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[Major] Kuala Lumpur 2018 - Main Event Day 6

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 15:30:11
November 16 2018 20:09 GMT
#1

The Kuala Lumpur Major


Saturday, Nov 17 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

(Wiki)PGL/Kuala Lumpur Major

Streams



uk PGL Main

Format

  • Playoffs

  • The playoffs will be held from November 11 to 18.
  • Only the final three days will be in front of a live crowd.
  • Double-elimination bracket.
  • All games except Grand Finals and Lower Bracket Round 1 are Bo3.
  • Lower Bracket Round 1 are Bo1
  • Grand Finals is Bo5

Teams & Players


Matches


Losers Round 4
Saturday, Nov 17 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Losers Round 5
Saturday, Nov 17 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Winner Bracket Finals
Saturday, Nov 17 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 16 2018 20:09 GMT
#2
Poll: PSG LGD vs Evil Geniuses

Evil Geniuses Win (9)
 
56%

PSG LGD Win (7)
 
44%

16 total votes

Your vote: PSG LGD vs Evil Geniuses

(Vote): PSG LGD Win
(Vote): Evil Geniuses Win


Poll: Ninjas in Pyjamas vs PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses

PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses Win (8)
 
57%

Ninjas in Pyjamas Win (6)
 
43%

14 total votes

Your vote: Ninjas in Pyjamas vs PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses

(Vote): Ninjas in Pyjamas Win
(Vote): PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses Win


Poll: Team Secret vs Virtus Pro

Team Secret Win (10)
 
53%

Virtus Pro Win (9)
 
47%

19 total votes

Your vote: Team Secret vs Virtus Pro

(Vote): Team Secret Win
(Vote): Virtus Pro Win

ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 16 2018 21:53 GMT
#3
--- Nuked ---
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
November 16 2018 23:40 GMT
#4
Secret fucking stole VP's Mercedes. I think payback is in order.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 17 2018 01:32 GMT
#5
EG vs LGD will be the best match of the day. I wonder how lgd gonna handle rtz's tb/warden.

PPD could be cocky in his interview but i am sure they will get thrown around by LGD if LGD manages to win.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
November 17 2018 04:00 GMT
#6
draft is live!
LiquidDota Staff
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 04:04:11
November 17 2018 04:03 GMT
#7
LGD win 2-1

edit: that said, heart says EG 2-0.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 04:40 GMT
#8
LGD still tilted from yesterday lol
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 17 2018 04:41 GMT
#9
LGD won't take a game with this level of sloppiness.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
November 17 2018 04:41 GMT
#10
Yea LGD is throwing game1 now lol

The tilt is real
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 17 2018 04:44 GMT
#11
Who knew 357 was so important to LGD, lol.
Moderator
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 17 2018 05:13 GMT
#12
This is the only type of game where Viper would be possibly considered.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
November 17 2018 05:14 GMT
#13
puck yeah
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 17 2018 05:30 GMT
#14
some nice junk and play from from LGD
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
November 17 2018 05:59 GMT
#15
What da crit!?!??!?!?

Aegis snatcher professional
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 17 2018 06:04 GMT
#16
that was some good dota
ffxiv enjoyer
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 17 2018 06:04 GMT
#17
very very very high level dota omg ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
November 17 2018 06:05 GMT
#18
--- Nuked ---
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 17 2018 06:05 GMT
#19
great game overall
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 17 2018 06:06 GMT
#20
lgd kept falling for the spectre bait
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
November 17 2018 06:06 GMT
#21
What a game. Sumail is a god.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5121 Posts
November 17 2018 06:08 GMT
#22
And now a rematch between NiP and EG. Are you not entertained?
"you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen" - racebannon
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 17 2018 06:14 GMT
#23
Cr1t, Sumail and S4 their initiation and the balls to dive into rosh pit.
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 17 2018 06:27 GMT
#24
EG itemization is on point, tiny burst cancel by NW ulti, CW Crimson Guard + ulti makes Luna life so hard.
with silencer, CW and spectre ulti up, LGD had almost no way to win teamfight in late game.
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 17 2018 06:32 GMT
#25
The stage is empty? or am i missing something?
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 17 2018 06:52 GMT
#26
On November 17 2018 15:27 zergtat wrote:
EG itemization is on point, tiny burst cancel by NW ulti, CW Crimson Guard + ulti makes Luna life so hard.
with silencer, CW and spectre ulti up, LGD had almost no way to win teamfight in late game.


