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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44281 Posts
June 09 2018 05:12 GMT
#3901
Pretty sure it's at least 16 teams at TI. Probably more .
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 09 2018 08:18 GMT
#3902
On June 09 2018 13:15 Doneld G. wrote:
With Optic out of the Supermajor, the NA quals is stacked. EG needs to bring their A game, because both Optic and VJG.S is looking very scary.


EDIT: there's rumours swirling about the disbanding of VGJ.T (idk if this is true), but if it is, then Optic (9th in the DPC Ranking) could've been invited instead.


I'm not sure why VGJ.T would break up after locking down their TI invite, but weirder things have happened. VGJ.T will likely get rolled at TI, but maybe there was a huge break up among the team.

Still, NA is going to be a nasty fight. EG has an uphill battle. The individual skill is still top tier, but they have to find team coordination to beat any of Complexity, Optic or VGJ.Storm.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 09 2018 08:20 GMT
#3903
On June 09 2018 13:33 Sapaio wrote:
Does the open qual have sending, because it doesn't make sense if it have to me, so that is scary. Because only semi and final are BO3. So could meet good team in BO1.

How many teams will make it through each region? If only 1 then 14 teams only at TI.


Open Qualifiers have some seeding by the players that have done FaceIt stuff. So you'll normally get the "teams with a chance" not meeting for a long while.

There's no real hard-cheese right now, so it's actually a good place for the Meta for a huge set of qualifiers.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 09 2018 11:34 GMT
#3904
If VGT disband that is stupid, they have free ticket to TI lol, finish last for like $100,000 payday xd
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 09 2018 12:19 GMT
#3905
On June 09 2018 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
If VGT disband that is stupid, they have free ticket to TI lol, finish last for like $100,000 payday xd


I agree, though you never know if a fist fight didn't break out among a team. Weirder issues have cropped up about TI.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 09 2018 14:03 GMT
#3906
Good news is EG can build confidence going through the open. I remember a PPD interview a few years ago saying he would like to scrim against weaker teams to get in the winning mindset.
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 00:50:48
June 10 2018 00:49 GMT
#3907
On June 09 2018 23:03 Gaial wrote:
Good news is EG can build confidence going through the open. I remember a PPD interview a few years ago saying he would like to scrim against weaker teams to get in the winning mindset.


that is smart progressively wise while you work out the kinks in team chemistry and get a feel for it or get the momentum going but it sounds really cringy from a person with a previous history of winning TI. it sounds like a strong guy beating up weaker opponents to feel good about himself lmfao

on an entirely different note
Eg's recruiting strategy: More Farming or previous Carry/Mid Players needed. Even if they have to play support.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
June 10 2018 01:55 GMT
#3908
On June 09 2018 21:19 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
If VGT disband that is stupid, they have free ticket to TI lol, finish last for like $100,000 payday xd


I agree, though you never know if a fist fight didn't break out among a team. Weirder issues have cropped up about TI.

So what's this with VGT disbanding?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44281 Posts
June 10 2018 02:58 GMT
#3909
On June 10 2018 10:55 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 21:19 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On June 09 2018 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
If VGT disband that is stupid, they have free ticket to TI lol, finish last for like $100,000 payday xd


I agree, though you never know if a fist fight didn't break out among a team. Weirder issues have cropped up about TI.

So what's this with VGT disbanding?

I doubt they actually are but rotk did say that he is disappointed with the team. They came close many times but always got smashed when it mattered
this is a quote
Doneld G.
Profile Joined July 2017
61 Posts
June 10 2018 05:57 GMT
#3910
On June 09 2018 20:34 Pandemona wrote:
If VGT disband that is stupid, they have free ticket to TI lol, finish last for like $100,000 payday xd


Every single player on VGJ.T has earned an upwards of 100k (Sylar and DDC have won over 1 million), so it's not always about the money. Yes 100 grand is a lot, but these players are competing for the championship more than the money (altho the prize pool do matter too).
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
June 10 2018 11:03 GMT
#3911
On June 09 2018 17:18 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2018 13:15 Doneld G. wrote:
With Optic out of the Supermajor, the NA quals is stacked. EG needs to bring their A game, because both Optic and VJG.S is looking very scary.


