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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 28 2018 23:21 GMT
#192921
Speaking of soccer... can anyone explain why the fuck offsides is a thing in it? It always irritated me that it basically forced worse positioning.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 28 2018 23:22 GMT
#192922
On June 29 2018 08:20 SKC wrote:
A country that watches baseball has no right to call any sport boring.

I don't actually care much for most actual sports. Curling can be fun, as can Tennis I guess.

I would agree baseball and golf are both much more boring than football.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 28 2018 23:23 GMT
#192923
Because the game would be really stupid without it. It would be far wose with a striker always sitting inside the box waiting for a ball.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
June 28 2018 23:25 GMT
#192924
On June 29 2018 08:21 Nevuk wrote:
Speaking of soccer... can anyone explain why the fuck offsides is a thing in it? It always irritated me that it basically forced worse positioning.


would be way too difficult to defend if forwards could just stand wherever they wanted and wait for the ball when people can kick it the whole field. Similar to the blue line in hockey.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 28 2018 23:28 GMT
#192925
It's also for a similar reason why you need limitations on passing forward in rugby or handegg. How to deal with that kind of stuff was an ancient problem and different kinds of football used different methods, but all of them have to have something.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 29 2018 00:15 GMT
#192926
Yeah a big reason soccer wont take off in the us is bcuz its hard to wring money out of
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
June 29 2018 00:29 GMT
#192927
On June 29 2018 08:19 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 08:14 2009 wrote:
isnt it kinda dead in your country tho

Not exactly. No one watches it, but it's a really, really common sport for people to play when young. It's mostly thought of as a kids game, as no one really pays attention to it after High School. I played it until 12, and hated every second of it. Too much pointless running.

The corporations here don't push it as hard because it's harder to wring it out for ad money than American handegg (which is best described as a series of commercials interspersed with people literally beating the brains out of each other). If the viewership keeps falling for the NFL due to all the concussion shit (really, no one should play that) then I can see us moving towards rugby or real football instead. White people don't really watch basketball after the college level.

i kinda meant teddy but your post was literally 5 secs before mine, gotta throw that shade at the germans yknow
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
June 29 2018 03:42 GMT
#192928
Poor Germans
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 06:03:19
June 29 2018 06:01 GMT
#192929
On June 29 2018 08:01 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 07:53 Nevuk wrote:
On June 29 2018 07:28 OmniEulogy wrote:
Scoring is only difficult because teams barely get 3 decent shots at the net in a game. I think it's more about 5~ players trying to score on 8 that creates the issue.

I dunno, the minimum theoretical advantage is only +1 (the goalie). It might be really stupid to not have any defenders, but there's no rules against it as far as I can remember. Hockey has plenty of goals scored with a similar issue (a defender's advantage).

Pretty much anything to make scoring easier would probably make the sport a lot less random and boring.

So does futsal.

Something that applies to 5-6 players teams in a small field won't necessarily apply to a huge field with 11 players. You won't have 10 players attacking against 11 players defending. There is just no room for them and it's would be a terrible strategy.

I was confident Germany would win as soon as one of their players had to leave the court..

On June 29 2018 08:14 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 08:13 teddyoojo wrote:
Mfw when PPL Talk about Football Like ITS dying instead of being the biggest Sport in the world

Honestly americans

lol, I don't think it's dying. I just think it's boring.

Especially at very high levels of play. Amateur games are a lot more entertaining

Can't agree. High level play is a joy to watch.
The top teams are just so far out of reach of the other professionals that they look so bad in comparison. Imo
passive quaranstream fan
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
June 29 2018 10:01 GMT
#192930
High school for gamers:



This is awesome lol
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
June 29 2018 10:57 GMT
#192931
So I think I'll buy the Switch tomorrow. Hopefully it's as amazing as everyone is saying.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 29 2018 11:09 GMT
#192932
It is, but...
There's one mindblowing game and one very good game that are exclusives. The others are too expensive for ports in my opinion.
Though they're really good games at times, I'm hesitant to pay 40 euros for a game that's 15 on steam (non cartridge).

Mario rabbits or tennis or smash is nothing to me unfortunately.
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 11:13:41
June 29 2018 11:12 GMT
#192933
I want something handheld so that I can play a game without sitting in a chair (I have a really cheap Ikea chair for my PC and it sucks, prolly messed up my back a bit lol). Shovel Knight and Enter the Gungeon should last me a while for that purpose
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 29 2018 11:28 GMT
#192934
On June 29 2018 20:12 PoulsenB wrote:
I want something handheld so that I can play a game without sitting in a chair (I have a really cheap Ikea chair for my PC and it sucks, prolly messed up my back a bit lol). Shovel Knight and Enter the Gungeon should last me a while for that purpose

Games i can recommend unless you already played some of them on PC:
Breath of the wild, Super mario odyssey, Splatoon 2, Mario kart 8, Donkey kong, Hollow Knight, Celeste, Darkest dungeon, Mario+Rabbids, Golf Story and probably something i'm forgetting
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 29 2018 11:35 GMT
#192935
Odyssey is played with the joy cons detached though. Keep that in mind.
The gameplay mechanics are fantastic I think.
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
June 29 2018 11:38 GMT
#192936
I have Hollow Knight on PC, I should play it again someday... Darkest Dungeon looks tempting but I'm not sure if I should play stressful games like that haha
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 11:43:01
June 29 2018 11:42 GMT
#192937
On June 29 2018 20:35 Artisreal wrote:
Odyssey is played with the joy cons detached though. Keep that in mind.
The gameplay mechanics are fantastic I think.

You can easily play odyssey handheld exclusively. I played the game from start to finish 80% handheld and 20% pro controller, no joy cons needed.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 29 2018 11:59 GMT
#192938
Well. you certainly can, but it is pretty fun with the joycons detached. havent had the chance to play with a pro controller (or non handheld) yet.
which is a reason why i played odyssey just until the + Show Spoiler +
frozen desert boss
. No screen to play it on is kinda crappy with the joycons detached.

I should've been clearer in me statement.

Also senpai6 surely has some games to add to the list. I would've gone for mariokart as well if I didn't have to buy another pair of joycons for 4 person lan play.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 29 2018 12:09 GMT
#192939
Wait why am i blocked by wil wheaton on twitter
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-29 12:20:33
June 29 2018 12:19 GMT
#192940
On June 29 2018 20:28 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 20:12 PoulsenB wrote:
I want something handheld so that I can play a game without sitting in a chair (I have a really cheap Ikea chair for my PC and it sucks, prolly messed up my back a bit lol). Shovel Knight and Enter the Gungeon should last me a while for that purpose

Games i can recommend unless you already played some of them on PC:
Breath of the wild, Super mario odyssey, Splatoon 2, Mario kart 8, Donkey kong, Hollow Knight, Celeste, Darkest dungeon, Mario+Rabbids, Golf Story and probably something i'm forgetting

Steamworld dig 2 and Heist, Golf Story, Xenoblade Chronicles 2

YS8 is out if you like action rpg games

Octopath in 2 week (CAN'T FUCKING WAIT)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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