think tiny not going bkb screwed them too hard
you had silencer ult, spec ult to cancel blink, centaur stun, puck silence all to deal with
atleast with a bkb you can counter stun and get your combo off and burst down some heroes
hard game and eg played it super well by baiting spec and having everyone group up against him
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
November 17 2018 07:04 GMT
#27
Jabaited lol
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
November 17 2018 07:22 GMT
#28
haha no booths or anything, what kind of 3rd world major is this
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 08:09 GMT
#29
It somehow seems exciting to see ppd destroy eg 2 series in a row.

Technically it's MC with 4 standins.

This standin situation really makes me question Liquid core synergy. Liquid 3 cores seem too greedy. Matu does create space but his space creation is through attracting attention with cancer heroes instead of going around killing heroes like a traditional pos 2.
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
November 17 2018 08:14 GMT
#30
On November 17 2018 17:09 babysimba wrote:
It somehow seems exciting to see ppd destroy eg 2 series in a row.

Technically it's MC with 4 standins.

This standin situation really makes me question Liquid core synergy. Liquid 3 cores seem too greedy. Matu does create space but his space creation is through attracting attention with cancer heroes instead of going around killing heroes like a traditional pos 2.

I wonder what MC will report back to Liquid about PPD's thoughts on the current meta. Also, along the same vein, I wonder how much PPD has learned from talking to MC about how Liquid thinks about the current meta.

If it weren't for a balance patch on the horizon, the next time Liquid and NiP meet could be interesting, might still be despite the patch.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
November 17 2018 08:16 GMT
#31
Saksa stealing all ults except Global Silence is a joy to watch.
None
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
November 17 2018 08:26 GMT
#32
I don't see NiP closing this out in the late game. Pretty sure EG are on a level above them in the late game.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 08:38 GMT
#33
what a game
The Real Power~
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
November 17 2018 08:41 GMT
#34
Games over if Morphling dies in this fight
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
November 17 2018 08:42 GMT
#35
Messy haymakers in the lategame.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
November 17 2018 08:49 GMT
#36
Ace had SO MANY close calls in the last 10 minutes. Fuck
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 08:52:04
November 17 2018 08:51 GMT
#37
jesus christ, this game, Saksa and MC mvps
The Real Power~
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 17 2018 08:51 GMT
#38
man ... i thought the LGD vs EG game was good ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
November 17 2018 08:51 GMT
#39
both teams suck at this point.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 08:54:48
November 17 2018 08:52 GMT
#40
On November 17 2018 17:42 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Messy haymakers in the lategame.

Makes for the most exciting games though :D

On November 17 2018 17:26 Moobutt wrote:
I don't see NiP closing this out in the late game. Pretty sure EG are on a level above them in the late game.

This didn't age well, lol
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 08:53 GMT
#41
That was quite the game 1 lol
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
November 17 2018 08:53 GMT
#42
I really expected EG to out-perform NiP on buyback management in order to secure the win late.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 08:55 GMT
#43
NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
November 17 2018 08:56 GMT
#44
Great game 1.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
November 17 2018 08:57 GMT
#45
On November 17 2018 17:55 uthgard wrote:
NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol

IDK 33 is really good, I'd say he's up there with MC
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
November 17 2018 08:58 GMT
#46
On November 17 2018 17:53 Moobutt wrote:
I really expected EG to out-perform NiP on buyback management in order to secure the win late.