EDIT: there's rumours swirling about the disbanding of VGJ.T (idk if this is true), but if it is, then Optic (9th in the DPC Ranking) could've been invited instead.


Still, NA is going to be a nasty fight. EG has an uphill battle. The individual skill is still top tier, but they have to find team coordination to beat any of Complexity, Optic or VGJ.Storm.


The day i read news where the general public thinks Complexity is an uphill battle for a team like EG, i think i've seen it all. (I haven't kept up with dota but jeeze that's a low blow)
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 16:44:10
June 10 2018 16:42 GMT
#3912
Valve throwing NA (and EG) a bone.

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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2018 18:01 GMT
#3913
TOP 3 BABY!!!!!!!!!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 20:11:03
June 10 2018 19:33 GMT
#3914
Wait what? 24+team Ti incoming
EDIT: NVM, actual EG boost
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
June 11 2018 11:29 GMT
#3915
On June 11 2018 04:33 LemOn wrote:
Wait what? 24+team Ti incoming
EDIT: NVM, actual EG boost


I get this to 18 teams, 8 direct invites plus 10 qual teams. Just NA bias in qual so EG get almost free indirect invite
GO OG
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 11 2018 15:51 GMT
#3916
On June 11 2018 20:29 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2018 04:33 LemOn wrote:
Wait what? 24+team Ti incoming
EDIT: NVM, actual EG boost


I get this to 18 teams, 8 direct invites plus 10 qual teams. Just NA bias in qual so EG get almost free indirect invite


There's normally 18 teams at TI, so that isn't too surprising. EG now has a lot of room for error but can still make it.

However, it's not going to be some cake walk, and they really have to figure out a way to end games. They'll have trouble with T3 NA teams if they don't.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
June 11 2018 18:21 GMT
#3917
Well that is nice from valve, to give NA 3 qualifier slots. The region without a team in the Top 8 btw. EG are worse then optic and vg.j right now, but who else could take that 3rd spot? Col and immortal are not good enough, lucky EG xD
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
June 11 2018 18:26 GMT
#3918
On June 12 2018 03:21 hunter_x wrote:
Well that is nice from valve, to give NA 3 qualifier slots. The region without a team in the Top 8 btw. EG are worse then optic and vg.j right now, but who else could take that 3rd spot? Col and immortal are not good enough, lucky EG xD


Why should a region having a team in top 8 matter at all? NA teams won minors btw. No CIS or Europe team except VP, Liquid, or Secret did.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
June 11 2018 18:33 GMT
#3919
Noxville did an interesting invite distribution based on dpc points and number of teams

https://medium.com/@Noxville/ti8-regional-qualifier-distribution-e15caeeb2ef2

Found it a very interesting read, some data might change your pov as well.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 11 2018 18:34 GMT
#3920
On June 12 2018 03:21 hunter_x wrote:
Well that is nice from valve, to give NA 3 qualifier slots. The region without a team in the Top 8 btw. EG are worse then optic and vg.j right now, but who else could take that 3rd spot? Col and immortal are not good enough, lucky EG xD


Depends on how they do the Regional stage. For 3 Invites, we can probably expect Bo2 Round Robin, followed by a 2-loss Elimination bracket. Each region always ends up a little different, given number of Teams in the Regional and amount of slots.

NA probably does Round Robin, with the top going through, then a 2-loss bracket for the last two slots. Given 8 teams in the Regional, that'll put Top 1 straight to TI8, bottom 3 eliminated, then a bracket of 4 for the last two spots. Which is exactly what happened last year for SEA Qualifiers.
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