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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:25:14
April 07 2012 20:21 GMT
#7081
chen furion invoker by SNP please

oh yeah shadow demon too lol forgot him...

really? furion invoker going to 2nd stage ban?!

STORM AS PICK LOL

"what is this metagame? i dont even know anymore" - tobi


night stalker.... dont know if it's even a decent pickup right now :/

THESE ARE SOME REALLY WEIRD PICKS LOL
POGGERS
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
April 07 2012 20:25 GMT
#7082
Wow... Clock?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 07 2012 20:27 GMT
#7083
lol, tobi so mad no invoker in 2 games. ROFL.
liftlift > tsm
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:29:55
April 07 2012 20:29 GMT
#7084
Russians seem to like the not-recently-seen initiators: night stalker, puck, clockwerk, storm spirit, and queen of pain. Dota has tons of viable heroes but people falsely believe that some are way imbalanced and must be picked. For example, Invoker wasn't picked or banned in this draft. People (TLIH scrubs sometimes) just copy whatever recent pro games they see, and those common pro teams usually play the same heroes because they're good with them and they are used to a certain style. Need more NaVi-esque teams.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:33:35
April 07 2012 20:30 GMT
#7085
On April 08 2012 05:29 Durak wrote:
Russians seem to like the not-recently-seen initiators: night stalker, puck, clockwerk, storm spirit, and queen of pain. Dota has tons of viable heroes but people falsely believe that some are way imbalanced and must be picked. For example, Invoker wasn't picked or banned in this draft. People (TLIH scrubs sometimes) just copy whatever recent pro games they see, and those common pro teams usually play the same heroes because they're good with them and they are used to a certain style. Need more NaVi-esque teams.

havent seen NS in a loooong time, so happy to see him back :3

clock pick was really weird though, dont understand it

also, puck pick making laning impossible, bottom getting owned so hard
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:35:33
April 07 2012 20:32 GMT
#7086
storm dies

centaurs fighting...

and bottom, sd and puck face-off at river

morph free farm

chen and enchant gonna steal each other's creeps?

lol this game is already interesting

HAHAHA man that NS block looool
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 20:38:18
April 07 2012 20:35 GMT
#7087
This game is so weird, some interesting play around top lane / radient secret shop xD

Clever play by Shadow Demon, but this game is mad.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
April 07 2012 20:39 GMT
#7088
this is the weirdest game of dota i've ever watched :p
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
April 07 2012 20:52 GMT
#7089
this game everyone is like "I dont give a fuck"
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 21:10:24
April 07 2012 21:06 GMT
#7090
Morph just sitting at 4k.. now almost 5k gold doing nothing. Christ I hate this so much. He could have killed so many heroes with his combo if he bought an eaglehorn for the adaptive strike damage.

I can only assume he's going for shotgun.

*edit* There, he buys the Eth Blade completely. Why not just buy Eagle....=\. He's diving into 3 heroes trying to snipe kills, yet ironically is saving all his gold for buyback safety. -.-?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 07 2012 21:36 GMT
#7091
On April 08 2012 02:10 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 02:08 Slardar wrote:
I hope so....that is just too too easy to pull off imo. Stack the camp every minute until you hit 4 or 5 camps, you will be level 3 by then for lvl 2 Shell, and whammo. It's almost like a mini-Roshan you will be level 5-6 with enough $ for Arcane Boots from there you can run train everywhere. Just does not seem balanced to me.

idk i think that's the unique characteristic of ds, and that's why it should be a consideration for banning him


It's not really a unique characteristic. It's because the jungle isn't finished so neuts don't run away when taking damage unlike in dota 1 which makes the tactic not as useful. That's also why sand storm doesn't do damage to neuts(Hotfix). They just need to fix the jungle AI :<
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 07 2012 21:50 GMT
#7092
yea there's a couple other heroes that can do the same
bat in particular
also storm but it's not nearly as efficient
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#7093
I saw demon do it on SD as well. Just stacked until it was full then spammed shadow poison.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#7094
On April 08 2012 06:50 Dead9 wrote:
yea there's a couple other heroes that can do the same
bat in particular
also storm but it's not nearly as efficient

To be fair, Bat doesn't really need the trick to be able to clear jungle quickly and safely.
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Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
April 07 2012 21:57 GMT
#7095
I was wondering who vVv was then Tobi said it was Vigoss and im like oh best player in the world, moscow 5 is still staying strong. He didn't fail to amaze, pretty standard v-god
In Mushi we trust
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 07 2012 21:58 GMT
#7096
On April 08 2012 06:57 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote:
I was wondering who vVv was then Tobi said it was Vigoss and im like oh best player in the world, moscow 5 is still staying strong. He didn't fail to amaze, pretty standard v-god


To be fair last time we saw him he didn't really impress so it's nice to see him doing well.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 08 2012 04:28 GMT
#7097
Hehehe i'm raping face with venom. Agha/vanguard/manta venom ftw :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 08 2012 04:49 GMT
#7098
On April 08 2012 13:28 Erasme wrote:
Hehehe i'm raping face with venom. Agha/vanguard/manta venom ftw :D


Manta on venomancer? I usually play more assist and melt face against players than going carry. I usually have to go vanguard simply to stay alive and scepter is well, a no brain er. But I have never gone manta. I love playing as venomancer though; the hero is the only one I managed to maximize my performance in the game. Granted, I do not think that means much haha. But still, I enjoy playing veno so much.

What was your starting build skill wise?
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
April 08 2012 05:14 GMT
#7099
All of this Vigoss hype makes want to watch the VODs.

WHERE ARE THEY!?

WHY AREN'T THEY LOADING!?
Jaedong plz
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
April 08 2012 05:31 GMT
#7100
On April 08 2012 06:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 06:50 Dead9 wrote:
yea there's a couple other heroes that can do the same
bat in particular
also storm but it's not nearly as efficient

To be fair, Bat doesn't really need the trick to be able to clear jungle quickly and safely.


I've tried jungle smoke in dota1 with a lot of heroes, the problem is the creeps tend to run away, and you need a good damage to mana cost/low cooldown spell at level 1 (to clear the small camp quickly, necrolyte can't do this) and 3 (to kill the large camp). Storm can barely clear hellcallers and troll warlords before smoke runs out.

Batrider needs some levels to do multicamp clears, which wastes the window of his laning ability.
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