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xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
May 01 2014 10:07 GMT
#105281
This belongs more to SQSA but what exactly does this position 4 WK buy and what's the skillbuild? Sounds interesting to play
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 01 2014 10:14 GMT
#105282
It's possible to Jungle Ursa with just tangos and a stout shield, but it's really uncomfortable to go straight morbid mask :x
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Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 12:25:46
May 01 2014 10:16 GMT
#105283
Why not? The mitigation is enough and you don't need a ring of protection or quelling blade. Sure you might want to suicide if it's faster than going to base, but it's stable enough for farming compared to the old two rings build-up. It really isn't just about rushing Rosh.

Oops ignore this post I thought he meant tango and stout shield into morbid mask not straight up morbid mask.
Erase and improve
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 01 2014 10:17 GMT
#105284
How do custom icons and animations work? Are they activated only with the whole set or with a special item? I love the effects of EG Shaker set (who i play in 85% of my matches) but would prefer another totem.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 01 2014 10:21 GMT
#105285
On May 01 2014 19:17 smr wrote:
How do custom icons and animations work? Are they activated only with the whole set or with a special item? I love the effects of EG Shaker set (who i play in 85% of my matches) but would prefer another totem.

They are generally tied to a specific item. Unfortunately, for the new EG earthshaker set, it's the totem. Same for the Alliance abaddon set, the icons are tied to his sword.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
May 01 2014 10:27 GMT
#105286
On May 01 2014 19:21 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 19:17 smr wrote:
How do custom icons and animations work? Are they activated only with the whole set or with a special item? I love the effects of EG Shaker set (who i play in 85% of my matches) but would prefer another totem.

They are generally tied to a specific item. Unfortunately, for the new EG earthshaker set, it's the totem. Same for the Alliance abaddon set, the icons are tied to his sword.


Booo : (
Thanks for the fast answer!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 01 2014 10:32 GMT
#105287
On May 01 2014 19:07 xAdra wrote:
This belongs more to SQSA but what exactly does this position 4 WK buy and what's the skillbuild? Sounds interesting to play

Treads, wand, blink. After that it's usually blademail or vlads. Max stun first, aura second, sometimes take 1 value point in crit, take ult on 6/11/16.
super gg
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
May 01 2014 10:41 GMT
#105288
medusas range is pretty sick actually
huh
u gotta farm
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 01 2014 10:52 GMT
#105289
On May 01 2014 19:41 Ru ba wrote:
medusas range is pretty sick actually
huh


Yeah, but I wouldn't change the build order still
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 10:57:22
May 01 2014 10:55 GMT
#105290
Idk I was just commenting because I played her 2 times in my life and never again up till now.
I'm used to my agi carry having complete garbage range.
u gotta farm
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 01 2014 10:57 GMT
#105291
1 point in wk crit isnt exactly a value point.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
May 01 2014 11:59 GMT
#105292
On May 01 2014 18:40 xAdra wrote:
(Could be a slowpoke statement): Elder Titan set finally out! Was prepared to give Volvo my $$$, but then I searched it up on youtube and realized how meh the set is.


I got it the first time i open the chest. Pretty meh and look like blizzard moba champions
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 01 2014 12:19 GMT
#105293
On May 01 2014 19:07 xAdra wrote:
This belongs more to SQSA but what exactly does this position 4 WK buy and what's the skillbuild? Sounds interesting to play

You buy treads, wand, blademail, blink, soul ring, stuff like that and in lategame you transition into the 4th core.

max stun obligatory and then max aura 2nd (but dont put points in it unless you want to start pushing).

Fun thing is that one of the best combos I've had with WK support was playing with terrorblade (and playing against it was so hard), the lifesteal aura is really darn good and your slow works well with reflection.

Though valve did stealth nerf support WK by reducing armor by 1 and improving crit, the icefraud telling us to carry and not support with the KING
In the woods, there lurks..
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 01 2014 12:38 GMT
#105294
On May 01 2014 19:07 xAdra wrote:
This belongs more to SQSA but what exactly does this position 4 WK buy and what's the skillbuild? Sounds interesting to play

Similar to carry. Blink blademail. But as a support you just need a teammate to buy mjolnir for you.

One of the biggest strengths of WK support is that you can yolo tp into 5 people to defend towers. The slow after you die is so good. As a carry WK you generally don't want to just give up your ult for free so it's not as strong.
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Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 12:41:33
May 01 2014 12:40 GMT
#105295
Deso Ursa really hurts but I struggle to see the point of bothering with getting Vlads before getting a lock down item like Skullbasher. Am I not wrong in saying that you should just rush the Blink + Deso and get a Morbid Mask early on if you plan to attempt to do Roshan? There's nothing wrong with keeping a Morbid Mask in your inventory until you get a Skullbasher so you can lock someone down.

MoM phase is funnier anyway, 522 movement speed choo choo.
Erase and improve
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
May 01 2014 12:47 GMT
#105296
On May 01 2014 21:40 Surprise.820 wrote:
Deso Ursa really hurts but I struggle to see the point of bothering with getting Vlads before getting a lock down item like Skullbasher. Am I not wrong in saying that you should just rush the Blink + Deso and get a Morbid Mask early on if you plan to attempt to do Roshan? There's nothing wrong with keeping a Morbid Mask in your inventory until you get a Skullbasher so you can lock someone down.

MoM phase is funnier anyway, 522 movement speed choo choo.

I don't think deso is too good he has more than enough damage in midgame and needs mobility+lockdown+bkb more than dps items, also stanic/skadi give you lots of hp that you turn into damage with ulti, which may be more efficient usage of an orb effect.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 01 2014 12:51 GMT
#105297
deso is like the worst item i could imagine on ursa
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 01 2014 13:02 GMT
#105298
I like going Morbid, Blink, BKB into Helm and Skadi
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-01 13:12:39
May 01 2014 13:11 GMT
#105299
On May 01 2014 21:51 teddyoojo wrote:
deso is like the worst item i could imagine on ursa


I'm still looking at earlier Abyssal blade being the best rush item after blink, but I've seen deso appear a lot lately in my games, not that the Ursa won any of those games but the damage was a bit good from initial hit.

also stanic/skadi give you lots of hp that you turn into damage with ulti, which may be more efficient usage of an orb effect.


This is what surprised me most about the skadi. It was really nice to have that damage from that item alone. MoM really helped me chase people down too and I could always swap it for Satanic later on which my plan was.
Erase and improve
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 01 2014 13:16 GMT
#105300
On May 01 2014 22:11 Surprise.820 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2014 21:51 teddyoojo wrote:
deso is like the worst item i could imagine on ursa


This is what surprised me most about the skadi. It was really nice to have that damage from that item alone. MoM really helped me chase people down too and I could always swap it for Satanic later on which my plan was.

Skadi wins games, such a underrated item.

http://dotabuff.com/players/165802129/matches
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