That Arteezy death while farming near SS was painful, and put them behind bb's for quite a while.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 09:04 GMT
#47
On November 17 2018 17:57 sc14s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2018 17:55 uthgard wrote:
NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol

IDK 33 is really good, I'd say he's up there with MC

true, but he hasn't really proved himself in that kind of high tension late game situation before like MC

MC has the "clutch factor" for a lack of better word
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 17 2018 09:42 GMT
#48
Too easy for ppd
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 09:43:22
November 17 2018 09:43 GMT
#49
What a shambles from EG. Ace can just walk around and set up kills as he likes.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 09:43 GMT
#50
Visage pick raped EG hard
The Real Power~
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 09:43 GMT
#51
PPD <3
The Bomber boy
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 09:52 GMT
#52
holy shit that Fly save on RTZ turned the game
The Real Power~
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
November 17 2018 09:52 GMT
#53
Nightmare and sunder, and now Nip are in trouble.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 09:52 GMT
#54
EGEGEGEGEGEG
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 09:52 GMT
#55
???
The Bomber boy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 09:53 GMT
#56
Biggest 322 I have seen
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 09:53 GMT
#57
Lol sunder is a thing.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 09:53 GMT
#58
ahahahaha wtf, hopefully the bet money was worth it for that throw BannedTwitchEmote
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 09:53 GMT
#59
Fly coming in clutch
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 09:55 GMT
#60
On November 17 2018 18:53 ShiaoPi wrote:
Fly coming in clutch

And a few frames of invisibility it seemed, NiP missed dust a few times this game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 10:05 GMT
#61
322 EGG
The Real Power~
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 10:06 GMT
#62
EG > EGG
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 10:06 GMT
#63
What the hell was this egg initiation?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 10:07 GMT
#64
Hero birds creep skipping.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 10:08 GMT
#65
Uhhhh? NiP???!?
Can't afford those kind of shitty initiations
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 10:10 GMT
#66
Already tilted.

I'm guessing their first 322 was because someone made a call to keep EG busy around rosh pit while furion tried to push the bottom lane in. Then they just bought back and fed even more.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 10:11 GMT
#67
rwefjrytgaswey789dfhaweios[frpkwdes\er]
\
LKhanBSIJKYO
The Bomber boy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 10:11 GMT
#68
Holy shit.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 17 2018 10:12 GMT
#69
Woke up to this

This is interesting
Moderator
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 10:12 GMT
#70
omg wtf
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Gamble28
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany107 Posts
November 17 2018 10:12 GMT
#71
lul that stunduration just beautiful
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 10:12 GMT
#72
On November 17 2018 19:06 PoulsenB wrote:
EG > EGG

EGGS > EG > EGG
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 10:13 GMT
#73
kinda cocky by RTZ there
The Real Power~
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 10:14 GMT
#74
This series is some great stuff
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 10:16 GMT
#75
could've been a big win if phoenix didn't fucked up...again
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 10:16 GMT
#76
ace lvl 25 soon, very important
The Bomber boy
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 10:18 GMT
#77
s4 <3
The Real Power~
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 10:19 GMT
#78
amazing series
The Real Power~
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 10:19 GMT
#79
3% XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
November 17 2018 10:20 GMT
#80
3% against power push team, ok
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 10:20 GMT
#81
Liquid with 4 standins really looks better than EG tho. They SHOULD take game 3.
The Bomber boy
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 10:25 GMT
#82
I really hope game 3 is not gonna end in a random stomp now
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Nagvalk
Profile Joined June 2011
South Africa220 Posts
November 17 2018 10:35 GMT
#83
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win

Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
November 17 2018 10:38 GMT
#84
On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win


Or better yet:
1. Pick Arc Warden
2. Farm
3. Win

Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol.
None
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
November 17 2018 10:46 GMT
#85
doesn't this NiP draft feel a bit less able to pick off in the mid game?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 11:08 GMT
#86
honestly reflection is so stupid haha
steals natural order as well xd
The Bomber boy
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 11:17 GMT
#87
sunder kinda good skill
The Real Power~
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 11:18 GMT
#88
I mean, I'd be way more impressed if Terrorblade wasn't the hero he is.
The Bomber boy
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 11:18 GMT
#89
It's always annoying to not understand why they don't ban TB. I fully aknowledge they know better than I so it makes me feel stupid.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 17 2018 11:22 GMT
#90
On November 17 2018 19:38 Damned627 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win


Or better yet:
1. Pick Arc Warden
2. Farm
3. Win

Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol.

