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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 24 2019 07:50 GMT
#1041
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Yeah alliance were one of the most dominant teams in the history of DotA, they were unbeatable during the TI3 era. They were the kings of that patch.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 24 2019 07:50 GMT
#1042
LGD threw when they were in a position to win, more specifically, Ame threw by dying out of position without using BKB.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
August 24 2019 07:50 GMT
#1043
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?


If Secret win this TI, they are the GOAT.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 24 2019 07:51 GMT
#1044
Too many must-ban heroes against OG.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 24 2019 07:51 GMT
#1045
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.


I like your point, but Alliance weren't at the top for very long either. They didnt even make it to the playoffs in TI 4. Na'VI has more time at the top than both, but they won a beta TI (most players hadnt even switched to dota2) and there were no majors back then...
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 07:51:38
August 24 2019 07:51 GMT
#1046
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.


TI3 Alliance or TI5-era Secret (but not at TI) would be the most dominant. But OG (and the Notail/Seb team) are the best Main Stage team ever. They've found a way not to collapse on stage, which is really what's so different.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 07:52:04
August 24 2019 07:51 GMT
#1047
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance was pretty godly pre-ti3 to ti3.

EG probably around TI4-TI5 is the real goat. On both rosters too as they're both good teams back then (both sumail and rtz roster was winning waaay too many tournaments back then)

Ok Secret TI5 Era(not TI5 the tournament) was the most dominating team looks like.
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 24 2019 07:51 GMT
#1048
On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:
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On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene.

he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him.

Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 24 2019 07:52 GMT
#1049
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-24 07:52:33
August 24 2019 07:52 GMT
#1050
Honestly, the main team that has a shot at being called GOAT would be the Liquid roster.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 24 2019 07:52 GMT
#1051
On August 24 2019 16:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene.

he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him.

Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.


Hands a bit shaky here. That was amazing close to all of those games.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9570 Posts
August 24 2019 07:52 GMT
#1052
On August 24 2019 16:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:50 Snakesneaks wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
N0tail having a hand on his crotch is making this interview very awkward to watch actually after this scene.

he is having seizure now after the nervewrecking series. can't blame him.

Make no mistake, i would have both of my legs causing earthquake at this point, but it's still wild.


I'd have the exact opposite. Knees weak, legs like jelly. They'd need to give me crutches to walk out of that booth.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 24 2019 07:53 GMT
#1053
What about goat player? Do we pass the torch to a guy like Notail if he gets his 2nd aegis, back to back? Also a part of the 4 majors.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 24 2019 07:53 GMT
#1054
On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.

Secret pre-TI5 would probably contest. They make all the teams look like absolute garbage back then.

OG when Ana first arrived is also a candidate winning so many major
this is a quote
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 24 2019 07:53 GMT
#1055
On August 24 2019 16:50 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

Can't count the majors as this current OG's achievement.


When you say that Real Madrid won this and that Champions league titles and are Europe best in that sense , do you only account for today team , in other sports all that matters is the Org ? sure there are individuals that are being remembered but its time for Org`s to get their due as well , i guess in the Dota scene its a bit too young , but in CN for example LGD are a very strong Org and they are the team , they buy and replace players to make the team stronger , maybe OG are not that level in regards to Org comes first , but it will be this way in the future.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 24 2019 07:53 GMT
#1056
Didn't expect him to be this deeply impacted by the second finals. What a passion
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 24 2019 07:53 GMT
#1057
On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.


If Alliance had banned Wisp in the TI3 finals, Alliance pretty much would have walked to from Formation to a TI victory.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 24 2019 07:54 GMT
#1058
On August 24 2019 16:53 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:52 nojok wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance's 6 months of dominance are still unparalleled.

Secret pre-TI5 would probably contest. They make all the teams look like absolute garbage back then.

OG when Ana first arrived is also a candidate winning so many major


Pre-TI or Post-TI has no place in this discussion imo. Goat discussion has to be weighted heavily towards TI performances.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
August 24 2019 07:54 GMT
#1059
On August 24 2019 16:53 Sif_ wrote:
What about goat player? Do we pass the torch to a guy like Notail if he gets his 2nd aegis, back to back? Also a part of the 4 majors.

Ana probably in terms of big results if he wins 2 TI's but there are soo many players winning so many tournaments. Believe or not Arteezy is big candidate as he actually won soooo many tournament back since pre-TI4 era
this is a quote
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
August 24 2019 07:54 GMT
#1060
On August 24 2019 16:51 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:49 Slomo wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 24 2019 16:45 Sif_ wrote:
Can we call OG the GOAT team? if they win the finals, id say 100%. And even if they don't, can you argue with 4 majors + aegis + 2nd place?

I'd call OG a great team and back to back champions, but I'd consider GOAT to be the most dominant team for the longest time. OG peaked at TI8 and is peaking again at TI9 but they were shit for periods in between. I'd say Alliance deserves GOAT more than OG at the moment.

Uhm. I'd understand VP/Liquid/Secret. But Alliance?

Alliance was pretty godly pre-ti3 to ti3.

EG probably around TI4-TI5 is the real goat. On both rosters too as they're both good teams back then (both sumail and rtz roster was winning waaay too many tournaments back then)

Ok Secret TI5 Era(not TI5 the tournament) was the most dominating team looks like.


Modern EG has to be one of the greatest disappointments. Sumail is just so ridiculously dominant mid. Feel like they would be worlds better with PPD drafting again.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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