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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#8081
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:00:09
April 17 2012 14:58 GMT
#8082
viper without casual relics is so painful to watch :-/

On April 17 2012 23:56 konadora wrote:
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?

yes, tip playing clock in pub: get eul and eul urself after trap bc the ministun effect is still activated after you eul yourself.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 17 2012 14:59 GMT
#8083
On April 17 2012 23:56 konadora wrote:
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?

Yes.
WriterXiao8~~
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 17 2012 15:00 GMT
#8084
On April 17 2012 23:56 konadora wrote:
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?


Yes, but you'll still get the knockback/drain after you pass the cogs,
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:03:57
April 17 2012 15:01 GMT
#8085
On April 17 2012 23:58 NB wrote:
viper without casual relics is so painful to watch :-/

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 23:56 konadora wrote:
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?

yes, tip playing clock in pub: get eul and eul urself after trap bc the ministun effect is still activated after you eul yourself.

that ultra kill though! and cockblocking centaur stun :p

what you mean ministun effect still activated after self-eul? which ministun? from the cogs?
On April 18 2012 00:00 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 23:56 konadora wrote:
can you force staff out of cw's cogs?


Yes, but you'll still get the knockback/drain after you pass the cogs,


ah i guess you're talking about this

anyway, mtw really playing solid... i'm quite impressed with the new mtw

wow. STOMPED.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 17 2012 15:05 GMT
#8086
Syllabears are moving too much too the front, should just stay in the back and let the bear destroy people.
WriterXiao8~~
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 17 2012 15:07 GMT
#8087
On April 18 2012 00:01 konadora wrote:

anyway, mtw really playing solid... i'm quite impressed with the new mtw

wow. STOMPED.


I watched their games yesterday where they went + Show Spoiler +
1 :1
vs. DTS. After they + Show Spoiler +
lost the second game
, they literally spend 45 minutes just discussing what went well / what went wrong.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 17 2012 15:08 GMT
#8088
On April 18 2012 00:07 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:01 konadora wrote:

anyway, mtw really playing solid... i'm quite impressed with the new mtw

wow. STOMPED.


I watched their games yesterday where they went + Show Spoiler +
1 :1
vs. DTS. After they + Show Spoiler +
lost the second game
, they literally spend 45 minutes just discussing what went well / what went wrong.

wow shit, really? that's some dedication right there :o mtw really becoming one of my favourite teams with each passing day haha
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 17 2012 15:25 GMT
#8089
god damn... just realized that synd is last hitting with rasta at 1 dmg tick more than what i normally do ~_~... now i cant unsee it x(
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 17 2012 15:29 GMT
#8090
On April 18 2012 00:08 konadora wrote:
wow shit, really? that's some dedication right there :o mtw really becoming one of my favourite teams with each passing day haha



In addition to that, Synderen seems to be a really good leader for them.
He's making great decisions as a leader and still respects his mate's decisions. They all respect each other and seem to harmonize well with eachother, even though they have mixed nationalities. I have never seen something like this in esports; never watched bw actively though.
What impressed me the most is like, they are talking with each other all the time in a game, yet nobody complains or flames. This is what I call 'professional gamers'. They act like it's their profession, not like a hobby they make money with.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:34:15
April 17 2012 15:32 GMT
#8091
On April 18 2012 00:29 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:08 konadora wrote:
wow shit, really? that's some dedication right there :o mtw really becoming one of my favourite teams with each passing day haha



In addition to that, Synderen seems to be a really good leader for them.
He's making great decisions as a leader and still respects his mate's decisions. They all respect each other and seem to harmonize well with eachother, even though they have mixed nationalities. I have never seen something like this in esports; never watched bw actively though.
What impressed me the most is like, they are talking with each other all the time in a game, yet nobody complains or flames. This is what I call 'professional gamers'. They act like it's their profession, not like a hobby they make money with.

yeah, in bw you don't really get to see it because they don't stream and their training is kept in secret, but this... man i've only seen this with synderen and mtw, rest of the team that i've seen so far doesn't really have this. they're serious about playing dota.

and they're just destroying next.kz like some pubs in these two games... it's insane
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 17 2012 15:33 GMT
#8092
On April 18 2012 00:05 Kipsate wrote:
Syllabears are moving too much too the front, should just stay in the back and let the bear destroy people.


