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On June 08 2016 16:40 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:38 Caladbolg wrote:On June 08 2016 16:36 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:33 ViZe wrote:
sep played so bad that he lost to manta medusa Manta first. I really can't criticize Black for getting triggered. The illusion damage amp simply isn't there that early on and the mana cost seriously takes a chunk out of your EHP. I find it questionable that the splitting to avoid stuns is more valuable than the raw HP approach Skadi first provides on top of the slow. Or even an early damage item that would help burst Alch down. Alch got 12 min radiance..I don't think of an item other than. Yasha who can damage alch early game except if u want her to go maelstrom first which is pretty bad.
For raw damage Yasha is eclipsed by crystalis. There's also Mask of Madness but even with max Mana Shield it's still problematic even with a point booster.
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On June 08 2016 16:36 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:33 Elurie wrote:On June 08 2016 16:29 Racket wrote:
who would have thought a TB Medusa composition would work? well played Fnatic Did it work because it was 2 ranged vs 2 melee cores? Either way, it worked out way better for Fnatic when Mushi was on a carry mid instead of those pesky ganking mid. Those two cores take a lot of farm for them to even come online. It is greedy enough to pick them, making them work so well so early is really hard. The team played really well, it is not as easy as saying 2xRanged > 2xMelee.
Not really. Firstly both are able to obtain farm. Medusa solos decently, tb at safe lane free farm. Medusa stone gaze alone makes engaging Fnatic a difficult task, especially when backed up by ravage. A tb deals a shit load of damage if the enemy can't really control or burst him (protected by gaze ravage etc). Its unconventional draft, but it works well against Fnatic lineup.
Again I felt a timbersaw would have wrecked Fnatic. Gives LGD the burst they really craved. Tb can't deal with timber until late game. Only concern would be how well disruptor plays.
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On June 08 2016 16:44 mutantmagnet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:40 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 08 2016 16:38 Caladbolg wrote:On June 08 2016 16:36 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:33 ViZe wrote:
sep played so bad that he lost to manta medusa Manta first. I really can't criticize Black for getting triggered. The illusion damage amp simply isn't there that early on and the mana cost seriously takes a chunk out of your EHP. I find it questionable that the splitting to avoid stuns is more valuable than the raw HP approach Skadi first provides on top of the slow. Or even an early damage item that would help burst Alch down. Alch got 12 min radiance..I don't think of an item other than. Yasha who can damage alch early game except if u want her to go maelstrom first which is pretty bad. For raw damage Yasha is eclipsed by crystalis. There's also Mask of Madness but even with max Mana Shield it's still problematic even with a point booster.
Mask of madness on Medusa against radi alch? And crystalis first item on dusa is what I will do in practice lobby
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Rofl the kiss cam trolling is hilarious.
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I was looking at another screen, what was with all that cheering?
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We have kiss cam in dota LANs now lmao
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It was decided when mushi just kept popping stone gaze at right times to freeze 2 or 3 LGD heroes..tb needed someone to initiate fights and Medusa and es allowed that with ravage followup
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We real sports now boys !
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On June 08 2016 16:45 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:44 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:40 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 08 2016 16:38 Caladbolg wrote:On June 08 2016 16:36 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:33 ViZe wrote:
sep played so bad that he lost to manta medusa Manta first. I really can't criticize Black for getting triggered. The illusion damage amp simply isn't there that early on and the mana cost seriously takes a chunk out of your EHP. I find it questionable that the splitting to avoid stuns is more valuable than the raw HP approach Skadi first provides on top of the slow. Or even an early damage item that would help burst Alch down. Alch got 12 min radiance..I don't think of an item other than. Yasha who can damage alch early game except if u want her to go maelstrom first which is pretty bad. For raw damage Yasha is eclipsed by crystalis. There's also Mask of Madness but even with max Mana Shield it's still problematic even with a point booster. Mask ofadness on Medusa against radi alch? And crystalis first item on dusa is what I will do in practice lobby
Mom provides more DPS than yasha, while its amp is negated somewhat as it occurs after mana shield reduction. Yasha is fine though. Manta is not.
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This DP is gonna get shut down hard.
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On June 08 2016 16:47 korendir wrote:
I was looking at another screen, what was with all that cheering?
Kisscam
making it awkward for just friends of opposite sex who just wanted to watch dotes lol
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DK is picked omg. Will fnatic create an upset?
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fnatic with the better draft it seems.
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On June 08 2016 16:45 Kamisamanachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:44 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:40 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 08 2016 16:38 Caladbolg wrote:On June 08 2016 16:36 mutantmagnet wrote:On June 08 2016 16:33 ViZe wrote:
sep played so bad that he lost to manta medusa Manta first. I really can't criticize Black for getting triggered. The illusion damage amp simply isn't there that early on and the mana cost seriously takes a chunk out of your EHP. I find it questionable that the splitting to avoid stuns is more valuable than the raw HP approach Skadi first provides on top of the slow. Or even an early damage item that would help burst Alch down. Alch got 12 min radiance..I don't think of an item other than. Yasha who can damage alch early game except if u want her to go maelstrom first which is pretty bad. For raw damage Yasha is eclipsed by crystalis. There's also Mask of Madness but even with max Mana Shield it's still problematic even with a point booster. Mask of madness on Medusa against radi alch? And crystalis first item on dusa is what I will do in practice lobby
Yeah I'm not feeling MoM either but Crystalis damage is way above yasha. Crystalis into point booster to eventual Skadi is a much better progression than Manta.
Hopefully game 3 is a great ending to this series.
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i didn't realize there were face cams
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On June 08 2016 16:45 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2016 16:36 Racket wrote:On June 08 2016 16:33 Elurie wrote:On June 08 2016 16:29 Racket wrote:
who would have thought a TB Medusa composition would work? well played Fnatic Did it work because it was 2 ranged vs 2 melee cores? Either way, it worked out way better for Fnatic when Mushi was on a carry mid instead of those pesky ganking mid. Those two cores take a lot of farm for them to even come online. It is greedy enough to pick them, making them work so well so early is really hard. The team played really well, it is not as easy as saying 2xRanged > 2xMelee. Not really. Firstly both are able to obtain farm. Medusa solos decently, tb at safe lane free farm. Medusa stone gaze alone makes engaging Fnatic a difficult task, especially when backed up by ravage. A tb deals a shit load of damage if the enemy can't really control or burst him (protected by gaze ravage etc). Its unconventional draft, but it works well against Fnatic lineup. Again I felt a timbersaw would have wrecked Fnatic. Gives LGD the burst they really craved. Tb can't deal with timber until late game. Only concern would be how well disruptor plays.
We have already seen TB alone comps and Medusa alone comps fail easily because the clock ticks hard for them. I am just impressed on how early and well they made them work together.
Saying they won purely because 2 ranged against 2 melee is a big enough advantage is quite lazy. Fnatic played really well.
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Why is best ES in China not playing ES.
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I think the pl is going to have trouble getting enough damage to kill LGDs cores.
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EPT
