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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 10:18 GMT
#1121
Is that replay screen trying to give people seizures?
LiquidDota Staff
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 10:18 GMT
#1122
The return of secert!!!!
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 03 2016 10:18 GMT
#1123
What are these drafts from Secret. Almost no lockdown, then you pick DP and Sven?

Each of the heroes are fine, but together you're expecting miracles from all of your cores to make it work.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
June 03 2016 10:19 GMT
#1124
Uni doing work with the Batrider
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
tm_invincible
Profile Joined December 2014
Vietnam220 Posts
June 03 2016 10:19 GMT
#1125
secret is back boys hehe
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 03 2016 10:20 GMT
#1126
On June 03 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 19:10 Atoissen wrote:
On June 03 2016 19:06 Pandemona wrote:
On June 03 2016 19:02 Dracolich70 wrote:
These analysts can't understand that placing 5 individual with star quality doesn't a great team make, and never did.

Pretty sure Real Madrid could have something to say about that....

Historically, Real Madrid should have won CL like every other year for last 20... But they havent. Theier Galcticos style has not been successfull in thropies. But its been a success in making them the biggest club in the world... + the 2 CL throphies last 3 years ofc makes a differnece, but they are not the same as before (Galcticos) imo

They either won league or win champions league they are more than successful for what they do. Since 1999 they have only had 3 season where they did not either win champions league or the league title, thats pretty outstanding

Well.. not to take to much away from RM, but they have played in La Liga... Look at who won La Liga the last 50 seasons... Its 90% Barca or RM... Before theier Galacticos style they won it 5 times ina row from 86-91. they won it 32 times in total since 1932... Meh, whatever...
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 10:20:43
June 03 2016 10:20 GMT
#1127
Turns out Spirit Siphon is still a spell.
LiquidDota Staff
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
June 03 2016 10:21 GMT
#1128
If they dont snowball this start.... its really is bottom of the barrel
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 10:24:56
June 03 2016 10:21 GMT
#1129
On June 03 2016 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 19:10 Atoissen wrote:
On June 03 2016 19:06 Pandemona wrote:
On June 03 2016 19:02 Dracolich70 wrote:
These analysts can't understand that placing 5 individual with star quality doesn't a great team make, and never did.

Pretty sure Real Madrid could have something to say about that....

Historically, Real Madrid should have won CL like every other year for last 20... But they havent. Theier Galcticos style has not been successfull in thropies. But its been a success in making them the biggest club in the world... + the 2 CL throphies last 3 years ofc makes a differnece, but they are not the same as before (Galcticos) imo

They either won league or win champions league they are more than successful for what they do. Since 1999 they have only had 3 season where they did not either win champions league or the league title, thats pretty outstanding
They play in a league where Barcelona and Real got the bulk of the TV money, and 90% of the teams have a budget on par with a championship side, while Barcelona and Real can pick from any side in the world.

As he said, Galacticos was never as successful, because team composition was not thought through, but just getting star players for shirt sales in mind - and precidency PR. Any successful team needs so-called water carriers to set up star players. Having 5 or 11(22) star players that just want to be the star will never work.

Atl. Madrid and Leicester are proofs of team success over star quality with team compositions.
LiangHao
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 10:23 GMT
#1130
Guys can we get a status update on that dire creep stack?
LiquidDota Staff
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
June 03 2016 10:24 GMT
#1131
On June 03 2016 19:10 Shergal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 18:55 Diavlo wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:47 Shergal wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:46 Danzo wrote:
You guys it's just the first day. This Secret has breathing room to improve.

Everyone can improve or recede, but what are we supposed to talk about? "Let's wait until the tournament ends before making judgements"? That's really boring

On June 03 2016 18:47 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On June 03 2016 18:45 Shergal wrote:
Universe getting exposed. Secret should've gone for Zai. Puppey's offlane always requires mechanical prodigies, something Universe isn't even close to being.


Rofl no. Universe has been slumping for 6+ months now but he's been mechanically great in the past. He's got the abilities somewhere in there but there's obviously some problem somewhere.

I disagree. Universe has never been a top-tier laner, not even while EG were dominating the scene. His best attritube is timing for initiation, but Puppey's team (and the current offlane in general, really) require a more complete game. Of course confidence has put him even below his real level, but that doesn't come out of nowhere. PPD always accounted for his weaknesses, Puppey expects him to account individually for the drafts' iffy spots; it's a complete reversal of the situation.

That's actually wrong, Universe was an absolutely top tier laner, especially in 1v2. He was a safe player and didn't often go for risky plays like iceiceice who could open the match right open or feed like an idiot but he is/was definitely very very good.


To me that's the definition of not top-tier. He can coast through a simple game but he can't gain advantages where there were none to begin with (which is what the top-tier players do). He's top-tier at other aspects of the game but for someone who has been playing professionally since Dota 1 and never made any waves outside of ppd's cozy leadership people really liked to inflate him as some sort of higher being who was above Dota.

Your definition of being a top tier laner is being risky? Universe gained plenty of advantage in lanes, especially in dangerous ones where others would feed.

As far as his abilities before ppd, he was a good player before (definitely the best Dignitas player) and he definitely improved in EG, maybe the team made him look better than he was but that can be said about pretty much anyone.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 10:24 GMT
#1132
What....those TPs and they couldn't land a shackle or anything?
LiquidDota Staff
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 03 2016 10:26 GMT
#1133
Dear casters,

The word "versing" is not a real one. Please stop saying "when you're versing a riki, you want to buy sentry wards". It sounds horrible, and most of you do it. This has been a public service announcement
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 10:26 GMT
#1134
Holy shit that ranged creep stole a big ancient ROFL
LiquidDota Staff
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 03 2016 10:29 GMT
#1135
WOO SECRET!
LiquidDota Staff
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
June 03 2016 10:29 GMT
#1136
This spec not having so much fun yet xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 03 2016 10:29 GMT
#1137
Secret needs to win this. The world needs Secret vs DC.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
June 03 2016 10:29 GMT
#1138
Secret is back?
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
June 03 2016 10:30 GMT
#1139
Well what do ya know. Secret are showings some signs of life.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
June 03 2016 10:30 GMT
#1140
Artour Babaev's Batrider? Never seen it... is he good?
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