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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 27 2018 21:26 GMT
#193861
On July 28 2018 05:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Thats... not how law works. At all.

ehm. I'm not disputing that. Still I do root for the good cause side that I put p6 on to have the more convincing argument.
Is that more to your liking?
passive quaranstream fan
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 27 2018 21:37 GMT
#193862
On July 28 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
We liberated 10 cats from a shitty owner who didn’t treat them very well, so I consider myself on the side of the angles.

When I read the first post I thought it was the petting zoo case.
kiss kiss fall in love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 27 2018 21:58 GMT
#193863
On July 28 2018 06:37 intotheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2018 06:00 Plansix wrote:
We liberated 10 cats from a shitty owner who didn’t treat them very well, so I consider myself on the side of the angles.

When I read the first post I thought it was the petting zoo case.

This one was way less of a nightmare.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2817 Posts
July 27 2018 22:59 GMT
#193864
On July 28 2018 06:25 Faruko wrote:
the dude running half life on ESA

is fucking sick, what the fuck


Half life 2 was my favourite speedgame to watch for a long time. Nowadays its less elegant ABH and a lot more super technical angled prop-clipping but still a glorious speedrun.

Half life 1 is hilarious to try yourself because bunnyhopping is insane and you'll feel like the speedrunners are cheating with how fast they can move.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-28 05:42:55
July 28 2018 04:38 GMT
#193865
On July 27 2018 17:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Oy eieio if i came by nyc around like 3rd week of august would you have time to hang?

Hell yeah dude

Would anyone like a life update about how I lost a lot of money on a bet

its a brag post but its interesting
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 28 2018 06:01 GMT
#193866
Ayy bhopping, that was my first script in cs. It was pretty simple before Valve removed the command "special" in ~2008 to crack down on bhop abusers:

bind "SPACE" "+bhop"
alias +bhop "alias special @bhop;@bhop"
alias -bhop "alias special"
alias @bhop "special;wait;+jump;wait;-jump"

Then you just held down space and never skipped a jump. You also had "duck jumping" or "russian jump" that became popular from our friends in the east abusing a script like:

bind "MOUSE4" "crun"
alias w wait
alias w2 "w; w"
alias w5 "w2; w2; w"
alias w10 "w5; w5"
alias w20 "w10; w10"
alias crun "+duck; wait; -duck; wait; +duck; w20; w10; w; w; -duck

In the HL1 game engine you can technically spam duck/crouch perfectly while running forward without any loss of movement speed. The thing is that 1) You make a lot less noise than running normally, 2) you bounce up and down like crazy and your hitbox becomes weird in your benefit.

So you'd just use this running around barely making any noise and pass corners with your model spazzing out without people being able to hit you properly. Since scripting was illegal in competitive play and you can bind the same command to multiple hotkeys people started binding mwheelup and mwheeldown to crouch and basically achieve the same result by just spamming the mousewheel up and down.

I don't remember if Valve ever touched that but it was banned by tournaments eventually. cs 1.6 gotta be one of the most abused multiplayer games. You also had shit like abusing 16 bit smokes to see through them easier. You can also switch from OpenGL and throw a smoke by wooden doors. If you crouch the door will be bugged and you can see under it.

You also have the console command gl_picmip (same as r_picmip in older quake) that basically turns the map textures into clay. This gives a huge advantage in dark areas of the map and to see through smokes and vents like on de_nuke. Or endless brightness and gamma abuse. Or the network exploits through console commands that makes your model skip frames in the eyes of other players. Or abusing the net_graph i/o to see when other players are nearby lol.

What a game.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-28 07:11:10
July 28 2018 06:57 GMT
#193867
I know a lot of the HL1 speedrunners because a good chunk of them are also involved in 1.6/CSGO KZ climb communities (also known as Kreedz Climbing). The top KZ players put HL speedrunners to shame in terms of movement, although there's obviously more to speedrunning HL than just the movement.

I like watching HL2 more because of the insane full map skips. They look so fun
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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 28 2018 07:41 GMT
#193868
I wasn't really into kz or surf but I managed to complete kz_cargo once. That was a real bitch to complete.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 28 2018 07:45 GMT
#193869
On July 28 2018 13:38 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2018 17:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Oy eieio if i came by nyc around like 3rd week of august would you have time to hang?

Hell yeah dude

Would anyone like a life update about how I lost a lot of money on a bet

its a brag post but its interesting

yes pls
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-28 08:06:53
July 28 2018 07:56 GMT
#193870
On July 28 2018 16:41 Gosi wrote:
I wasn't really into kz or surf but I managed to complete kz_cargo once. That was a real bitch to complete.

