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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
November 14 2018 04:23 GMT
#81
On November 14 2018 13:15 nVme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2018 12:59 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Gr8 b8 TnC. This Black^ and Bulldog cast is not so good lol. Holy shit Kuku.


i know black gets excited easily, but he needs to slow down his speech for one thing
and idk why bulldog keeps getting invited over others
edit: i’d rather have bkop tbh

Both of them are trying to fill in the hype caster and analyst role simultaneously, and it isn't working. They're constantly tripping over their words and shouting and blabbering for big plays or teamfights which isn't good. I don't feel either of them are a comprehensible high-energy caster who can follow a team fight and explain what happened clearly.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 14 2018 04:27 GMT
#82
Black and Bulldog can't do play by play but they have great insights especially bulldog. They are fun to listen to for comedic duo. I kind of agree they should stop play by play because it isn't working. Didn't expect TNC to comeback from that match at all. Spectre didn't have radiance and axe had dagger vanguard. How the fuck VG fucked that up. Good job on TNC and Kuku's insane play.
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 14 2018 04:33 GMT
#83
On November 14 2018 13:27 crocshark wrote:
Black and Bulldog can't do play by play but they have great insights especially bulldog. They are fun to listen to for comedic duo. I kind of agree they should stop play by play because it isn't working. Didn't expect TNC to comeback from that match at all. Spectre didn't have radiance and axe had dagger vanguard. How the fuck VG fucked that up. Good job on TNC and Kuku's insane play.


the spec was the strongest hero
they literally had like no dmg to kill a farmed spec
and even 7k gold behind i think the main problem is whatever happened to the comeback mechanics where one team fight can wipe out a huge lead
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 14 2018 04:34 GMT
#84
tnc prob pick spec again lol
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 14 2018 04:51 GMT
#85
great rotation from gabbi
haven’t seen a first chrono be that effective in a while
nVme
Profile Joined October 2010
952 Posts
November 14 2018 04:52 GMT
#86
this morph is gonna run into a lot of problems from a chrono + et + egg + ss disables
but tnc will prob choke as usual
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
November 14 2018 05:08 GMT
#87
TNC's game 3 is a balance between how hard Armel can carry vs how hard Kuku can try to throw. Game 1, Kuku's throw was too strong.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
November 14 2018 05:16 GMT
#88
VG is falling apart.

Also, as Grant mentioned early in the cast, a top 6 finish and qualifying for another Major puts you pretty likely to be locked for TI9.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4356 Posts
November 14 2018 05:31 GMT
#89
TNC just don't have the stones. Vici holding perfectly
Sucker for nostalgia
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
November 14 2018 05:33 GMT
#90
What an eggy bait
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
November 14 2018 05:45 GMT
#91
always rooting for the team going hg into buybacks + disgusting amounts of teamfight ults, good job on not throwing tnc
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 14 2018 05:55 GMT
#92
VG played really bad there and i don't get the death prophet pick. She's really bad midlane hero now. Back then she had just enough damage in teamfight, control and sustain. With all those nerfs, she's just not pickable material. Kuku did it again, pressuring bottom t3 and took it with its wards really hurt VG a lot. VG had to play around bottom lane and made roshaning almost impossible.

I felt like if the networth was more or less the same on both team, phoenix had to start the fight and followed by chrono. The only thing VG would do in that situation is to fall back as far as possible because the only hero who could reach the egg was death prophet.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
November 14 2018 06:26 GMT
#93
wow, that tp out from rtz and the save from Cr1t (maybe, if they really couldn't step in the bubble it didn't matter much anyway)... EG with the plays lol
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-14 06:54:59
November 14 2018 06:53 GMT
#94
Fnatic got 5 kills and a silencer buyback, 3 towers, and a rax for a tiny

That's a feels fucking bad for EG
rip
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-14 06:58:21
November 14 2018 06:57 GMT
#95
On November 14 2018 14:55 crocshark wrote:
VG played really bad there and i don't get the death prophet pick. She's really bad midlane hero now. Back then she had just enough damage in teamfight, control and sustain. With all those nerfs, she's just not pickable material. Kuku did it again, pressuring bottom t3 and took it with its wards really hurt VG a lot. VG had to play around bottom lane and made roshaning almost impossible.

I felt like if the networth was more or less the same on both team, phoenix had to start the fight and followed by chrono. The only thing VG would do in that situation is to fall back as far as possible because the only hero who could reach the egg was death prophet.

The DP pick was so confusing. Everything on VG's draft up to the last pick looked like it was setting up for an Ori Lina. And then they pick a worse hero that is worse for this draft, that Ori is also worse at playing.

Literally nothing about the DP pick makes any sense.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
November 14 2018 08:10 GMT
#96
EG has the whole map, but Hg will be difficult...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-14 09:25:59
November 14 2018 09:23 GMT
#97
So centaur is 19/25 now in the major. Insane win-rate on that hero.

Also EG first picking arc warden is interesting, I didn't have a chance to catch the draft panel, but was there any reasoning given (other than arteezy is obviously good on the hero)? Based on a cursory look on Dotabuff for the EG vs NiP/Forward/Fnatic, it seems that EG will pick AW if axe/io are out of the way (although io was first phase banned every game I think). Also in 3/4 games with AW they banned brood before picking AW (or picked AW then banned brood immediately after). The one time EG didn't ban brood with AW was game 3 against Forward, but maybe they just felt that it was a bad brood game at that point already. Also game 2 vs VG in the groups they left brood open vs AW, so it may be team specific (the opponent doesn't have a brood player), or it is already a bad brood game.
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crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
November 14 2018 12:03 GMT
#98
Arc warden is just completely op in the hand of rtz. Hes always known as afk farmer and the tempest double made it possible for him to jungling and do something at the same time. With 27k networth, he could kill almost anyone with his clone alone. its fucking insane.
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