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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:01 dragonborn wrote: Tide's ravage radius is ridiculous and needs a nerf. its so hard to play against it, even bad players using this perfectly. It's already been nerfed | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:13 NB wrote: stop complaining... this is no sc2 or LoL where people just gona nerf and buff shits over nite. Tide ulti has been like that forever and its still fine :-/... this is a good case to drop this word: l2p dont worry man, i know how to playing. but seems like you never played against refresher tide, its impossible to win team fights against it. radius range is still high, sadly i never seen any good or bad player missing ravage... | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:14 dragonborn wrote: dont worry man, i know how to playing. but seems like you never played against refresher tide, its impossible to win team fights against it. radius range is still high, sadly i never seen any good or bad player missing ravage... progamers miss ravages lol it's all about the positioning, you make or break games with ravage and uh, bkb? | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:25 konadora wrote: progamers miss ravages lol it's all about the positioning, you make or break games with ravage and uh, bkb? i dont know... i just lost 4 game in a row against tide and games were so simple. oh well, i guess time to play sd games and stop whining. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:33 NB wrote: you let a tide get refresher?... WHAT? ~_~ and yes, i hv played against refresher tide, refresher ES, Refresher VOID... aint nothing if you know what you are doing. hmm? seems like im not only one. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
he's a pretty good farmer so as long as he isn't playing hard support he'll get a 25~35 minute refresher | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
if tide somehow gets a refresher you should've been able to get a bkb. if you can't get a bkb by the time tide gets a refresher then chances are you were getting stomped by someone/a team much better than you and would've lost anyways. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:45 Ryuu314 wrote: if tide somehow gets a refresher you should've been able to get a bkb. if you can't get a bkb by the time tide gets a refresher then chances are you were getting stomped by someone/a team much better than you and would've lost anyways. Exactly this. If you are positioning poorly in fights and getting hit by ravages or if you are the one ravage is being targeted at, you should be getting a BKB. | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On April 10 2012 09:33 NB wrote: you let a tide get refresher?... WHAT? ~_~ and yes, i hv played against refresher tide, refresher ES, Refresher VOID... aint nothing if you know what you are doing. Ive seen a void get mom treads and follow up with aghanims and refresher LOL was pretty gay | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
Also, if you use bkb to kill the tide and he buys back with ravage up, you are still punished. It's just not fun. dmg and stun duration should be based on how far you are from tide, just like epicenter. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On April 10 2012 10:16 Zozo wrote: The problem with ravage is that you can't use bkb for anything else, if you waste it and the ravage doesn't come, the game might be over. The last thing we need is to make dota team fights last 5 seconds. Also, if you use bkb to kill the tide and he buys back with ravage up, you are still punished. It's just not fun. dmg and stun duration should be based on how far you are from tide, just like epicenter. I am not really a fan of Tide at all. He is like a one-trick-pony. He can severely punish melee that is laned against him early. But later on, it is slow and waiting for ult to come up. I dislike the range of it as well, it almost seems too large. For example, I like the idea of Sf. based on range, there is damage reduction and it allows people to react. It seems almost difficult for a tide to actually fail at using his ult with such a wide range. I do think when the tide gets blink it makes him easier to predict. Since prior to blink, the timing of when to bkb can be off. But there is much more of a chance of him using ult when he blinks. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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zZygote
Canada898 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: I don't care what anyone says, but ursa is like THE best pub stomp hero in the world. I do not know many that would disagree. Since he is a hero that needs the stuns, need the counters to stop him and can be considered fed with just 2 kills. if played well, Riki, Lycan, and Am can also destroy pubs. But I think ursa is easier to play. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:07 Itsmedudeman wrote: I don't care what anyone says, but ursa is like THE best pub stomp hero in the world. I always regret picking Ursa whenever I do for whatever reason. I absolutely annihilate early/mid game, do a couple Rosh's, but once we hit late game I just lose all utility and continue dying and it just never works out unless we just fuck them over hard early game or my team holds the entire enemy in place through various means. | ||
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