Cargo was so bad it got removed from the global map pool lmao. You can stilll play it but no times register on the API. I played that map when I was fairly new and got lost like 30 times. I feel bad that it’s your only KZ experience.

I have around 1500 hours in CSGO KZ servers. Even run my own globally approved servers these days. Epoxide is really into it if anyone here knows him from TL. Stancel used to KZ a bit too.

Edit: yea I don’t surf either
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-28 08:14:55
July 28 2018 08:14 GMT
#193871
I feel like such a pleb for only playing CS1.0
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 28 2018 08:30 GMT
#193872
On July 28 2018 16:56 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2018 16:41 Gosi wrote:
I wasn't really into kz or surf but I managed to complete kz_cargo once. That was a real bitch to complete.

Cargo was so bad it got removed from the global map pool lmao. You can stilll play it but no times register on the API. I played that map when I was fairly new and got lost like 30 times. I feel bad that it’s your only KZ experience.

I have around 1500 hours in CSGO KZ servers. Even run my own globally approved servers these days. Epoxide is really into it if anyone here knows him from TL. Stancel used to KZ a bit too.

Edit: yea I don’t surf either

Cargo wasn't my only kz map don't worry. :D

But I played kz_climbers or longjumps when killing time in between games sometimes. They were pretty chill.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-28 09:14:27
July 28 2018 08:37 GMT
#193873
my random brag post

sadly its not about money Im having a catastrophically bad salmon season. oh well.

But im super involved in regional fish politics and its a gubernatorial election year and I had fairly exclusive meetings today (6 people invited) with both the sitting governor (who i voted for) and the chief republican candidate (who there is no way in hell id vote for). Man those things are so pointless. The borough mayor happened to be at the one and that guy is so fucking stupid that he made my active shitlist of politicians that I shall have to attempt to do something about.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
July 28 2018 08:42 GMT
#193874
On July 28 2018 17:14 PoulsenB wrote:
I feel like such a pleb for only playing CS1.0

Did you play it back in 2000 at release or LAN much later? Either way that's pretty dank.

1.5 and the older versions had so many fun exploitable mechanics lol. Like crosshair on awp. Usp having straight air recoil. Fast switching between sniper rifle and gun/knife gave you zero delay between your shots and they would always be straight if you noscoped. Otherwise your first shot was the only one that was guaranteed to be straight. If you jumped and switched to deagle in the air your first shot would also be straight instead of being affected by the air recoil.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
July 28 2018 08:53 GMT
#193875
played CS i think from beta 5 or 7.
never was any good tho
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 28 2018 09:37 GMT
#193876
On July 28 2018 13:38 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2018 17:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Oy eieio if i came by nyc around like 3rd week of august would you have time to hang?

Hell yeah dude

Would anyone like a life update about how I lost a lot of money on a bet

its a brag post but its interesting

Yaaayyyyyy
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
July 28 2018 09:41 GMT
#193877
On July 28 2018 17:42 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2018 17:14 PoulsenB wrote:
I feel like such a pleb for only playing CS1.0

Did you play it back in 2000 at release or LAN much later? Either way that's pretty dank.

1.5 and the older versions had so many fun exploitable mechanics lol. Like crosshair on awp. Usp having straight air recoil. Fast switching between sniper rifle and gun/knife gave you zero delay between your shots and they would always be straight if you noscoped. Otherwise your first shot was the only one that was guaranteed to be straight. If you jumped and switched to deagle in the air your first shot would also be straight instead of being affected by the air recoil.

I played it like in 2001 in internet cafes with friends and at home with bots, I got so good at one point from playing with bots that I then rekt my friends at a cafe and they were like wtf how is this loser so good lmao
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
July 28 2018 13:22 GMT
#193878
Cs_assault was a top tier map
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
July 28 2018 13:47 GMT
#193879
On July 28 2018 16:45 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2018 13:38 eieio wrote:
On July 27 2018 17:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Oy eieio if i came by nyc around like 3rd week of august would you have time to hang?

Hell yeah dude

Would anyone like a life update about how I lost a lot of money on a bet

its a brag post but its interesting

yes pls

I lost $500 betting that someone couldn't drink a bottle of wine in under 11 seconds (they drank it in 9.29 seconds)
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TL+ Member
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 28 2018 13:53 GMT
#193880
betting a weeks pay on random shit damn
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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