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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 21 2013 17:09 GMT
#78981
On September 22 2013 02:00 Shadowpostin wrote:
this is some next lvl shit lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FseJtVbUlG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FseJtVbUlG8

rofl thats pretty impressive
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 21 2013 17:13 GMT
#78982
On September 22 2013 02:00 Shadowpostin wrote:
this is some next lvl shit lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FseJtVbUlG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FseJtVbUlG8

This is some pretty sick stuff
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 17:23:34
September 21 2013 17:23 GMT
#78983
Wasn't that already posted a while ago?

at least I remember seeing someone using vacuum to stack
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 21 2013 17:58 GMT
#78984
Another day, another gimmick.
No new meta change incoming for that.

If you want to see gimmicky jungling just search for lockified dota on youtube.

The number of carries that can kill a huge neutral stack early in the game is limited, and in most cases requires to completely gimp your skillbuild(passives first sven new meta).
It may have some advantages for some snowbally heroes like QoP though. QoP has good area damage, would skill those skills first anyway and works extremely well if she has an item advantage.
I am talking solely about the hardcamp on spire, because stacking medium and ancient camps is nothing new at all.
The only carry I could see this working as advertised for is gyrocopter.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
September 21 2013 18:01 GMT
#78985
New EG playing again, vs Dignitas this time.

http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 21 2013 18:07 GMT
#78986
Wonder if it's at all viable in competitive. The main weakness I see is that it requires Dark Seer to completely sacrifice the offlane, meaning that you're missing out on a lot of what the hero provides (pressure onto their safelane carry, safe farm in the offlane). Still, if you're able to work around that, you could get a hell of a lot of value out of the hill stack with Gyro. Level 1 Calldown and four levels in Flak should pummel that stack.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:26:41
September 21 2013 18:26 GMT
#78987
On September 22 2013 01:52 NB wrote:
hmmm, does anyone know if the targeting in dota2 works similar to dota1? I have experienced many times where i rightclicked on the Naga before she casted her mirror image and I always get my next auto attack on the real hero?

Targeting persisting through Mirror Image is a known bug.

Targeting a unit that casts Mirror Image is supposed to drop actions targeted on them.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 21 2013 18:30 GMT
#78988
On September 22 2013 03:07 Acritter wrote:
Wonder if it's at all viable in competitive. The main weakness I see is that it requires Dark Seer to completely sacrifice the offlane, meaning that you're missing out on a lot of what the hero provides (pressure onto their safelane carry, safe farm in the offlane). Still, if you're able to work around that, you could get a hell of a lot of value out of the hill stack with Gyro. Level 1 Calldown and four levels in Flak should pummel that stack.

Its fairly common to completely sac the offlane. You just need to have a proper plan.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:43:07
September 21 2013 18:38 GMT
#78989
Dark Seer jungle isn't really a new thing. The only thing this does is it lets you stack 1 additional camp per minute by virtue of not being there, but that's also counter-acted by the loss of your own farm speed from leveling Vacuum 2 and 3 over Ion Shell 3 at levels 5 and 6 and using your mana more aggressively to stack, meaning you have less for fights in that time period.

Basically a normal max-Ion Shell Dark Seer does damage fast enough that you can do 3 camps + stack a 4th in 1 minute. This essentially shifts it to do 2 camps, stack 2 more because your Ion Shell level isn't high enough. The overall change in farming speed is not that high, it just allows you to sacrifice your own farm for a carry to get extra farm--the benefit of which is questionable in and of itself given how at 15 minutes into the game, a Dark Seer's own development is often actually going to be just as important as the carry's with a key item like Mek on the table.
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Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 19:16:50
September 21 2013 19:14 GMT
#78990
I can see a scenario in which you give your alchemist or gyro a insta bkb,could be useful,but yea I guess it's pretty questionable overall.
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
Roybs
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands500 Posts
September 21 2013 19:15 GMT
#78991
Does anyone have the video where the Liquid vs LGD.CN roshan fight was played at a slower speed? It was something titled with: "best moment of dota"? It was posted by someone from the staff on twitter but i cant find it :/
Kikiwoelmuis <3
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
September 21 2013 19:18 GMT
#78992
also imagine all those idiotic cliff jungling prophets porting into a stack of angry ursas
at least it has comedic value
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
September 21 2013 19:29 GMT
#78993
On September 22 2013 04:18 Shadowpostin wrote:
also imagine all those idiotic cliff jungling prophets porting into a stack of angry ursas
at least it has comedic value


if you're on the cliff creeps don't attack you afaik
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
September 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#78994
On September 22 2013 04:29 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 04:18 Shadowpostin wrote:
also imagine all those idiotic cliff jungling prophets porting into a stack of angry ursas
at least it has comedic value


if you're on the cliff creeps don't attack you afaik

Ranged ones can and will, but for the most part they just run to the bottom of the cliff and get sad they cant hit you
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#78995
On September 22 2013 03:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 01:52 NB wrote:
hmmm, does anyone know if the targeting in dota2 works similar to dota1? I have experienced many times where i rightclicked on the Naga before she casted her mirror image and I always get my next auto attack on the real hero?

Targeting persisting through Mirror Image is a known bug.

Targeting a unit that casts Mirror Image is supposed to drop actions targeted on them.


Quite a big bug to be honest... I always wondered why this is the case.
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
September 21 2013 19:54 GMT
#78996
On September 22 2013 04:18 Shadowpostin wrote:
also imagine all those idiotic cliff jungling prophets porting into a stack of angry ursas
at least it has comedic value


Sadly they wouldn't attack him as they're stuck trying to get back to the low ground.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 21 2013 20:04 GMT
#78997
On September 22 2013 04:54 GentleDrill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 04:18 Shadowpostin wrote:
also imagine all those idiotic cliff jungling prophets porting into a stack of angry ursas
at least it has comedic value


Sadly they wouldn't attack him as they're stuck trying to get back to the low ground.

But they can't bring themselves to just jump down the cliff. That is why they are not heroes, though technically most heroes can't just jump down cliffs either.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
ImpromptuGangbang
Profile Joined August 2012
Argentina102 Posts
September 21 2013 20:16 GMT
#78998
Dagger KOTL most likely. U get out by using a tp.
Kill em all!
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
September 21 2013 20:25 GMT
#78999
After switching to EU W from USE, I feel like the skill level has plummeted by like a factor of 20. Is this because DotA is more popular over in Europe? It's nuts.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 21 2013 20:34 GMT
#79000
I doubt it's much different. Of the few games I've played on EUW I have felt them to be the same/eqsier because I won them. Most likely just the luck of the draw.
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