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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 28 2014 20:32 GMT
#104921
So with the Panda changes, anyone knows how it works for his ASU? We do know, that his other skills have independent cooldowns when aquiring Aghs, meaning you can have a double thunderclap when initiating. Theoreticly it should behave the same way for the 6.81 change, meaning that you should be able to land a double crit. First one with the actual Panda and the second one with your Firepanda, after using Primal Split. If it does work this way I'd say the change is actually bigger than what I initially thought. If it doesn't work this way, it imo should.
I'm just making assumptions here, as I don't have the client installed these days, to prevent myself from playing, so I can properly prepare for my upcoming exams.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2014 20:36 GMT
#104922
It doesn't work that way unless u don't attack with the panda for 10s since I'm fairly certain that the ability starts on CD when the unit spawns. I could be wrong but the way it was worded I don't think I am. Its not "free crit every 10s" its "free crit if you don't attack for 10s"
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 28 2014 20:43 GMT
#104923
So, when the guaranteed drunken brawler crit is ready and I do NOT use it, before using Primal Split, the firepanda will get the guaranteed crit?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2014 20:44 GMT
#104924
No idea but i'd guess no because ur firepanda hasn't existed long enough.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
April 28 2014 20:56 GMT
#104925
My guess is, that it could be the same as jinada, so the moment you level up the skill for the first time, you instantly get the Jinada hit on your next attack. I imagina it works the same way for Drunken Brawler. level it up -> Get guaranteed crit upon next attack. I don't think the game checks to what happened prior to leveling it up, which is why I'd assume (and also hope it works that way) your firepanda spawns with guaranteed crit.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
April 28 2014 21:05 GMT
#104926
On April 29 2014 05:56 Talron wrote:
My guess is, that it could be the same as jinada, so the moment you level up the skill for the first time, you instantly get the Jinada hit on your next attack. I imagina it works the same way for Drunken Brawler. level it up -> Get guaranteed crit upon next attack. I don't think the game checks to what happened prior to leveling it up, which is why I'd assume (and also hope it works that way) your firepanda spawns with guaranteed crit.

I'm not 100% sure as the 6.81 thread is pretty big but i think that someone tested it and first hit after transformation is a crit.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2014 21:08 GMT
#104927
Hmmm well if it works that way it would be nice.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 28 2014 21:10 GMT
#104928
just saw that on reddit
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 28 2014 21:11 GMT
#104929
On April 29 2014 05:21 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 05:16 EmilA wrote:
On April 29 2014 05:06 govie wrote:
New poll

http://strawpoll.me/1597494/r


Linking to the result page is something a 3k scrub would do

I think you ment to say "majestic champion of the trench"


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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
April 28 2014 21:14 GMT
#104930
On April 29 2014 05:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
It doesn't work that way unless u don't attack with the panda for 10s since I'm fairly certain that the ability starts on CD when the unit spawns. I could be wrong but the way it was worded I don't think I am. Its not "free crit every 10s" its "free crit if you don't attack for 10s"

You are wrong; whenever a unit spawns with the new Drunken Brawler they get the auto crit/evasion. This includes both illusions and fire pandas.
rip
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2014 21:14 GMT
#104931
wow nice.

glad i'm wrong actually
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2014 21:14 GMT
#104932
That specific buff on the panda will need some game play testing. I could see the free dodges every 10 seconds being super powerful in mid lane, assuming the player has good control of creep agro. The same with auto crit, if it works like BHs skill.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 28 2014 21:15 GMT
#104933
in b4 some super sick plays lvling up lvl1 brawler when last autoattack is going to finish u
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 21:19:08
April 28 2014 21:17 GMT
#104934
U can't just not attack for 10s multiple times in midlane most of the time so its not terribly good like that. Useful if u run for rune and maybe between waves but not terribly often on a whole IMO. The evasion is cute though, especially since EITHER you are getting free dodges OR your opponent is harassing u with some regularity whereupon you want the skill to natural-dodge all those autos.

However, as a melee hero you need to pull creep aggro some amount of the time to get ur positioning right and u may get a few unfortunate range-creep hits that ruin ur evasion bit.
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 21:19:42
April 28 2014 21:18 GMT
#104935
On April 29 2014 06:14 Plansix wrote:
That specific buff on the panda will need some game play testing. I could see the free dodges every 10 seconds being super powerful in mid lane, assuming the player has good control of creep agro. The same with auto crit, if it works like BHs skill.

I think it will actually be really legit in midlane, especially vs. melee, since you can just bully them off lane with clap+crits, get your cs, bottle up while lane is pushed, and repeat. Note that your illusions also get the autocrit, so it makes illusion runes pretty decent for brew.

I may be overestimating how much time you'd have though.
rip
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-28 21:35:15
April 28 2014 21:31 GMT
#104936
On April 29 2014 06:14 TomatoBisque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2014 05:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
It doesn't work that way unless u don't attack with the panda for 10s since I'm fairly certain that the ability starts on CD when the unit spawns. I could be wrong but the way it was worded I don't think I am. Its not "free crit every 10s" its "free crit if you don't attack for 10s"

You are wrong; whenever a unit spawns with the new Drunken Brawler they get the auto crit/evasion. This includes both illusions and fire pandas.


manta panda + shadow demon + morph
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
April 28 2014 23:07 GMT
#104937
Pretty sure the guaranteed crit is going to mean shadowblade panda with enough +damage and -armor to try to 1 shot someone, making him effective in the same way bh is, but much more beefy and with three powerful pandas.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 28 2014 23:09 GMT
#104938
On April 29 2014 08:07 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Pretty sure the guaranteed crit is going to mean shadowblade panda with enough +damage and -armor to try to 1 shot someone, making him effective in the same way bh is, but much more beefy and with three powerful pandas.


The shadowblade backstab damage won't crit so that is useless. You may as well just use your blink to close on someone.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
April 28 2014 23:52 GMT
#104939


Fnatic confirmed to TI4? Are teams notified ahead of invite announcements?
Skol
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
April 28 2014 23:56 GMT
#104940
Let's assume they don't know if they are invited

But they can be pretty sure they will get an direct invite. And at least a qualifier spot, so they could be practicing even for that.
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