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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 08 2012 06:01 GMT
#7101
I don't watch pro games, but is Dazzle picked often? I never see him picked in TLIH (which is just an attempt to copy pro picks I assume?) so I was just curious. If he isn't picked often, why not?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 08 2012 06:03 GMT
#7102
On April 08 2012 14:31 igotmyown wrote:
Batrider needs some levels to do multicamp clears, which wastes the window of his laning ability.

I mean, you only really want to start jungling either when you're close to, or after you have Blink Dagger. You're really strong on the lane, and the a large reason you want to start clearing jungle with him is because not being in a lane creates pressure for everyone if you have Blink.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 08 2012 07:10 GMT
#7103
On April 08 2012 15:01 Whole wrote:
I don't watch pro games, but is Dazzle picked often? I never see him picked in TLIH (which is just an attempt to copy pro picks I assume?) so I was just curious. If he isn't picked often, why not?

dont buy too much in TLIH... there is a different between pub meta game and high level meta game. TL-IH is just any -cm mode you got in match making: no chen enchan ban and mass pub rape heroes like NS or BH.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 07:16:35
April 08 2012 07:15 GMT
#7104
On April 08 2012 16:10 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 15:01 Whole wrote:
I don't watch pro games, but is Dazzle picked often? I never see him picked in TLIH (which is just an attempt to copy pro picks I assume?) so I was just curious. If he isn't picked often, why not?

dont buy too much in TLIH... there is a different between pub meta game and high level meta game. TL-IH is just any -cm mode you got in match making: no chen enchan ban and mass pub rape heroes like NS or BH.

chen/ench is only worth banning against teams that play their best games when using them. in TLIH hardly anybody that knows how to play that role wants to play them.
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
April 08 2012 07:59 GMT
#7105
On April 08 2012 16:15 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 16:10 NB wrote:
On April 08 2012 15:01 Whole wrote:
I don't watch pro games, but is Dazzle picked often? I never see him picked in TLIH (which is just an attempt to copy pro picks I assume?) so I was just curious. If he isn't picked often, why not?

dont buy too much in TLIH... there is a different between pub meta game and high level meta game. TL-IH is just any -cm mode you got in match making: no chen enchan ban and mass pub rape heroes like NS or BH.

chen/ench is only worth banning against teams that play their best games when using them. in TLIH hardly anybody that knows how to play that role wants to play them.


i should do some TLIH sometime then. Chen and Enchantress are by far my best heroes. In my last 80 non chen/ench games I have a 42% win rate, my last 30 chen/ench games im 76%. Invoker is a distant 3rd (with more than 25 games played) and he is at 54%. I can definitely see NS and BH being frequent pickups though. Tough to beat those heroes if skill is equal vs equal. It requires coordination which is pretty infrequent in pubs.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
April 08 2012 08:06 GMT
#7106
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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
April 08 2012 08:19 GMT
#7107
I seem to find that Chen requires a little team coordination early game. If I am queuing with 2+ others I will generally win 1-2 lanes for my team, possibly a 3rd. I like picking enchantress in solo queue. No matter what, if you are good you will win guarenteed 1 lane, probably 2 lanes, and possibly all lanes for your team single handedly. The biggest thing I have found with her to have a massive impact in pubs is 1) rack up as much gold/kills in the first 5 minutes and do your damndest to take the tower in the lane you are jungling near. 2) As soon as night hits, smoke gank another lane (I generally do it solo with 2 creeps, either a hard disabler or an ursa for the slow) then push the tower hard. Since her vision is so fucking amazing at night you can completely catch people by suprise even with solo smoke. Drums mek mana boots at a reasonable time and you are a monster. Proceed to win gam unless your team absolutely fails.

I've gotten to the point with her where stomping is inevitable so I have started trying troll builds. You would be surprised how hilarious Armlet+MoM is.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 08 2012 08:49 GMT
#7108
is it only me or is DotA 2 unable to connect to the servers when launching it ?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 08 2012 09:00 GMT
#7109
Lol my chen used to be 5 bars full on the performance tab until i start rushing so fast the games ended before i start caring to buy wards xD... no wards it dropped.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
April 08 2012 09:13 GMT
#7110
It's like Vigoss was born a ganker or smt. I remember a game where he just ran around with Leshrac (and a haste rune?) at level 2 or smt and kill like 3 people in a row. It's like whereever he goes, someone will die.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
April 08 2012 10:17 GMT
#7111
On April 08 2012 17:49 Fatalize wrote:
is it only me or is DotA 2 unable to connect to the servers when launching it ?


