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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 10 2015 21:57 GMT
#15561
I thought Beesa said safelane Blood is awful. There isn't anything wrong with offlane blood.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 10 2015 21:58 GMT
#15562
BS is much better at starting out in the jungle than taking up mid or safe, and in most pubs you can get away with that greed

axe is still prolly better tho
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 21:58:58
March 10 2015 21:58 GMT
#15563
On March 11 2015 06:55 l3loodraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 06:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
holy shit can u imagine if valve gave different amounts of MMR depending on if u were dire or radiant instead of fixing the rosh area etc?
league is so hilarious actually
hold on, that's a thing in league? different points depending on which side you're on?

It's not that you get different MMR, it's that blue side advantage is considered when matching games (i.e. red side will have slightly higher MMR players to balance out blue side map/draft advantage).

On March 11 2015 06:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
axe is still prolly better tho

I mean, that argument applies to a lot of heroes, lol.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
March 10 2015 21:59 GMT
#15564
superiormoba is actually balanced by crackheads lmfao
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 22:01:58
March 10 2015 22:01 GMT
#15565
@yango
from what i heard thats not it, you literally just get more MMR if u win as dire than as radiant.
but I dont' know much about league
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 10 2015 22:01 GMT
#15566
Nah its just balanced by Morello who fucked up GW1
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 22:04:20
March 10 2015 22:04 GMT
#15567
On March 11 2015 06:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 06:58 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
axe is still prolly better tho

I mean, that argument applies to a lot of heroes, lol.

i don't know too many heroes that start out in the jungle as efficiently as BS and axe. apparently there's that one finnish wisp that owned EE, but that seems like a dire jungle only thing (i guess bs is better in dire jungle too, but not by as much). there's chen... and then i dunno
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 10 2015 22:04 GMT
#15568
On March 11 2015 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
@yango
from what i heard thats not it, you literally just get more MMR if u win as dire than as radiant.
but I dont' know much about league

no he's right, unless things have changed since S3
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 10 2015 22:04 GMT
#15569
Enigma?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 22:06:54
March 10 2015 22:05 GMT
#15570
oh yea i forgot about enigma, he always slips my mind for some reason. anyway, point remains that BS is probably on that tier of jungling efficiency atm. i still think bs-zeus or other nuker combos can be pretty friggin strong in pubs.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 10 2015 22:06 GMT
#15571
On March 11 2015 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
@yango
from what i heard thats not it, you literally just get more MMR if u win as dire than as radiant.
but I dont' know much about league

>questioning yango about league
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 22:06:36
March 10 2015 22:06 GMT
#15572
On March 11 2015 07:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
oh yea i forgot about enigma, he always slips my mind for some reason.
because you cannot see into the void
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
March 10 2015 22:08 GMT
#15573
On March 11 2015 07:01 Shaella wrote:
Nah its just balanced by Morello who fucked up GW1

What the foc? Not like Izzy was any good at it lel
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 10 2015 22:09 GMT
#15574
On March 11 2015 07:06 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
@yango
from what i heard thats not it, you literally just get more MMR if u win as dire than as radiant.
but I dont' know much about league

>questioning yango about league

>questioning yango about any game with complicated mechanics
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 10 2015 22:09 GMT
#15575
On March 11 2015 07:08 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 07:01 Shaella wrote:
Nah its just balanced by Morello who fucked up GW1

What the foc? Not like Izzy was any good at it lel

its actually funny cause monks butchered GW1's PvP so hard he carried that healing hate over to league
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 10 2015 22:12 GMT
#15576
The best part is that somehow on a map that is just one lane for all random all mid that's 100% symmetrical, blue side still wins 57% of the time in superiormoba
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
March 10 2015 22:13 GMT
#15577
On March 11 2015 07:09 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 07:08 dismiss wrote:
On March 11 2015 07:01 Shaella wrote:
Nah its just balanced by Morello who fucked up GW1

What the foc? Not like Izzy was any good at it lel

its actually funny cause monks butchered GW1's PvP so hard he carried that healing hate over to league


oh god i remember him writing this huge essay about why tf2 blows because of the existence of medics
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 22:14:25
March 10 2015 22:13 GMT
#15578
On March 11 2015 07:12 Kupon3ss wrote:
The best part is that somehow on a map that is just one lane for all random all mid that's 100% symmetrical, blue side still wins 57% of the time in superiormoba

I thought people blamed that on viewpoint advantage lol

or isometric advantage or whatever people call it idk.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 10 2015 22:15 GMT
#15579
On March 11 2015 07:13 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 07:09 Shaella wrote:
On March 11 2015 07:08 dismiss wrote:
On March 11 2015 07:01 Shaella wrote:
Nah its just balanced by Morello who fucked up GW1

What the foc? Not like Izzy was any good at it lel

its actually funny cause monks butchered GW1's PvP so hard he carried that healing hate over to league


oh god i remember him writing this huge essay about why tf2 blows because of the existence of medics

Morello HATE HATE HATES healing

Granted i kinda agree in the MMO sense but medics are fun and essential as hell in TF2
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 10 2015 22:21 GMT
#15580
so is healing in gw1
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