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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 19:28:39
November 19 2018 19:24 GMT
#197261
multicast midas?
it works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 20:17:02
November 19 2018 20:12 GMT
#197262
Seems good overall
ganking seems more worth for the xp but sitting in lane for denies/stacking = more gold
just don't know how gankable the tier 1 towers are now

Self damage no longer disables things like Clarity, Bottle, Blink, etc pudge buff + don't have to buy tranqs now probably

also tranqs not disabled by creeps + extra jungle money is nice

also Kaya + Sange ogre item lol, wait ogre is actually core now
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
November 19 2018 20:15 GMT
#197263
Replaced Drunken Haze with Cinder Brew. Covers a target 400 AoE with alcohol, slowing them by 25% and causes them to have a 20/25/30/35% chance to attack themselves instead of the target. Lasts 7 seconds. If the targets are hit by any fire based spells (including immolation from your Fire Spirit), the duration will refresh and they will ignite and burn for 10/25/40/55 DPS. Cooldown: 20/18/16/14. Manacost: 50. Self attack is not lethal
The following heroes have fire element damage: Dragon Knight, Jakiro, Phoenix, Axe, Doom, Ember Spirit, Brewmaster, Lina, Ogre, Batrider, Wraith King, Clinkz, Invoker, Warlock, Underlord, and Huskar

This is some Pokemon shit, except with alcohol as an effect.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 20:23:29
November 19 2018 20:17 GMT
#197264
btw that hero has 80% 460% crit
brew is going to get nerfed for a year

what AXE ability has a fire element?

e. the safelanes look a lot more gankable, maybe mid too
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 19 2018 20:20 GMT
#197265
I guess battle hunger? idk seems very odd
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 20:28:55
November 19 2018 20:24 GMT
#197266
btw ogre can midas an entire creepwave, alch vs ogre meta, heard it here first

On November 20 2018 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
I guess battle hunger? idk seems very odd

yeah it's battle hunger
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7755 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 20:32:11
November 19 2018 20:25 GMT
#197267
this update is insane, maybe too insane even

edit: I'm gonna wait with playing until the most broken stuff gets patched
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 19 2018 20:34 GMT
#197268
Kaya & Sange seems really good

A ton of great stats for Storm Spirit
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 19 2018 20:42 GMT
#197269
On November 20 2018 05:34 Faruko wrote:
Kaya & Sange seems really good

A ton of great stats for Storm Spirit

Them secret EG buffs!
passive quaranstream fan
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 20:55:15
November 19 2018 20:43 GMT
#197270
Ogre can actually multicast all targeted items,even solar crest which doesn't work with grimstroke, can't wait for someones entire team to get nullified or hexed or silenced.
Also bloodstone can now give like 1k health regen for 2 seconds.

PA has built in smoke, roaming PA is back on the menu

e. my only reservation with this patch is the return of status resistance and changing debuff durations
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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-20 10:50:34
November 19 2018 20:44 GMT
#197271
Jesus christ this patch is insane

Also so funny that bounty steals gold lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 19 2018 21:03 GMT
#197272
Bounty stealing 120 gold per jinada sounds fun as hell

Tried to play a game for the first time in months but for some reason I have 650ping to us west. Never had good download speed but shit ping before :/
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 21:17:09
November 19 2018 21:09 GMT
#197273
Holy Locket seems like a pudge item.
phase boots are like a pseudo PL passive, heroes with no good escape will just get run down from 900 range if you have any slow on you
heroes like a sb and pudge can get a million hits in with OoV and phase boots
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
November 19 2018 22:01 GMT
#197274
Force staff overriding pounce is the greatest change ever. Well not entirely but it's still pretty good.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 19 2018 22:02 GMT
#197275
Joaquin Phoenix's joker is lookin fairly jack nicholson-y
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Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
November 19 2018 22:09 GMT
#197276
Did they break dota again whats happening
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 22:28:55
November 19 2018 22:28 GMT
#197277
I wanna see a surged, stampeded (with aghs upgrade preferably) bloodseeker breaking the ms records lmao
passive quaranstream fan
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
November 19 2018 22:48 GMT
#197278
Welp, got properly dominated by doom et and meepo in my first game.
Doom has like 15 regen lvl1 with devour or something like that. Meepo is also unkillable. Game was over in 20 minutes.

OD's passive didn't seem to work.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 19 2018 23:23 GMT
#197279
So I have a very vague "analyse anything with stats and write a report on it", was thinking about doing something with dota. Opendota has a great query tool, but I have no real idea what I feel like analysing at the moment.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 19 2018 23:50 GMT
#197280
alright this rubick has to be a mistake holy shit is that broken
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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