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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1901
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1902
On June 07 2016 22:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


They won the last major. I'm pretty sure winning a major means you get a direct invite to TI (provided they don't change players now).

W33 and misery will glady accept the invite.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1903
On June 07 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:54 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


If TI is an invite based on the whole year (TI to TI), Secret went Top 2 in 2 out of 3 majors. Could be justified


TI invites are to the players. Not organizations. I'm not really sure why they would include organizational accomplishments in their invites to players.


Ok so let's do players:

RTZ/Universe: Top 3 in 2 Majors

PLD/Puppey/Envy: Top 2 and Top 1


It's the teams as players. You're missing the point completely. It's not based on some historical performance by players who aren't on the team anymore, it's by the performance of the current roster of players.


Didn't Newbee largely change between TI4 and 5?

The "players staying on a team" meme is a nonfactor now with roster locks. You're FORCED to stay on the same team or you're open qualifying.
LiquidDota Staff
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1904
On June 07 2016 22:55 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:54 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


If TI is an invite based on the whole year (TI to TI), Secret went Top 2 in 2 out of 3 majors. Could be justified


TI invites are to the players. Not organizations. I'm not really sure why they would include organizational accomplishments in their invites to players.


Ok so let's do players:

RTZ/Universe: Top 3 in 2 Majors

PLD/Puppey/Envy: Top 2 and Top 1


It's the teams as players. You're missing the point completely. It's not based on some historical performance by players who aren't on the team anymore, it's by the performance of the current roster of players.


Guess I really don't get the point, because this are not historical performances by players who left, it is the actual players on the team


Your point above cites organizational accomplishments. Your second point cites player accomplishments. You need to look at performance of the players in the current organization at the current roster.

That's the only meritorious way.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 13:56:59
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1905
You can justify all you want but there is no way Valve will not invite them for TI even if they place last in this major
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
June 07 2016 13:56 GMT
#1906
On June 07 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:54 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


If TI is an invite based on the whole year (TI to TI), Secret went Top 2 in 2 out of 3 majors. Could be justified


TI invites are to the players. Not organizations. I'm not really sure why they would include organizational accomplishments in their invites to players.


Ok so let's do players:

RTZ/Universe: Top 3 in 2 Majors

PLD/Puppey/Envy: Top 2 and Top 1


It's the teams as players. You're missing the point completely. It's not based on some historical performance by players who aren't on the team anymore, it's by the performance of the current roster of players.

There's absolutely no reason to invite Secret if they have won ONE series with their current roster. It'd be a disgrace to competitive integrity.


Which is pretty stupid at this point what with the attempt at rules for roster switching with the roster locks anyway.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 13:57 GMT
#1907
On June 07 2016 22:56 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


They won the last major. I'm pretty sure winning a major means you get a direct invite to TI (provided they don't change players now).

W33 and misery will glady accept the invite.


They better win this Major then.
LiquidDota Staff
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 07 2016 13:57 GMT
#1908
On June 07 2016 22:56 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
You can't perform well in two majors on the back of w33 and misery, kick them, and continue to blow dicks everywhere while reasonably expecting an invite to TI.


people gave misery so much shit, but mb its a hard team to offlane for. Too many cunts
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 07 2016 13:57 GMT
#1909
Secret can win this, lets see what hidden secret strats and special tactics they have for us.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 13:58:38
June 07 2016 13:58 GMT
#1910
On June 07 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote:
You can justify all you want but there is no way Valve will not invite them for TI even if they place last in this major



Yeah..the shekels kemal the robber brings to the valve are overwhelming .
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
June 07 2016 13:58 GMT
#1911
On June 07 2016 22:55 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:54 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:53 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 Vallelol wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


If TI is an invite based on the whole year (TI to TI), Secret went Top 2 in 2 out of 3 majors. Could be justified


TI invites are to the players. Not organizations. I'm not really sure why they would include organizational accomplishments in their invites to players.


Ok so let's do players:

RTZ/Universe: Top 3 in 2 Majors

PLD/Puppey/Envy: Top 2 and Top 1


It's the teams as players. You're missing the point completely. It's not based on some historical performance by players who aren't on the team anymore, it's by the performance of the current roster of players.


Guess I really don't get the point, because this are not historical performances by players who left, it is the actual players on the team

The point is you cant assume just because all the players on the team are good the team is good. Team chemistry and how they play together matter a lot. Secret with RTZ and Universe has been TERRIBLE. Unless they make a big run here they 100% don't deserve an invite to TI. Can you name any achievement this current roster has accomplished.
QO Feasting
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
June 07 2016 13:58 GMT
#1912
On June 07 2016 22:56 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
You can't perform well in two majors on the back of w33 and misery, kick them, and continue to blow dicks everywhere while reasonably expecting an invite to TI.

and yet Newbee was at TI5
rip
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
June 07 2016 13:58 GMT
#1913
On June 07 2016 22:56 babysimba wrote:
You can justify all you want but there is no way Valve will not invite them for TI even if they place last in this major

This is why we can't have nice things with dumpster teams getting free invites.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 07 2016 13:58 GMT
#1914
On June 07 2016 22:57 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:56 nojok wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


They won the last major. I'm pretty sure winning a major means you get a direct invite to TI (provided they don't change players now).

W33 and misery will glady accept the invite.


They better win this Major then.

They're top1 NA so they have this invite as for once EG won't take the NA invite as reigning champions.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
June 07 2016 13:59 GMT
#1915
Jacky x Puppey otp
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 07 2016 13:59 GMT
#1916
I want a video clip of Nahaz in his econ classroom. How does his students stand the way he talks? The way he cockily recite his stupid dota stats is so ridiculous and off putting.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
June 07 2016 13:59 GMT
#1917
JACKY YOU ARE THE CHOSEN ONE
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
June 07 2016 13:59 GMT
#1918
On June 07 2016 22:58 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:56 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
You can't perform well in two majors on the back of w33 and misery, kick them, and continue to blow dicks everywhere while reasonably expecting an invite to TI.

and yet Newbee was at TI5

They changed one player. lmao. And he left on his own terms
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
MetalMercury
Profile Joined January 2015
United States1161 Posts
June 07 2016 13:59 GMT
#1919
On June 07 2016 22:58 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:57 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:56 nojok wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


They won the last major. I'm pretty sure winning a major means you get a direct invite to TI (provided they don't change players now).

W33 and misery will glady accept the invite.


They better win this Major then.

They're top1 NA so they have this invite as for once EG won't take the NA invite as reigning champions.


Complexity can still take this title from them here; they aren't out yet either.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 07 2016 14:00 GMT
#1920
On June 07 2016 22:58 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2016 22:57 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:56 nojok wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:52 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:51 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:50 Papercappu wrote:
On June 07 2016 22:49 caiovigg wrote:
If secret end up losing this, the qualifier of the next major will probably (pls don't fuck this up valve) be insane with secret and EG. I think both teams will play more games of dota in the qualifiers alone than they did between dotapit and this major

theres no next major. next big tournament is TI & both EG & Secret will get invited

please justify a TS invite.


They won the last major. I'm pretty sure winning a major means you get a direct invite to TI (provided they don't change players now).

W33 and misery will glady accept the invite.


They better win this Major then.

They're top1 NA so they have this invite as for once EG won't take the NA invite as reigning champions.


More than likely, and if they have a good showing in this major they might get one of the middle of the pack direct invites. But them winning the last major on a different team is a nonfactor.
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