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Pandemona
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Poll: PSG LGD vs Evil GeniusesEvil Geniuses Win (9) 56% PSG LGD Win (7) 44% 16 total votes Your vote: PSG LGD vs Evil Geniuses (Vote): PSG LGD Win
(Vote): Evil Geniuses Win
Poll: Ninjas in Pyjamas vs PSG LGD or Evil GeniusesPSG LGD or Evil Geniuses Win (8) 57% Ninjas in Pyjamas Win (6) 43% 14 total votes Your vote: Ninjas in Pyjamas vs PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses (Vote): Ninjas in Pyjamas Win
(Vote): PSG LGD or Evil Geniuses Win
Poll: Team Secret vs Virtus ProTeam Secret Win (10) 53% Virtus Pro Win (9) 47% 19 total votes Your vote: Team Secret vs Virtus Pro (Vote): Team Secret Win
(Vote): Virtus Pro Win
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I really want to see EG get revenge for TI and for a great series between them and NiP
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Secret fucking stole VP's Mercedes. I think payback is in order.
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EG vs LGD will be the best match of the day. I wonder how lgd gonna handle rtz's tb/warden.
PPD could be cocky in his interview but i am sure they will get thrown around by LGD if LGD manages to win.
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LGD win 2-1
edit: that said, heart says EG 2-0.
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LGD still tilted from yesterday lol
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United States15275 Posts
LGD won't take a game with this level of sloppiness.
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Yea LGD is throwing game1 now lol
The tilt is real
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United States47024 Posts
Who knew 357 was so important to LGD, lol.
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United States15275 Posts
This is the only type of game where Viper would be possibly considered. 
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some nice junk and play from from LGD
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What da crit!?!??!?!?
Aegis snatcher professional
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very very very high level dota omg ...
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So good from the boys, glad I stayed up to watch it
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lgd kept falling for the spectre bait
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What a game. Sumail is a god.
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And now a rematch between NiP and EG. Are you not entertained?
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Cr1t, Sumail and S4 their initiation and the balls to dive into rosh pit.
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EG itemization is on point, tiny burst cancel by NW ulti, CW Crimson Guard + ulti makes Luna life so hard.
with silencer, CW and spectre ulti up, LGD had almost no way to win teamfight in late game.
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The stage is empty? or am i missing something?
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On November 17 2018 15:27 zergtat wrote:
EG itemization is on point, tiny burst cancel by NW ulti, CW Crimson Guard + ulti makes Luna life so hard.
with silencer, CW and spectre ulti up, LGD had almost no way to win teamfight in late game.
think tiny not going bkb screwed them too hard
you had silencer ult, spec ult to cancel blink, centaur stun, puck silence all to deal with
atleast with a bkb you can counter stun and get your combo off and burst down some heroes
hard game and eg played it super well by baiting spec and having everyone group up against him
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haha no booths or anything, what kind of 3rd world major is this
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It somehow seems exciting to see ppd destroy eg 2 series in a row.
Technically it's MC with 4 standins.
This standin situation really makes me question Liquid core synergy. Liquid 3 cores seem too greedy. Matu does create space but his space creation is through attracting attention with cancer heroes instead of going around killing heroes like a traditional pos 2.
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On November 17 2018 17:09 babysimba wrote:
It somehow seems exciting to see ppd destroy eg 2 series in a row.
Technically it's MC with 4 standins.
This standin situation really makes me question Liquid core synergy. Liquid 3 cores seem too greedy. Matu does create space but his space creation is through attracting attention with cancer heroes instead of going around killing heroes like a traditional pos 2.
I wonder what MC will report back to Liquid about PPD's thoughts on the current meta. Also, along the same vein, I wonder how much PPD has learned from talking to MC about how Liquid thinks about the current meta.
If it weren't for a balance patch on the horizon, the next time Liquid and NiP meet could be interesting, might still be despite the patch.
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Saksa stealing all ults except Global Silence is a joy to watch.
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I don't see NiP closing this out in the late game. Pretty sure EG are on a level above them in the late game.
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Games over if Morphling dies in this fight
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Messy haymakers in the lategame.
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Ace had SO MANY close calls in the last 10 minutes. Fuck
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jesus christ, this game, Saksa and MC mvps
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man ... i thought the LGD vs EG game was good ...
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both teams suck at this point.
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On November 17 2018 17:42 HaXxorIzed wrote:
Messy haymakers in the lategame.