It's such a weird gameplay tho.

On that subject, I've been hesitating a lot recently ... threads or phase boots for the bear ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 17 2012 15:35 GMT
#8093
On April 18 2012 00:33 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:05 Kipsate wrote:
Syllabears are moving too much too the front, should just stay in the back and let the bear destroy people.


It's such a weird gameplay tho.

On that subject, I've been hesitating a lot recently ... threads or phase boots for the bear ?

i dont get why would you get treads (it's not threads D: ) on bear, because that attribute bonus doesnt help at all ><
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:37:30
April 17 2012 15:36 GMT
#8094
what's the way to remove the tower's aggro from you instantly? i just force attack on creeps, but from watching streams it seems like there's another way?

edit: also, ultra kill rhasta hahaha
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 17 2012 15:38 GMT
#8095
you cant compare dota to starcraft... team game is totally different from single player(1v1) game. mTw is still only in the team-building phase so you are seeing them doing stuff in raw communication method. I personally have been through this in the past and i gota say its one of the most painful experience in team building: lot of swearing, disagreements etc.... Once you remove the barriers between members, your team simply become an oiled machine and run smoothly without a heavy effort in communication.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 17 2012 15:38 GMT
#8096
On April 18 2012 00:35 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2012 00:33 Noocta wrote:
On April 18 2012 00:05 Kipsate wrote:
Syllabears are moving too much too the front, should just stay in the back and let the bear destroy people.


It's such a weird gameplay tho.

On that subject, I've been hesitating a lot recently ... threads or phase boots for the bear ?

i dont get why would you get treads (it's not threads D: ) on bear, because that attribute bonus doesnt help at all ><


Well.. was thinking of the AS to get more root proc.
Phase seems better to chase people or fight near creeps tho.

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 17 2012 15:40 GMT
#8097
If you want attack speed for your bear, treads aren't really that cost-efficient. For a 950g upgrade from regular boots, you gain 25 AS. Instead, you can get more AS (30) from buying two gloves of haste for 1000g.

I don't recommend this though. Phase boots are just better.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 17 2012 15:41 GMT
#8098
On April 18 2012 00:36 konadora wrote:
what's the way to remove the tower's aggro from you instantly? i just force attack on creeps, but from watching streams it seems like there's another way?

edit: also, ultra kill rhasta hahaha


Yes you force attack your own creeps, only works pre t3 towers though to my knowledge.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#8099
On April 18 2012 00:38 NB wrote:
you cant compare dota to starcraft... team game is totally different from single player(1v1) game. mTw is still only in the team-building phase so you are seeing them doing stuff in raw communication method. I personally have been through this in the past and i gota say its one of the most painful experience in team building: lot of swearing, disagreements etc.... Once you remove the barriers between members, your team simply become an oiled machine and run smoothly without a heavy effort in communication.

yeah i guess i wasn't clear enough, was talking about synderen's leadership, it's impressive to see it first-hand
POGGERS
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 15:43:08
April 17 2012 15:42 GMT
#8100
On April 18 2012 00:40 flamewheel wrote:
If you want attack speed for your bear, treads aren't really that cost-efficient. For a 950g upgrade from regular boots, you gain 25 AS. Instead, you can get more AS (30) from buying two gloves of haste for 1000g.

I don't recommend this though. Phase boots are just better.


I guess getting a Cuirasse after Radiance could be good too ?
But then, put it on the bear for more stats on him, or on sylla so you tank a bit better and still give the aura to the bear ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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