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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 23 2015 00:19 GMT
#46301
I mean, NFL players get to keep playing after they punch their girlfriend in an elevator. Why not Dota, right?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#46302
cuz korok brings no money home also he isnt very good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 00:24:35
June 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#46303
On June 23 2015 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 08:16 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:13 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:56 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:46 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
azarkon responded guys

he linked me a yahoo answers q/a to tell me what a model is

he's still using model in the wrong context

lmao


idk he's being pretentious as all hell but I'm not sure it's totally off-base.

He's really just using it as a synonym for "hypothesis", and I you see that usage all the time in scientific literature, whether or not it's technically correct. I've probably done it myself once or twice.


let's assume his opinion constitutes a model for a moment. models have to have a mechanism. what is the mechanism here?

in addition, how can his "model" be refuted? Secret and EG players are higher skilled, and it has nothing to do with the meta..ok so how do you back that up? what constitutes skill?

all he states is that western teams have won games in teh past 6 months, that's really it.

btw erasme, you think you could have linked a timestamp, frenchie? i was unimpressed bc you ate every skill up until you turned around and killed WR and mag. nice one.


I'm not defending his actual argument. I said it was a hypothesis, I didn't say it was a good or testable one. It's probably still a model though.

I suppose his mechanism is that quick adaptation is delivering better results than a generally higher baseline skill level. Again, not saying I agree with any part of that, or any of the underlying assumptions. The issue is with the assumptions, though, not on the technicality of whether or not it's a model.

This is far too much text for this thread.


ya but a hypothesis alone isn't a model. a model is used to explain something, e.g. western teams having more skill. he does nothing to illustrate that other than say "they win games" where you have a million different variables.

I just read that thread. Interesting stuff, guys.
Are you a math/science teacher? Because that's the vibe I"m getting.


math so you can probably understand why it grinds my gears lol

e: just got done with the world's heaviest team holy shit http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1575337464
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#46304
On June 23 2015 09:15 SKC wrote:
There is the issue that wifi in prison isn't that good.

concrete sucks for wifi lolol
© Current year.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 23 2015 00:27 GMT
#46305
On June 23 2015 09:23 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:16 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:13 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:56 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:46 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
azarkon responded guys

he linked me a yahoo answers q/a to tell me what a model is

he's still using model in the wrong context

lmao


idk he's being pretentious as all hell but I'm not sure it's totally off-base.

He's really just using it as a synonym for "hypothesis", and I you see that usage all the time in scientific literature, whether or not it's technically correct. I've probably done it myself once or twice.


let's assume his opinion constitutes a model for a moment. models have to have a mechanism. what is the mechanism here?

in addition, how can his "model" be refuted? Secret and EG players are higher skilled, and it has nothing to do with the meta..ok so how do you back that up? what constitutes skill?

all he states is that western teams have won games in teh past 6 months, that's really it.

btw erasme, you think you could have linked a timestamp, frenchie? i was unimpressed bc you ate every skill up until you turned around and killed WR and mag. nice one.


I'm not defending his actual argument. I said it was a hypothesis, I didn't say it was a good or testable one. It's probably still a model though.

I suppose his mechanism is that quick adaptation is delivering better results than a generally higher baseline skill level. Again, not saying I agree with any part of that, or any of the underlying assumptions. The issue is with the assumptions, though, not on the technicality of whether or not it's a model.

This is far too much text for this thread.


ya but a hypothesis alone isn't a model. a model is used to explain something, e.g. western teams having more skill. he does nothing to illustrate that other than say "they win games" where you have a million different variables.

I just read that thread. Interesting stuff, guys.
Are you a math/science teacher? Because that's the vibe I"m getting.


math so you can probably understand why it grinds my gears lol

e: just got done with the world's heaviest team holy shit http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1575337464

I almost asked "which player were you" but then figured it out.
Makes sense why faulty arguments would be annoying if you're a math teacher.
kiss kiss fall in love
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 23 2015 00:28 GMT
#46306
On June 23 2015 09:23 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 09:17 IntoTheheart wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:16 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 08:13 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:56 BluemoonSC wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:46 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2015 07:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
azarkon responded guys

he linked me a yahoo answers q/a to tell me what a model is

he's still using model in the wrong context

lmao


idk he's being pretentious as all hell but I'm not sure it's totally off-base.