Makes for the most exciting games though :D
On November 17 2018 17:26 Moobutt wrote:
I don't see NiP closing this out in the late game. Pretty sure EG are on a level above them in the late game.
This didn't age well, lol
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
That was quite the game 1 lol
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I really expected EG to out-perform NiP on buyback management in order to secure the win late.
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NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol
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On November 17 2018 17:55 uthgard wrote:
NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol
IDK 33 is really good, I'd say he's up there with MC
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On November 17 2018 17:53 Moobutt wrote:
I really expected EG to out-perform NiP on buyback management in order to secure the win late.
That Arteezy death while farming near SS was painful, and put them behind bb's for quite a while.
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On November 17 2018 17:57 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 17:55 uthgard wrote:
NiP would probably lost that game with their usual roster lol IDK 33 is really good, I'd say he's up there with MC
true, but he hasn't really proved himself in that kind of high tension late game situation before like MC
MC has the "clutch factor" for a lack of better word
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What a shambles from EG. Ace can just walk around and set up kills as he likes.
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Visage pick raped EG hard
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holy shit that Fly save on RTZ turned the game
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Nightmare and sunder, and now Nip are in trouble.
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ahahahaha wtf, hopefully the bet money was worth it for that throw BannedTwitchEmote
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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On November 17 2018 18:53 ShiaoPi wrote:
Fly coming in clutch
And a few frames of invisibility it seemed, NiP missed dust a few times this game.
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What the hell was this egg initiation?
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Hero birds creep skipping.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Uhhhh? NiP???!?
Can't afford those kind of shitty initiations
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Already tilted.
I'm guessing their first 322 was because someone made a call to keep EG busy around rosh pit while furion tried to push the bottom lane in. Then they just bought back and fed even more.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
Woke up to this
This is interesting
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lul that stunduration just beautiful
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On November 17 2018 19:06 PoulsenB wrote:
EG > EGG
EGGS > EG > EGG
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
This series is some great stuff
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could've been a big win if phoenix didn't fucked up...again
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ace lvl 25 soon, very important
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3% against power push team, ok
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Liquid with 4 standins really looks better than EG tho. They SHOULD take game 3.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
I really hope game 3 is not gonna end in a random stomp now
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How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win
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On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win
Or better yet:
1. Pick Arc Warden
2. Farm
3. Win
Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol.
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doesn't this NiP draft feel a bit less able to pick off in the mid game?
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honestly reflection is so stupid haha
steals natural order as well xd
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I mean, I'd be way more impressed if Terrorblade wasn't the hero he is.
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It's always annoying to not understand why they don't ban TB. I fully aknowledge they know better than I so it makes me feel stupid.
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On November 17 2018 19:38 Damned627 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win
Or better yet: 1. Pick Arc Warden 2. Farm 3. Win Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol.
I like it, it s a shame they re going down now in g3. Not sure why dota+ says NiP is the favored they re quite obviously in a hole
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On November 17 2018 20:22 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 19:38 Damned627 wrote:On November 17 2018 19:35 Nagvalk wrote:
How to win a Major:
1. Pick TB
2. Don't feed ridiculously
3. Win
Or better yet: 1. Pick Arc Warden 2. Farm 3. Win Btw this Liquid with 4 standins meme is going out of hand lol. I like it, it s a shame they re going down now in g3. Not sure why dota+ says NiP is the favored they re quite obviously in a hole
Storm Spirit fucks the evaluation hard
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i hope finally for a TB rework, this hero is allways useless or broken as fuck... mostly broken
so sick of seeing him all the time.
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NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.
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On November 17 2018 20:25 babysimba wrote:
NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.
Maybe im missing something, the way i see it if both teams play without any major mistakes EG wins this 100% of the time. NiP needs to capitalize on some big mistakes
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On November 17 2018 20:25 babysimba wrote:
NiP lineup is definitely better on paper late game, but it's not as ez to execute as TB.
But then rtz hits his reflection button and their late game is why better.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
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big plays by RTZ holy shit
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Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run.
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Ace doesn't even press his aura to push out lanes the entire game smh.
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On November 17 2018 20:34 Wintex wrote:
Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run.
We want a real icefrog patch, blow the meta.
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Yep, this major is going to Secret or VP
I love my boy Artour but there's no way he carries any game vs those two teams. EG struggles too much vs NIP with MC (credit to MC tho, what a god).
