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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 11 2018 18:54 GMT
#3921
On June 12 2018 03:34 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 03:21 hunter_x wrote:
Well that is nice from valve, to give NA 3 qualifier slots. The region without a team in the Top 8 btw. EG are worse then optic and vg.j right now, but who else could take that 3rd spot? Col and immortal are not good enough, lucky EG xD


Depends on how they do the Regional stage. For 3 Invites, we can probably expect Bo2 Round Robin, followed by a 2-loss Elimination bracket. Each region always ends up a little different, given number of Teams in the Regional and amount of slots.

NA probably does Round Robin, with the top going through, then a 2-loss bracket for the last two slots. Given 8 teams in the Regional, that'll put Top 1 straight to TI8, bottom 3 eliminated, then a bracket of 4 for the last two spots. Which is exactly what happened last year for SEA Qualifiers.


This is what I expect too. NA regionals last year did this too; winner of BO1 Round Robin is direct invite, then a bo3 elimination for 2nd slot (only 2 invites).
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 11 2018 21:51 GMT
#3922
On June 12 2018 03:54 Gaial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2018 03:34 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On June 12 2018 03:21 hunter_x wrote:
Well that is nice from valve, to give NA 3 qualifier slots. The region without a team in the Top 8 btw. EG are worse then optic and vg.j right now, but who else could take that 3rd spot? Col and immortal are not good enough, lucky EG xD


Depends on how they do the Regional stage. For 3 Invites, we can probably expect Bo2 Round Robin, followed by a 2-loss Elimination bracket. Each region always ends up a little different, given number of Teams in the Regional and amount of slots.

NA probably does Round Robin, with the top going through, then a 2-loss bracket for the last two slots. Given 8 teams in the Regional, that'll put Top 1 straight to TI8, bottom 3 eliminated, then a bracket of 4 for the last two spots. Which is exactly what happened last year for SEA Qualifiers.


This is what I expect too. NA regionals last year did this too; winner of BO1 Round Robin is direct invite, then a bo3 elimination for 2nd slot (only 2 invites).


Probably Bo1, but it might be Bo2. 7 vs 14 games for each team. However, the Main Qualifier period is a lot longer this time. There's 8 Days allotted for Main Qualifiers, which really points to Bo2 as being more likely. Also, last year, all of the Mains were up to 10 teams, while this year it is 8 teams or less.

Pretty clear sign for a much extended group phase. Or maybe we get Group phase for seeding, then 2-Loss Bracket the rest of the way.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 12 2018 17:38 GMT
#3923
On June 12 2018 03:33 Pontual wrote:
Noxville did an interesting invite distribution based on dpc points and number of teams

https://medium.com/@Noxville/ti8-regional-qualifier-distribution-e15caeeb2ef2

Found it a very interesting read, some data might change your pov as well.

Yeah exactly, the math checks out, it just people look at it and rage because for some reason TeamSpirit is now a top tier team because they beat EG 2-0 and CIS region is very strong right now. 2 Invites to Sea is basically TNC and Fnatic get in for free as well but no one mentions that xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
June 12 2018 18:20 GMT
#3924
People love to hate EG, its a thing... Just like Liquid is always the good guys, It was like this in SC2 and it is like this in Dota2
But friends, better to be hated than indifferent.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Doneld G.
Profile Joined July 2017
61 Posts
June 12 2018 19:52 GMT
#3925
When is the open quals starting? I need my dose of EG dota.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 12 2018 20:13 GMT
#3926
Two days I think
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 13 2018 07:33 GMT
#3927
Thursday it all begins all over the world. 14th June > 17th June. 2 Days per Open Qualifier.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
June 13 2018 19:29 GMT
#3928
lots of Visage spam for artour the past ~36 hours

s4 seen playing Mag and Puck

sumail seen playing qop and lesh

cr1t seen playing WR and nature's prophet

of course all this could be meaningless, but it's information
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
June 13 2018 20:53 GMT
#3929
On June 13 2018 03:20 Atoissen wrote:
People love to hate EG, its a thing... Just like Liquid is always the good guys, It was like this in SC2 and it is like this in Dota2
But friends, better to be hated than indifferent.


