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On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Yeah alliance were one of the most dominant teams in the history of DotA, they were unbeatable during the TI3 era. They were the kings of that patch.
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LGD threw when they were in a position to win, more specifically, Ame threw by dying out of position without using BKB.
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On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?
If Secret win this TI, they are the GOAT.
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Too many must-ban heroes against OG.
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On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.
I like your point, but Alliance weren't at the top for very long either. They didnt even make it to the playoffs in TI 4. Na'VI has more time at the top than both, but they won a beta TI (most players hadnt even switched to dota2) and there were no majors back then...
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On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.
TI3 Alliance or TI5-era Secret (but not at TI) would be the most dominant. But OG (and the Notail/Seb team) are the best Main Stage team ever. They've found a way not to collapse on stage, which is really what's so different.
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On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance was pretty godly pre-ti3 to ti3.
EG probably around TI4-TI5 is the real goat. On both rosters too as they're both good teams back then (both sumail and rtz roster was winning waaay too many tournaments back then)
Ok Secret TI5 Era(not TI5 the tournament) was the most dominating team looks like.
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On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote: N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene. he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him. Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.
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On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.
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Honestly, the main team that has a shot at being called GOAT would be the Liquid roster.
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On August 24 2019 16:51 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote: N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene. he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him. Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.
Hands a bit shaky here. That was amazing close to all of those games.
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On August 24 2019 16:51 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote: N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene. he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him. Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.
I'd have the exact opposite. Knees weak, legs like jelly. They'd need to give me crutches to walk out of that booth.
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What about goat player? Do we pass the torch to a guy like Notail if he gets his 2nd aegis, back to back? Also a part of the 4 majors.
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On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled. Secret pre-TI5 would probably contest. They make all the teams look like absolute garbage back then.
OG when Ana first arrived is also a candidate winning so many major
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On August 24 2019 16:50 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? Can't count the majors as this current OG's achievement.
When you say that Real Madrid won this and that Champions league titles and are Europe best in that sense , do you only account for today team , in other sports all that matters is the Org ? sure there are individuals that are being remembered but its time for Org`s to get their due as well , i guess in the Dota scene its a bit too young , but in CN for example LGD are a very strong Org and they are the team , they buy and replace players to make the team stronger , maybe OG are not that level in regards to Org comes first , but it will be this way in the future.
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Didn't expect him to be this deeply impacted by the second finals. What a passion
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On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.
If Alliance had banned Wisp in the TI3 finals, Alliance pretty much would have walked to from Formation to a TI victory.
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On August 24 2019 16:53 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled. Secret pre-TI5 would probably contest. They make all the teams look like absolute garbage back then. OG when Ana first arrived is also a candidate winning so many major
Pre-TI or Post-TI has no place in this discussion imo. Goat discussion has to be weighted heavily towards TI performances.
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On August 24 2019 16:53 Sif_ wrote: What about goat player? Do we pass the torch to a guy like Notail if he gets his 2nd aegis, back to back? Also a part of the 4 majors. Ana probably in terms of big results if he wins 2 TI's but there are soo many players winning so many tournaments. Believe or not Arteezy is big candidate as he actually won soooo many tournament back since pre-TI4 era
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On August 24 2019 16:51 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote: Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place? I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment. Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance? Alliance was pretty godly pre-ti3 to ti3. EG probably around TI4-TI5 is the real goat. On both rosters too as they're both good teams back then (both sumail and rtz roster was winning waaay too many tournaments back then) Ok Secret TI5 Era(not TI5 the tournament) was the most dominating team looks like.
Modern EG has to be one of the greatest disappointments. Sumail is just so ridiculously dominant mid. Feel like they would be worlds better with PPD drafting again.
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