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well, a really good series overall, the 3 best teams will fight for the title in the end.
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On November 17 2018 20:37 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 20:34 Wintex wrote:
Honestly, I dont think ANYONE in the world understands why Valve allowed this god damn patch to continue for another minor major run. We want a real icefrog patch, blow the meta.
honestly fuck no
icefrog ruined dota with 6.82 rubberband garbage
he just had to introduce garbage and iterate instead of toning down void, tinker, viper and mekansm. 6.81b-d was the best.
all he has to do is destroy the hard carries and maybe rework some of them, because he's pushed the economy game to a point where it's dumb af compared to before.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Can't wait for Terrorblade to be dumpstered come 7.20
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The whole series came down to that nightmare by Fly in game 2 that allowed for the turnaround, NiP were playing really well with a good draft.
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TB got picked a lot but weird thing is his counters basically doesnt get picked or even banned,even in the game he lost. nobody is picking or banning necro,zeus,tinker etc. in this series. you can even just void+aa his ass. everyone seems to forgot what to do
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zeus will just get dumpstered mid agaisnt kunkka. necro is offlaner now and they needed initiator. the thing is nip depended on mc to initiate. Game 2 was saksa fault and the draft put it in a way that they dont have counter to bkb.
game 3 was just shit draft. i dont know what was ppd thinking but drow couldnt fight against tb with bkb. they still had no way to push through eg lineup.
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Really liked NiP's development this major, especially Fata's. He went from a non factor mid at Hamburg to a solid one I saw in the Main Event here.
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On November 17 2018 20:58 crocshark wrote:
zeus will just get dumpstered mid agaisnt kunkka. necro is offlaner now and they needed initiator. the thing is nip depended on mc to initiate. Game 2 was saksa fault and the draft put it in a way that they dont have counter to bkb.
game 3 was just shit draft. i dont know what was ppd thinking but drow couldnt fight against tb with bkb. they still had no way to push through eg lineup.
Drow lineup win lanes, split the map open with early towers and drow aura to push lane creeps in. Allow opportunities for catch on storm and sb drow. Teamfight backed up by ES, phoenix and ET armor negating aura. Well that was the game plan with that draft. Execution is another story.
You either win TB by controlling the entire game and end it early, or pick direct counters like heavy burst stuns lineups to deal with his sunder but risk TB getting out of control early because those heroes tend to be weaker in laning.
Sunder is the main reason why TB is such a broken hero. It makes it way too easy to execute compared to other carries.
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isn't OD also good against TB. i forgot about this hero
i think this is gg
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Nisha is ridiculously good at morphling
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nisha is still undefeated on morph
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
secret very much so the favorites to take the entire thing I would say
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They certainly looked like a better team, i mean after the phone-boot-knife-fight that EG v NiP was, this was fairly one sided.
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this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes
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On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes
It kinda feels like Puppey builds a team to be good in the TI patch and then Secret falls off after the first big patch
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why did solo play axe ? hes so bad at it.
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On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes
then what is matumba role ? who will play the initiator or the play maker to make space for miracle?
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On November 17 2018 22:24 crocshark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2018 22:12 Papercappu wrote:
this hard carry meta also favor them a lot though. can you imagine miracle playing major with these heroes then what is matumba role ? who will play the initiator or the play maker to make space for miracle?
how is this even a question? they're already spamming stuff like TB,spec or morph for miracle
how is ursa not picked or banned. it's so good for both teams here
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zai and getting solo killed, name a better duo this series
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Secret should've first pick centaur instead of AW tbh, especially considering that both AW and morph was available
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
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On November 17 2018 22:59 Zea! wrote:
Virtus Plowed
secrekt
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midone will be severely underfarmed if he keeps roaming
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Midone is already out of this game, but comeback mechanics are bs so he will get 20k in 1 fight and will be n1 networth 🤔
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Arc Warden and Ember Splitpush is disgusting!
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Rodjer has been really meh on vp for quite a while
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
god damn yapzor is so on point
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AW more disgusting than TB
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the difference in impact between both pos 4 is so big it's hillarious
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On November 18 2018 00:22 uthgard wrote:
the difference in impact between both pos 4 is so big it's hillarious
and so do pos 3
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can icefrog just ban or remove arc warden?
how is this hero balanced?
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EPT
PGL/Kuala Lumpur Major
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