Try restarting steam. Happens to me when I put my pc to sleep while having steam in the background.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 08 2012 10:42 GMT
#7112
On April 08 2012 18:00 NB wrote:
Lol my chen used to be 5 bars full on the performance tab until i start rushing so fast the games ended before i start caring to buy wards xD... no wards it dropped.


That is probably why my Venomancer is 5 bars right now since I use the plague wards as warding for entire matches. Perhaps that is one of the main factors for determining performance (since wins does not really seem to influence it). That might mean support might on average have higher performance than other types (of course, that is only a theory though).
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 08 2012 10:52 GMT
#7113
On April 08 2012 19:42 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 18:00 NB wrote:
Lol my chen used to be 5 bars full on the performance tab until i start rushing so fast the games ended before i start caring to buy wards xD... no wards it dropped.


That is probably why my Venomancer is 5 bars right now since I use the plague wards as warding for entire matches. Perhaps that is one of the main factors for determining performance (since wins does not really seem to influence it). That might mean support might on average have higher performance than other types (of course, that is only a theory though).

are you kidding? my lycan is max 5 bars and my morphling is close to lycan :D...
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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 11:01:13
April 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#7114
ASDAGAWD Got my betakey! Hooly shit. My birthday is tomorrow. Guess it came a bit earlier. Lolwhat shows my birthday is today... hmm. Guess I put the wrong day on my profile
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#7115
On April 08 2012 19:59 epoc wrote:
ASDAGAWD Got my betakey! Hooly shit. My birthday is tomorrow. Guess it came a bit earlier. Lolwhat shows my birthday is today... hmm. Guess I put the wrong day on my profile

Its probably just because TL is on korea time
Congratulations on getting your beta key!
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epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 12:59:02
April 08 2012 12:33 GMT
#7116
When I installed it said I received some extra keys to send to friends or something. Now I can't find those anymore. I hope I didn't fuck something up. Would like to give one key to my friend. Well I sent a support ticket lets see what happens
Cloudsong
Profile Joined October 2010
Luxembourg69 Posts
April 08 2012 12:40 GMT
#7117
On April 08 2012 17:06 zeru wrote:
Chen is also by far my best hero, or maybe just the hero i can affect the game most with pretty easily because he's so strong, maybe both, not sure, either way my win rate with chen is stupid high >90%.

Chen, when played correctly, can have a huge impact on a game...
GG
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 08 2012 13:13 GMT
#7118
On April 08 2012 21:33 epoc wrote:
When I installed it said I received some extra keys to send to friends or something. Now I can't find those anymore. I hope I didn't fuck something up. Would like to give one key to my friend. Well I sent a support ticket lets see what happens

Are you sure it isnt in your gift management window?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 08 2012 13:36 GMT
#7119
On April 08 2012 21:40 Cloudsong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 17:06 zeru wrote:
Chen is also by far my best hero, or maybe just the hero i can affect the game most with pretty easily because he's so strong, maybe both, not sure, either way my win rate with chen is stupid high >90%.

Chen, when played correctly, can have a huge impact on a game...


Indeed, I managed to get mid and bot raxes earlier in <25mins just cause my team actually pushed with me and having a Shadow Shaman helps.

Alot of pubs don't know how to react to chen and you can easily get t1 and t2 towers in the first 10 minutes if you get some luck with creeps and ganks.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 08 2012 13:40 GMT
#7120
On April 08 2012 13:49 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:28 Erasme wrote:
Hehehe i'm raping face with venom. Agha/vanguard/manta venom ftw :D


Manta on venomancer? I usually play more assist and melt face against players than going carry. I usually have to go vanguard simply to stay alive and scepter is well, a no brain er. But I have never gone manta. I love playing as venomancer though; the hero is the only one I managed to maximize my performance in the game. Granted, I do not think that means much haha. But still, I enjoy playing veno so much.

What was your starting build skill wise?

As i'm new to dota, i play at the lowest level so maybe thats why it works
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