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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 08 2016 07:56 GMT
#441
On June 08 2016 16:54 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 16:45 DucK- wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:36 Racket wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:33 Elurie wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:29 Racket wrote:
who would have thought a TB Medusa composition would work? well played Fnatic

Did it work because it was 2 ranged vs 2 melee cores?

Either way, it worked out way better for Fnatic when Mushi was on a carry mid instead of those pesky ganking mid.

Those two cores take a lot of farm for them to even come online. It is greedy enough to pick them, making them work so well so early is really hard.
The team played really well, it is not as easy as saying 2xRanged > 2xMelee.


Not really. Firstly both are able to obtain farm. Medusa solos decently, tb at safe lane free farm. Medusa stone gaze alone makes engaging Fnatic a difficult task, especially when backed up by ravage. A tb deals a shit load of damage if the enemy can't really control or burst him (protected by gaze ravage etc). Its unconventional draft, but it works well against Fnatic lineup.

Again I felt a timbersaw would have wrecked Fnatic. Gives LGD the burst they really craved. Tb can't deal with timber until late game. Only concern would be how well disruptor plays.

We have already seen TB alone comps and Medusa alone comps fail easily because the clock ticks hard for them. I am just impressed on how early and well they made them work together.
Saying they won purely because 2 ranged against 2 melee is a big enough advantage is quite lazy. Fnatic played really well.


Yea cuz Medusa has no damage alone, and TB can get focused alone. It's sort of a strange situation when both complemented each other well.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 08 2016 07:57 GMT
#442
On June 08 2016 16:56 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 16:54 Racket wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:45 DucK- wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:36 Racket wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:33 Elurie wrote:
On June 08 2016 16:29 Racket wrote:
who would have thought a TB Medusa composition would work? well played Fnatic

Did it work because it was 2 ranged vs 2 melee cores?

Either way, it worked out way better for Fnatic when Mushi was on a carry mid instead of those pesky ganking mid.

Those two cores take a lot of farm for them to even come online. It is greedy enough to pick them, making them work so well so early is really hard.
The team played really well, it is not as easy as saying 2xRanged > 2xMelee.


Not really. Firstly both are able to obtain farm. Medusa solos decently, tb at safe lane free farm. Medusa stone gaze alone makes engaging Fnatic a difficult task, especially when backed up by ravage. A tb deals a shit load of damage if the enemy can't really control or burst him (protected by gaze ravage etc). Its unconventional draft, but it works well against Fnatic lineup.

Again I felt a timbersaw would have wrecked Fnatic. Gives LGD the burst they really craved. Tb can't deal with timber until late game. Only concern would be how well disruptor plays.

We have already seen TB alone comps and Medusa alone comps fail easily because the clock ticks hard for them. I am just impressed on how early and well they made them work together.
Saying they won purely because 2 ranged against 2 melee is a big enough advantage is quite lazy. Fnatic played really well.


Yea cuz Medusa has no damage alone, and TB can get focused alone. It's sort of a strange situation when both complemented each other well.

Yep, I didn't expect that.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
June 08 2016 07:57 GMT
#443
On June 08 2016 16:54 blobrus wrote:
I think the pl is going to have trouble getting enough damage to kill LGDs cores.

actually dazzle is the only ez kill
this is a quote
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 08 2016 07:57 GMT
#444
Yea why isn't MMY playing Earth Spirit.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44163 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-08 08:00:21
June 08 2016 07:59 GMT
#445
Ok seriously why is PL picked here

On June 08 2016 16:57 DucK- wrote:
Yea why isn't MMY playing Earth Spirit.

Trust if a teammate says he can play "insert hero here" then you give him the hero.
this is a quote
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 08 2016 08:02 GMT
#446
I think Medu instead of PL would have been better.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 08 2016 08:02 GMT
#447
LGD STR gaming.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 08 2016 08:05 GMT
#448
That roll reminded me of my first earth spirit game
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4553 Posts
June 08 2016 08:06 GMT
#449
omfg what a blackhole
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
June 08 2016 08:06 GMT
#450
D MOTHERFUCKIN J
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#451
Sick hole.
korendir
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore259 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#452
DJGOD!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#453
I can do that too.
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#454
BRACK HOLEEEEE
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#455
holy crap that blaaack hoooole
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#456
Holy shit dj....
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#457
Who needs blink dagger when you can low ground 3-man blackhole?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 08 2016 08:07 GMT
#458
Wow that blackhole wp
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 08 2016 08:08 GMT
#459
Lmfao this earth spirit performance is really making me giggle
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
June 08 2016 08:08 GMT
#460
Chinese ES pretty shit
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