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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On February 26 2018 06:15 plasmidghost wrote: Hopefully Fnatic can keep playing well, I think they'll get enough to qualify for TI at this rate They certainly look a lot better. Looked lost when Universe first came over, now things are looking much better. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On February 26 2018 11:49 the bear jew wrote: They certainly look a lot better. Looked lost when Universe first came over, now things are looking much better. Yeah, and hopefully they can make some more majors, it's a shame they didn't qualify for Bucharest or Epicenter or DAC but there are three more Majors they have a decent shout at qualifying for or being invited to, I think. Just gotta have good showings at DreamLeague and GESC Indonesia | ||
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Racket
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
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goody153
44115 Posts
On February 26 2018 17:15 Racket wrote: I cannot stop thinking that if EE played the pos5 his teams would be much more successful. Probably not unless they get an actually like Ace or somebody not just a "carry" then he switch to 5 position and abuse their carry to the limits. I doubt having just another carry would work out. | ||
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MasterBayShawn
Philippines12 Posts
On February 28 2018 08:02 goody153 wrote: Probably not unless they get an actually like Ace or somebody not just a "carry" then he switch to 5 position and abuse their carry to the limits. I doubt having just another carry would work out. There are quite a handful of good carries in SEA. Dreamocel, Gabbi, Skemberlu just to name a few. Though I still prefer for this team to stick around until TI. It's not like EE can magically become a better pos5 than PLD. | ||
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Racket
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goody153
44115 Posts
i don't think i've ever actually seen a universe interview and a long one even (don't worry about the filipino introduction .. the questions and answers are all english) | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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VvvV1251
Algeria142 Posts
Solo black hole kuro, get destroyed afterward. by SK's epicenter+ LS bomb. Solo back hole kuro again, get destroyed afterward by sk's epicenter+ LS bomb. it was pretty much the same fight, MC destroyed Universe during black hole while SK+LS destroyed Ursa+Gyro as soon as BKB end. Doing it one time it is fine, but losing a team-fight twice in the same way........ They need to level-up their decision making ASAP. | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
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VvvV1251
Algeria142 Posts
On March 23 2018 05:09 Aznupdown wrote: You forgot the mention the BM pick of an SS core. Seriously? In the past Shadow shaman was picked as 2, a surprise pick during the 4 protect 1 era, due to his pushing power, the team start grouping up as 4 and push tower as soon as he hit level 6, while the hard carries will use the space created and the gold from tower (same for the rest) to have a superior net-worth over his counter part for the high-ground push,sometimes it worked, other times it failed like today. Also pocket strat, out of the meta pick are common thing in DOTA. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On March 23 2018 05:09 Aznupdown wrote: You forgot the mention the BM pick of an SS core. Seriously? No way was that more BM than what Liquid pulled vs Fnatic at ESL | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
Concerning the last game, I don't think they really had any other choices in many fights than to solo black hole someone and blow them up. In a bunch of the fights Liquid had an aegis advantage, cheeses, refresher shard on SK, etc. Fights would have been much easier without those. Not sure if the early game needed to go as well as it did for Liquid. Also as far as I recall after the first base defence there seemed to be a time where Fnatic could just take control of the game but then they had some fights where Ursa and Enigma didn't yet have their BKBs and Liquid managed to narrowly win, kill Abed to slow him down and get the 2nd aegis. If Fnatic managed to delay at that point just a bit to get the BKBs and contest the rosh, game could have been far easier. Also in the later fights there were some really close moments like Universe barely missing a 2 man BH and only getting one, which then led to Fnatic clumping up to kill the Naix (who would have died earlier had the BH hit him) and GH getting a massive combo off. | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
On March 23 2018 07:35 plasmidghost wrote: No way was that more BM than what Liquid pulled vs Fnatic at ESL I agree it was not as BM as what liquid did at ESL, but liquid got punished for it. SS core is far from being meta unless you are playing 2k mmr games. | ||
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VvvV1251
Algeria142 Posts
Time to see if they can beat Liquid-1. | ||
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goody153
44115 Posts
Even with the improvements i'd say they still have alot of room to grow. They have great cohesion now but sometimes they do this spit decision thing Now the question is that are we gonna get another EE 2nd place meme or beat secret. | ||
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bigbadchen
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
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