He's really just using it as a synonym for "hypothesis", and I you see that usage all the time in scientific literature, whether or not it's technically correct. I've probably done it myself once or twice.


let's assume his opinion constitutes a model for a moment. models have to have a mechanism. what is the mechanism here?

in addition, how can his "model" be refuted? Secret and EG players are higher skilled, and it has nothing to do with the meta..ok so how do you back that up? what constitutes skill?

all he states is that western teams have won games in teh past 6 months, that's really it.

btw erasme, you think you could have linked a timestamp, frenchie? i was unimpressed bc you ate every skill up until you turned around and killed WR and mag. nice one.


I'm not defending his actual argument. I said it was a hypothesis, I didn't say it was a good or testable one. It's probably still a model though.

I suppose his mechanism is that quick adaptation is delivering better results than a generally higher baseline skill level. Again, not saying I agree with any part of that, or any of the underlying assumptions. The issue is with the assumptions, though, not on the technicality of whether or not it's a model.

This is far too much text for this thread.


ya but a hypothesis alone isn't a model. a model is used to explain something, e.g. western teams having more skill. he does nothing to illustrate that other than say "they win games" where you have a million different variables.

I just read that thread. Interesting stuff, guys.
Are you a math/science teacher? Because that's the vibe I"m getting.


math so you can probably understand why it grinds my gears lol

e: just got done with the world's heaviest team holy shit http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1575337464

ask a-god to script it in matlab and simulate it 1000 times
that way we'll know the odds of EG/Secret winning and bet real money accordingly
© Current year.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 23 2015 00:31 GMT
#46307
if it was a european prison maybe he could get a computer but I wouldnt count on a virginia prison letting inmates do much more then watch tv and work out
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 23 2015 01:06 GMT
#46308
bluemoon is experimenting with the bloodseeker abuse model of playing dota
posting on liquid sites in current year
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 01:11:06
June 23 2015 01:08 GMT
#46309
On June 23 2015 10:06 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
bluemoon is experimenting with the bloodseeker abuse model of playing dota


im not sorry for moving faster than the speed of light to and from kills

my only death last game was the result of me not getting to press bkb button because i was dealing with 500 ping spikes

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1575393431

i dont plan on making radiance a thing, its for a challenge, but boy is it working/funny.

the hero is just so retardedly fun lmao
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 23 2015 01:15 GMT
#46310
jesus whatiship is awful at pr
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
June 23 2015 01:17 GMT
#46311
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1575375442
level 1 sk jungle into a 29 minute blink flames me for losing game cause i built euls lmfao
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 23 2015 01:21 GMT
#46312
that mjollnir though
posting on liquid sites in current year
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 23 2015 01:23 GMT
#46313
On June 23 2015 10:21 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
that mjollnir though


according to the dotabuff model of shadowfiend builds, with a 67.84% win rate, mjollnir is clearly a strong item choice on shadow fiend
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 23 2015 01:29 GMT
#46314
On June 23 2015 10:15 andyrau wrote:
jesus whatiship is awful at pr

What part? The part where he confirmed the arrest or that everyone who mattered also knew?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 23 2015 01:31 GMT
#46315
On June 23 2015 10:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 10:15 andyrau wrote:
jesus whatiship is awful at pr

What part? The part where he confirmed the arrest or that everyone who mattered also knew?

that statement was awfully done.

standard gerg
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 23 2015 01:41 GMT
#46316
HighgroundTV Gerg here! Im here to confirm that our talented Wifestrangler will be playing at this years TI! I have already talked to Valve on the matter and reached an agreement that in favor for their support for Korok, i'll stop composing angry tweets related to how they're killing DotA.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 23 2015 01:52 GMT
#46317
will a steam controller be worth it? what do you guys think
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 23 2015 01:52 GMT
#46318
my buddy who tested it at pax east said it was the shit
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 23 2015 01:54 GMT
#46319
On June 23 2015 10:41 Kuroeeah wrote:
HighgroundTV Gerg here! Im here to confirm that our talented Wifestrangler will be playing at this years TI! I have already talked to Valve on the matter and reached an agreement that in favor for their support for Korok, i'll stop composing angry tweets related to how they're killing DotA.

Gerg doesn't even play dota this is a FARCE
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 23 2015 01:54 GMT
#46320
On June 23 2015 10:52 BluemoonSC wrote:
will a steam controller be worth it? what do you guys think

my model: keyboard/mouse is better than steam controller
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