I like it, it s a shame they re going down now in g3. Not sure why dota+ says NiP is the favored they re quite obviously in a hole
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 11:23 GMT
#91
On November 17 2018 20:22 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2018 19:38 Damned627 wrote:
On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win


Or better yet:
1. Pick Arc Warden
2. Farm
3. Win

Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol.

I like it, it s a shame they re going down now in g3. Not sure why dota+ says NiP is the favored they re quite obviously in a hole

Storm Spirit fucks the evaluation hard
The Bomber boy
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
November 17 2018 11:23 GMT
#92
i hope finally for a TB rework, this hero is allways useless or broken as fuck... mostly broken
so sick of seeing him all the time.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 11:25 GMT
#93
NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 17 2018 11:27 GMT
#94
On November 17 2018 20:25 babysimba wrote:
NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.

Maybe im missing something, the way i see it if both teams play without any major mistakes EG wins this 100% of the time. NiP needs to capitalize on some big mistakes
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
November 17 2018 11:30 GMT
#95
On November 17 2018 20:25 babysimba wrote:
NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.


But then rtz hits his reflection button and their late game is why better.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 17 2018 11:34 GMT
#96
Sunder is a good spell
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 11:34 GMT
#97
big plays by RTZ holy shit
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 11:34 GMT
#98
Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run.
The Bomber boy
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 11:35 GMT
#99
Ace doesn't even press his aura to push out lanes the entire game smh.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#100
s4 moustache???
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
November 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#101
On November 17 2018 20:34 Wintex wrote:
Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run.

We want a real icefrog patch, blow the meta.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 17 2018 11:37 GMT
#102
Yep, this major is going to Secret or VP

I love my boy Artour but there's no way he carries any game vs those two teams. EG struggles too much vs NIP with MC (credit to MC tho, what a god).
The Bomber boy
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 11:39 GMT
#103
well, a really good series overall, the 3 best teams will fight for the title in the end.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 11:45:09
November 17 2018 11:43 GMT
#104
On November 17 2018 20:37 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2018 20:34 Wintex wrote:
Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run.

We want a real icefrog patch, blow the meta.

honestly fuck no

icefrog ruined dota with 6.82 rubberband garbage
he just had to introduce garbage and iterate instead of toning down void, tinker, viper and mekansm. 6.81b-d was the best.

all he has to do is destroy the hard carries and maybe rework some of them, because he's pushed the economy game to a point where it's dumb af compared to before.
The Bomber boy
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 11:45 GMT
#105
Can't wait for Terrorblade to be dumpstered come 7.20
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
November 17 2018 11:50 GMT
#106
The whole series came down to that nightmare by Fly in game 2 that allowed for the turnaround, NiP were playing really well with a good draft.
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Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
November 17 2018 11:53 GMT
#107
TB got picked a lot but weird thing is his counters basically doesnt get picked or even banned,even in the game he lost. nobody is picking or banning necro,zeus,tinker etc. in this series. you can even just void+aa his ass. everyone seems to forgot what to do
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 12:02:12
November 17 2018 11:58 GMT
#108
zeus will just get dumpstered mid agaisnt kunkka. necro is offlaner now and they needed initiator. the thing is nip depended on mc to initiate. Game 2 was saksa fault and the draft put it in a way that they dont have counter to bkb.

game 3 was just shit draft. i dont know what was ppd thinking but drow couldnt fight against tb with bkb. they still had no way to push through eg lineup.
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
November 17 2018 12:00 GMT
#109
Really liked NiP's development this major, especially Fata's. He went from a non factor mid at Hamburg to a solid one I saw in the Main Event here.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 17 2018 12:12 GMT
#110
On November 17 2018 20:58 crocshark wrote:
zeus will just get dumpstered mid agaisnt kunkka. necro is offlaner now and they needed initiator. the thing is nip depended on mc to initiate. Game 2 was saksa fault and the draft put it in a way that they dont have counter to bkb.

game 3 was just shit draft. i dont know what was ppd thinking but drow couldnt fight against tb with bkb. they still had no way to push through eg lineup.

