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On February 10 2018 06:10 FuzzyJAM wrote:
If EE had played like Abed recently people would be calling for a new mid. But Envy teams just have Envy hatred.
I think the team is still fine. They're not going to win TI but they should at least make it there.
I hope so, tomorrow is the start of the EPICENTER SEA qualifiers, with only one slot for all of SEA, so it's gonna be a hard time going up against Mineski and TnC, provided they get out of groups, which they should
Also, reading Aui_2000's blog where he mentioned the Reddit bandwagoning of hate is pretty accurate, it's a shame it's like that, though
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they gotta fix whatever is wrong with their drafting because its very bad
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It's crazy to see how in both games they lost hard vs TnC, EE managed to be the only one with a >1 KDA, but yeah, the drafts were just not good, EE and 343 really need to step up their game in that regard
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On paper the draft weren't bad, not good but certainly not auto-lose, the problem come from how they chose to lane, in G1 they decided to go on an aggressive with specter/rubick/ET, Bat alone was able to handle it, freeing the support to go mid and f**k Abed over and over again.
Ever since Universe joined the team, they are losing pretty much every single early-game.
PS: it seems that Abed got inflected by EE's random bad play at the late-game
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EE is Dota 2's IdrA in that his approach to the game is so stubborn and rigid, which I think is why he's been on a constant downward trend since his peak at Shanghai. At this point, it's looking like Mineski will direct qualify to TI and TnC will take the other SEA spot, so unless Fnatic gets lucky with there being two qualified spots for SEA, I don't see them making TI this year. And even if there are two spots, I wouldn't put it past them to lose to a team like Geek Fam or Execration
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On February 13 2018 02:50 plasmidghost wrote:
EE is Dota 2's IdrA in that his approach to the game is so stubborn and rigid, which I think is why he's been on a constant downward trend since his peak at Shanghai. At this point, it's looking like Mineski will direct qualify to TI and TnC will take the other SEA spot, so unless Fnatic gets lucky with there being two qualified spots for SEA, I don't see them making TI this year. And even if there are two spots, I wouldn't put it past them to lose to a team like Geek Fam or Execration
There's for sure going to be at least two spots for qualification for SEA (even if Mineski gets invited), so I don't think they'll have to worry about availability of spots. That said, they could full well lose to Geek Fam or Execration in the TI qualifiers and sit it out from home if they don't manage to figure it out.
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Well, since Mineski dropped out of the DreamLeague qualifiers, Fnatic actually has a decent shot at winning, I'd say, as long as they can overcome their TnC kryptonite from the past two qualifiers
Fnatic should have considered that when getting rid of Ohaiyo and replacing him with Universe that they were getting rid of a player that has played at the top of SEA competition for years, right? Like, I totally understand wanting to get a better player but when that player doesn't know the teams in the region, it seems like an unintended consequence. Fnatic with Ohaiyo won like 60% of their games vs TnC but Fnatic with Universe only has won like 20% of their game vs TnC
Also, I read someone mention that the SEA teams that Fnatic scrim against are probably all sharing information with each other to beat Fnatic, which I can't blame them if that is the case
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On February 13 2018 07:31 plasmidghost wrote:
Well, since Mineski dropped out of the DreamLeague qualifiers, Fnatic actually has a decent shot at winning, I'd say, as long as they can overcome their TnC kryptonite from the past two qualifiers
Fnatic should have considered that when getting rid of Ohaiyo and replacing him with Universe that they were getting rid of a player that has played at the top of SEA competition for years, right? Like, I totally understand wanting to get a better player but when that player doesn't know the teams in the region, it seems like an unintended consequence. Fnatic with Ohaiyo won like 60% of their games vs TnC but Fnatic with Universe only has won like 20% of their game vs TnC
Also, I read someone mention that the SEA teams that Fnatic scrim against are probably all sharing information with each other to beat Fnatic, which I can't blame them if that is the case
It is way too early to use that statistic to say that Universe is not a fit for Fnatic. He barely started playing with them. Universe is consider one of the best offlaner and he comes with a lot of points so it was a no-brainer to add Universe.
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I think Fnatic will almost definitely get points at GESC Indonesia, the only good team there is VGJ.Thunder
I also see them getting fourth at DreamLeague, since there's almost no way them (or anyone else) can beat Secret, Liquid, or the Chinese qualifier team
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On February 17 2018 02:10 plasmidghost wrote:
I think Fnatic will almost definitely get points at GESC Indonesia, the only good team there is VGJ.Thunder
I also see them getting fourth at DreamLeague, since there's almost no way them (or anyone else) can beat Secret, Liquid, or the Chinese qualifier team
... and then Fanatic beat Secret at ESL One 
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Top 4 is pretty crazy. They really lucked out with the bracket but beating Secret is impressive. The first game in particular was a classy display.
I think any team left in the bracket would be favoured against them with the possible exception of the unknown quantity of EG. But they've shown they can beat anyone, and they're only two series away from first place...
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On February 23 2018 07:05 sCuMBaG wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2018 02:10 plasmidghost wrote:
I think Fnatic will almost definitely get points at GESC Indonesia, the only good team there is VGJ.Thunder
I also see them getting fourth at DreamLeague, since there's almost no way them (or anyone else) can beat Secret, Liquid, or the Chinese qualifier team ... and then Fanatic beat Secret at ESL One
I didn't expect them to beat anyone besides Na`Vi, I'm still in shock that they made top 4, now I can't wait for them to win the whole thing
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Fnatic dodging TL in the semis, EG/VP as opposition gives them a pretty solid shot at a top 2 finish. They sure need it...
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I really hope Fnatic plays EG so Uni can dumpster the team that kicked him
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Man a 3k team would have played better than Fnatic, hope they can get their shit together and step-up in game 2.
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EE just overthinks his drafts - how easily can he execute this game? Man, seeing Fnatic lose a shot at top 2 makes me so sad...
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Really need to win tomorrow. It's worth winning a Minor. Hopefully Liquid don't really care about it. But then Kuro is captain, so that seems unlikely.
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I'm pretty nervous about the games, I really don't think they can win
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Congraz Fnatic that gaining some points from the Major. Hope luck will always with you.
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On February 25 2018 15:46 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Congraz Fnatic that gaining some points from the Major. Hope luck will always with you.
Tasty, salty tears. No worries, Fnatic did quite well, and improved a lot since their last tournaments. They might even start get invited before Mneski if this keeps up!
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