then hers.

Like I said before Hiro has reduced her magic to mostly for laughs, but she does get her moments in the series.
Never Knows Best.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 18 2013 19:46 GMT
#2128
Summoning is in essence not your own power, though. Too much reliance upon others to count. It's even more evident in the case of Lucy, because Loke can just summon himself to save the day.

It's like saying Ash Ketchum is a powerful heroic fighter. He's not. Lucy's not.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 19 2013 04:02 GMT
#2129
On November 19 2013 04:46 sumsaR wrote:
Summoning is in essence not your own power, though. Too much reliance upon others to count. It's even more evident in the case of Lucy, because Loke can just summon himself to save the day.

It's like saying Ash Ketchum is a powerful heroic fighter. He's not. Lucy's not.


I didn't imply that she was some epic female heroine, thats not her role in the show. She is however the female lead and as I stated before its a travesty that her magic seems to be the least developed of the bunch. Her magic has a lot of potential but while everyone else in FT gets power ups and uses them consistently, whenever she gets one it gets put on the back burner in favor of Erza and Mirajane fights (who seem to be more popular except in the romance department because who Lucy ends up with is all anyone seems to care about). Its a matter of writing really and its a shame as Hiro is just catering.

The females in general in FT always seem to be forced to be constantly reminding the audience that they are female. Mirajane and her focus on family and being cute/gentle/reluctant to fight and even Erza, the BAMF of all females, always seems to fall back on having to be constantly reminded that she has friends (or Jellal calling out to her when she is about to lose a fight like when she was fighting that nature guy). Even Juvia was basically reduced to "I love gray!!" comedy fodder. Lucy is just the extreme extension of that because she is in the lead role.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 19 2013 04:26 GMT
#2130
Even Juvia was basically reduced to "I love gray!!" comedy fodder.


when was she anything but?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 19 2013 04:27 GMT
#2131
On November 19 2013 13:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Even Juvia was basically reduced to "I love gray!!" comedy fodder.


when was she anything but?


For about 1 episode when she was a villain, not surprised you don't remember it because it was brief.
Never Knows Best.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#2132
On November 19 2013 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 13:26 Forikorder wrote:
Even Juvia was basically reduced to "I love gray!!" comedy fodder.


when was she anything but?


For about 1 episode when she was a villain, not surprised you don't remember it because it was brief.

the fight where she spent half the time talking about her feelings?
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 06:55:31
November 20 2013 06:55 GMT
#2133
On November 19 2013 03:38 sumsaR wrote:
Erza (and even Wendy) is more of a heroine than useless Lucy. It's always Loke who does the actual hero stuff and Lucy taking the credit.

I can't remember a single thing Lucy has done that would even remotely qualify her as a heroine in any area except fan service (and even there it's questionable).

She was the first character introduced

On November 19 2013 13:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 13:27 Slaughter wrote:
On November 19 2013 13:26 Forikorder wrote:
Even Juvia was basically reduced to "I love gray!!" comedy fodder.


when was she anything but?


For about 1 episode when she was a villain, not surprised you don't remember it because it was brief.

the fight where she spent half the time talking about her feelings?

for gray yes
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#2134
She was basically only not comedy fodder when she was 1st introduced while kid napping Lucy. Oh and she went berserk mode for 1 fight because she thought Grey was dead or something.
Never Knows Best.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 22 2013 12:51 GMT
#2135
What qualification does one need to join the council of mages? Because, as evident when observing the old ex-members and the current council that got killed, it's not magical power.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 22 2013 13:31 GMT
#2136
Probably politics and stuff.
maru lover forever
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
November 22 2013 16:39 GMT
#2137
Lucy has potential to be an A-class mage with her magic. If you're really strong, multiple summons just kills people. Responding to several different types of magic is definitely not easy, and when you can use combination attacks as well to increase power exponentially (scorpio/miltank) then you can see how she'd be pretty strong. Her magic isn't enough to do this, but it's a cool idea.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
November 22 2013 17:13 GMT
#2138
There's a big problem with summoners. You can just attack the weak summoner to win.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 22 2013 17:46 GMT
#2139
If Lucy had higher amounts of magical power she would be OP with multiple summons and the ability to have Geminitwins copy powerful people.
Never Knows Best.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
November 24 2013 19:35 GMT
#2140
On November 23 2013 02:13 sumsaR wrote:
There's a big problem with summoners. You can just attack the weak summoner to win.


She has defensive summons as well. If I'm right, if she was stronger, she should even be able to go into the spirit realm momentarily to dodge attacks.
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