Drow lineup win lanes, split the map open with early towers and drow aura to push lane creeps in. Allow opportunities for catch on storm and sb drow. Teamfight backed up by ES, phoenix and ET armor negating aura. Well that was the game plan with that draft. Execution is another story.

You either win TB by controlling the entire game and end it early, or pick direct counters like heavy burst stuns lineups to deal with his sunder but risk TB getting out of control early because those heroes tend to be weaker in laning.

Sunder is the main reason why TB is such a broken hero. It makes it way too easy to execute compared to other carries.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 12:20 GMT
#111
huh IO
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 12:49:14
November 17 2018 12:25 GMT
#112
isn't OD also good against TB. i forgot about this hero

i think this is gg
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 13:01 GMT
#113
Nisha is ridiculously good at morphling
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 13:03 GMT
#114
I hate morphling
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Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
November 17 2018 13:05 GMT
#115
nisha is still undefeated on morph
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 13:06 GMT
#116
secret very much so the favorites to take the entire thing I would say
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
November 17 2018 13:08 GMT
#117
They certainly looked like a better team, i mean after the phone-boot-knife-fight that EG v NiP was, this was fairly one sided.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
November 17 2018 13:12 GMT
#118
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
November 17 2018 13:20 GMT
#119
On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes

It kinda feels like Puppey builds a team to be good in the TI patch and then Secret falls off after the first big patch
rip
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 17 2018 13:22 GMT
#120
why did solo play axe ? hes so bad at it.
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 17 2018 13:24 GMT
#121
On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes


then what is matumba role ? who will play the initiator or the play maker to make space for miracle?
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 13:34:14
November 17 2018 13:29 GMT
#122
On November 17 2018 22:24 crocshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes


then what is matumba role ? who will play the initiator or the play maker to make space for miracle?

how is this even a question? they're already spamming stuff like TB,spec or morph for miracle

how is ursa not picked or banned. it's so good for both teams here
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 13:46 GMT
#123
zai and getting solo killed, name a better duo this series
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-17 13:56:21
November 17 2018 13:56 GMT
#124
Secret should've first pick centaur instead of AW tbh, especially considering that both AW and morph was available
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 13:59 GMT
#125
Virtus Plowed
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 14:03 GMT
#126
close game 3 please? x)
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nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 17 2018 14:07 GMT
#127
On November 17 2018 22:59 Zea! wrote:
Virtus Plowed


secrekt
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
November 17 2018 14:42 GMT
#128
midone will be severely underfarmed if he keeps roaming
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 17 2018 14:49 GMT
#129
Midone is already out of this game, but comeback mechanics are bs so he will get 20k in 1 fight and will be n1 networth 🤔
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
November 17 2018 15:05 GMT
#130
Arc Warden and Ember Splitpush is disgusting!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 17 2018 15:16 GMT
#131
Rodjer has been really meh on vp for quite a while
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
November 17 2018 15:16 GMT
#132
rotjer is struggling
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 17 2018 15:20 GMT
#133
god damn yapzor is so on point
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Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 17 2018 15:21 GMT
#134
AW more disgusting than TB
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uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
November 17 2018 15:22 GMT
#135
the difference in impact between both pos 4 is so big it's hillarious
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 17 2018 15:28 GMT
#136
On November 18 2018 00:22 uthgard wrote:
the difference in impact between both pos 4 is so big it's hillarious

and so do pos 3
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 17 2018 21:40 GMT
#137
can icefrog just ban or remove arc warden?
how is this hero balanced?
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