well it's understandable. TL always had a policy for professionalism, and they were always the underdogs as it felt like since way back when. doesn't help you have the name "evil" in your organizational title and people you let in your team are allowed more freedom to curse, rant and say questionable things. but hey that's why we like em.
neozxa
Profile Joined August 2011
Indonesia545 Posts
June 14 2018 12:14 GMT
#3930
I mean the only problem most people have with EG is probably SumaiL and artour maybe to a lesser extent at this point.
Keep moving forward
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 14 2018 13:35 GMT
#3931
On June 14 2018 04:29 theqat wrote:
lots of Visage spam for artour the past ~36 hours

s4 seen playing Mag and Puck

sumail seen playing qop and lesh

cr1t seen playing WR and nature's prophet

of course all this could be meaningless, but it's information


What they should be spamming. In NA, those are going to be core picks around the main NA Meta. Since Misery made support NP meta, it's a staple in NA and something to abuse.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
June 14 2018 15:39 GMT
#3932
On June 13 2018 03:20 Atoissen wrote:
People love to hate EG, its a thing... Just like Liquid is always the good guys, It was like this in SC2 and it is like this in Dota2
But friends, better to be hated than indifferent.


Well Idra is probably one of the most disliked personalities around. The arrogance of Sumail without actually winning anything.

On June 14 2018 22:35 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2018 04:29 theqat wrote:
lots of Visage spam for artour the past ~36 hours

s4 seen playing Mag and Puck

sumail seen playing qop and lesh

cr1t seen playing WR and nature's prophet

of course all this could be meaningless, but it's information


What they should be spamming. In NA, those are going to be core picks around the main NA Meta. Since Misery made support NP meta, it's a staple in NA and something to abuse.


Cr1t has been playing a lot of Chen and Willow too.

I'm glad Arteezy is back on the Visage. Even with Fear on the team, I think his Visage is better than Sumails' or Fears'
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
June 14 2018 22:12 GMT
#3933
i like idra, but i cant stand after TI5 sumail
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-15 08:40:37
June 15 2018 08:38 GMT
#3934
What happened to qualifiers then? Stopped after they beat that pizza team, then i went onto faceit/liqqypedia to check stuff and i can't see anything?

The whole tournament got restarted?

Oh it was on Reddit, the patch broke GC and the Faceit bots, thus disqualifying teams who weren't AFK. So rescheduling.
On a positive note hopefully the bracket is better, the bracket yesterday was awful. Had VGstorm and EG in same half!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 15 2018 13:15 GMT
#3935
On June 15 2018 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
What happened to qualifiers then? Stopped after they beat that pizza team, then i went onto faceit/liqqypedia to check stuff and i can't see anything?

The whole tournament got restarted?

Oh it was on Reddit, the patch broke GC and the Faceit bots, thus disqualifying teams who weren't AFK. So rescheduling.
On a positive note hopefully the bracket is better, the bracket yesterday was awful. Had VGstorm and EG in same half!


Bracket was fine. They'd have met in the Ro4, with 3 of the top 4 qualifying. So it was seeded properly. Redoing Day 1 could actually make the bracket worse. We'll find out when it goes active in a few hours.

Either way, there's not much worry about EG, VGJ.Storm or Complexity making it to Regionals. Wasn't a good year for T3 NA stacks.
Doneld G.
Profile Joined July 2017
61 Posts
June 15 2018 13:23 GMT
#3936
does this mean the matches EG played are nullified?
melkor3
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria50 Posts
June 15 2018 15:45 GMT
#3937
On June 15 2018 22:23 Doneld G. wrote:
does this mean the matches EG played are nullified?

Yes
The One and Only
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 15 2018 18:15 GMT
#3938
On June 15 2018 22:15 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2018 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
What happened to qualifiers then? Stopped after they beat that pizza team, then i went onto faceit/liqqypedia to check stuff and i can't see anything?

The whole tournament got restarted?

Oh it was on Reddit, the patch broke GC and the Faceit bots, thus disqualifying teams who weren't AFK. So rescheduling.
On a positive note hopefully the bracket is better, the bracket yesterday was awful. Had VGstorm and EG in same half!


Bracket was fine. They'd have met in the Ro4, with 3 of the top 4 qualifying. So it was seeded properly. Redoing Day 1 could actually make the bracket worse. We'll find out when it goes active in a few hours.

Either way, there's not much worry about EG, VGJ.Storm or Complexity making it to Regionals. Wasn't a good year for T3 NA stacks.

Thought grant said on stream they would meet in RO16.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-16 00:57:21
June 16 2018 00:51 GMT
#3939
EG playing so well in game 1 vs VGS!!!!!
Back to objective based dota, win the lanes, win the game!]
Beautiful game 1 win !

Whoever wins this is basically in the groups because they play either ixmike stack or some random other stack in bo3 for place.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
June 16 2018 00:56 GMT
#3940
Ah shucks, missed game 1, glad it was a nice one though!
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