EPTHe was used SO often that a team named themselves No Tidehunter as a joke.
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tpmraven
United States833 Posts
He was used SO often that a team named themselves No Tidehunter as a joke. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 03 2013 16:19 tpmraven wrote: i came back to dota about 1 month ago after about a 6 month break, and i have been wondering.... What happened to Tide? He was used SO often that a team named themselves No Tidehunter as a joke. The ult nerf had a minor effect, but changes to how people play the game made Tide less desirable. For example, Tide is pretty weak in trilane vs. trilane, and given how much more willing teams are to play aggressive trilanes, this is a big liability for the hero. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On July 03 2013 16:49 BlitzerSC wrote: I think Tide would do very well mid, especially against some of the "new" mid heroes like DK. Well I agree with that, but this then leads to the question: What should tide actually do with the farm? Go semicarry and build him like magnus, i.e. blink dagger refresher; as I don't see why you would want him to build as a regular semicarry? Also he's lacking some of the core aspects most current mid-heroes have, namely mobility and an aoe-ability with range (anchor smash doesn't really count for this). As soon as you run into a "old" mid hero, such as qop, puck he should be in a worse position than dk, since he can't even lasthit and harass at same time, as he has no skill like breath fire or shockwave. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On July 03 2013 17:13 Mafe wrote: Well I agree with that, but this then leads to the question: What should tide actually do with the farm? Go semicarry and build him like magnus, i.e. blink dagger refresher; as I don't see why you would want him to build as a regular semicarry? Also he's lacking some of the core aspects most current mid-heroes have, namely mobility and an aoe-ability with range (anchor smash doesn't really count for this). As soon as you run into a "old" mid hero, such as qop, puck he should be in a worse position than dk, since he can't even lasthit and harass at same time, as he has no skill like breath fire or shockwave. .. He'd work fine against stuff like Naga and DK, sure he's not a firstpick THIS IS OUR MID, thats not required for a hero to be good. A situational pick for a crazy strong initiator or counter initiator to get up arcane/blink dagger in decent timing is the whole reason why mag is good, it can work for other melee teamfight ult centric heros like SK and tide as well | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On July 03 2013 17:13 Mafe wrote: Well I agree with that, but this then leads to the question: What should tide actually do with the farm? Go semicarry and build him like magnus, i.e. blink dagger refresher; as I don't see why you would want him to build as a regular semicarry? Also he's lacking some of the core aspects most current mid-heroes have, namely mobility and an aoe-ability with range (anchor smash doesn't really count for this). ? the point of sending tide mid,like for instance brewmaster,mag,bm,etc. is to get a quick lvl 6 and a blink or mek or w/e mid hero does not equal huge amounts of farm for a lot of heros,not that tide can't do anything with the farm,the lane just serves as a catalyst and it will allow you to have a huge impact much sooner than a tide that needs to pull to get farm the question is if your lanes are in a good enough position to allow you to be useless to them until you get what you need from the lane it's also nice because usually the enemy team has much more breathing room to get bkbs up,with a tide getting mid farm however you could force the opposing carry into a much quicker bkb buy than they would like | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Same to the other supports (that in my highest tier supports list) like SK and ES, as if people forgot about these sickening heroes already, they force the oppo carry to have a BKB timing. And then dagger on Tide/SK/ES can immediately change the game. Additionally, TC/Disruptor (and Jakiro to certain extend), are also all big headaches. The thing is that you really need some skilled players to run these heroes, especially on how to engaging in team fight and the player himself to be resilient enough to play with that depressing resources management especially in disadvantaged game. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Ryder.
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On July 03 2013 20:21 Ryder. wrote: Is pinging not working properly for anyone else? I can't seem to ping directly on the ground (can only do so via minimap). I get this once in a while too. It's a pretty annoying bug. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Grettin
42416 Posts
Anyways, the pinging atm works everyway if you leave the "g" out of there, but only one way if you add the "g". | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On July 03 2013 21:27 Grettin wrote: What people figured out here is that some people ping with alt+g+click and some does alt+click. I can't remember which one it was back in Dota 1, but i've always pinged by clicking alt+g+click. Anyways, the pinging atm works everyway if you leave the "g" out of there, but only one way if you add the "g". Well, sc2 uses "alt + g" for pinging, so presumably wc3 did too. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On July 03 2013 21:29 Excludos wrote: Well, sc2 used "alt + g" for pinging, so presumably wc3 did too. Yeah, thats what i figured. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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