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Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
June 04 2016 08:48 GMT
#821
LGD invite not justified.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 04 2016 08:48 GMT
#822
EG is so bad at doing timing push strats.
Getting too old for this..
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 04 2016 08:49 GMT
#823
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 04 2016 08:49 GMT
#824
On June 04 2016 17:29 Azarkon wrote:
The moment they catch phantom lancer in a call, they can easily kill him with the heroes they have. It's actually a smart pick. And they have late game because Fear can stop any carry on the other side.

This is an excellent pick by PPD. It's all up to play of course, but they have everything they need.

LUL
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
June 04 2016 08:49 GMT
#825
The hope for Secret vs EG for last place in the major stays alive!
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#826
On June 04 2016 17:49 Nedereden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:29 Azarkon wrote:
The moment they catch phantom lancer in a call, they can easily kill him with the heroes they have. It's actually a smart pick. And they have late game because Fear can stop any carry on the other side.

This is an excellent pick by PPD. It's all up to play of course, but they have everything they need.

LUL

now now
dont salt his wound
-Terran-
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
June 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#827
On June 04 2016 17:49 spudde123 wrote:
The hope for Secret vs EG for last place in the major stays alive!

Praise RTZ for bringing us a new age of dota
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-04 08:51:31
June 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#828
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.

Unless they get some 4-5 man call, with all 5 members of TL being able to initiate within 0.5 seconds, they weren't going to win a team fight, especially when PL has buy back.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#829
On June 04 2016 17:49 Nedereden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:29 Azarkon wrote:
The moment they catch phantom lancer in a call, they can easily kill him with the heroes they have. It's actually a smart pick. And they have late game because Fear can stop any carry on the other side.

This is an excellent pick by PPD. It's all up to play of course, but they have everything they need.

LUL


And I stand by that. They were down in kills yet had one of the biggest leads we've seen in this tournament. Bad play lead to the loss, not the pick.
Nedereden
Profile Joined June 2013
777 Posts
June 04 2016 08:50 GMT
#830
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.

So youre saying they were outplayed then? Are you really Azarkon?
"Firefly piglet force staff chicken" - TobiWanKenobi TI3 2013
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 04 2016 08:51 GMT
#831
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 04 2016 08:51 GMT
#832
That last EG gave me a headache. Seriously I need to go rest now fml
Getting too old for this..
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 04 2016 08:52 GMT
#833
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.


Too bad you have mr.mage in the background casting out spells left and right disabling all of EG.
Getting too old for this..
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 04 2016 08:53 GMT
#834
On June 04 2016 17:52 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.


Too bad you have mr.mage in the background casting out spells left and right disabling all of EG.


And that's why you have BKB on both heroes needed to do this?
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 04 2016 08:54 GMT
#835
On June 04 2016 17:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:52 Danzo wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.


Too bad you have mr.mage in the background casting out spells left and right disabling all of EG.


And that's why you have BKB on both heroes needed to do this?


BKB can you only get you so far later in the game. Honestly, the biggest key moment the game was lost for EG was when Sumail was caught out clear a wave and was blinked by tide ult.
Getting too old for this..
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 04 2016 08:55 GMT
#836
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.

Yeah, but
1. It relies on aggressif getting caught
2. It relies on you being able to disengage and reengage when he buybacks. If you have committed, you will lose the fight as he will be able to dance around the axe and the TA will just become slowed, shat on etc.
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
June 04 2016 08:55 GMT
#837
On June 04 2016 17:54 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:53 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:52 Danzo wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.


Too bad you have mr.mage in the background casting out spells left and right disabling all of EG.


And that's why you have BKB on both heroes needed to do this?


BKB can you only get you so far later in the game. Honestly, the biggest key moment the game was lost for EG was when Sumail was caught out clear a wave and was blinked by tide ult.

Man I was SO sure he would be able to press shield and/or blink
The Bomber boy
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 04 2016 08:55 GMT
#838
On June 04 2016 17:53 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 17:52 Danzo wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:51 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:49 Azarkon wrote:
On June 04 2016 17:47 Zea! wrote:
Well, grats to EG for prolonging but this was a huge outdraft


It wasn't a throw but they were certainly in a huge lead and saying they couldn't have win with this pick is stupid.


They would have had to get an unreasonably good combo off. You have to throw too much on PL to kill him, which lets an invoker with the help of a ravage to do the rest.

Or you don't attack the PL, and he will beat any heroes 1 v 2 at the end, even 1 v 3.


All you need to kill phantom lancer is an axe call and two hits.


Too bad you have mr.mage in the background casting out spells left and right disabling all of EG.


And that's why you have BKB on both heroes needed to do this?

10 sec BKB is what keeps EG from falling apart
when its down to the regular 5, you see what happened already
-Terran-
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 04 2016 08:55 GMT
#839
end swiftly

i miss rick and morty
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
June 04 2016 08:56 GMT
#840
It wasn't a real outdraft. Axe is indeed a counter to PL but only before he reach critical threshold of hp. EG also decides to go with early game heroes like TA and Venge. They just failed to end the game in their timing window
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