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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
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Testuser
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hooahah
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Compare stat-aura-ult trax damage to necromastery-aura sf at lvl 7(sf max souls) (44+55)/2-26+(26+4+40+6*1.9)*1.28 = 127 damage for trax (35+41)/2+6*2.9+72 = 127 damage for sf Negative armor isn't as easy to calculate(you have assume armor values and take an average). I'm too lazy to check now, but I do remember an estimate for desolator when it gave -6 that was average 15-20% more damage for armors 5-15 and whopping 30% if you go from 2 armor to -3. Aside from that, drow and sf are actually not that different. Then again sf still gets his fully functional ult at lvl 9. And he will always have mana for it^^ George Lucas'd + Show Spoiler + The difference between razeless sf and other stupid dps builds us that sf gets a 72 damage along with a negative armor aura. Compare stat-aura-ult trax damage to necromastery-aura sf at lvl 7(sf max souls) (44+55)/2-26+(26+4+6*1.9)*1.28 = 76.4 damage for trax (35+41)/2+6*2.9+72 = 127.4 damage for sf Negative armor isn't as easy to calculate(you have assume armor values and take an average). Still Shadow Fiend does actually do a hell of a lot of damage very early. Other heroes do not. | ||
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Yacobs
United States846 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On June 30 2013 04:47 teddyoojo wrote: is there any logic behind when u can do something during a pause? I might not remember this properly, but I think its: If you or a teammate pauses, you wont be able to move the screen. If the enemy team pauses, you are free to look around, but nothing else (obv). I'm not 100% certain. Someone else might know more. | ||
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Souone
Brazil470 Posts
On June 30 2013 03:59 Mataza wrote: The difference between razeless sf and other stupid dps builds us that sf gets a 72 damage along with a negative armor aura. Compare stat-aura-ult trax damage to necromastery-aura sf at lvl 7(sf max souls) (44+55)/2-26+(26+4+6*1.9)*1.28 = 76.4 damage for trax (35+41)/2+6*2.9+72 = 127.4 damage for sf Negative armor isn't as easy to calculate(you have assume armor values and take an average). Still Shadow Fiend does actually do a hell of a lot of damage very early. Other heroes do not. I don't get your Drow math, it should be something around 125 if you count aura and ult, what are you considering here ? Plus Drow has a lot higher attack speed due to higher agility and she also has higher range. At level 7 with stats + aura + ult Drow has 104+22 damage and 0,94s attack speed, which is 136.9 DPS. SF with max souls has 55+72 and 1.24s attack speed, which is 102.4 DPS (and then account for the -5 armor). | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
and its for both teams | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On June 30 2013 04:49 Excludos wrote: I might not remember this properly, but I think its: If you or a teammate pauses, you wont be able to move the screen. If the enemy team pauses, you are free to look around, but nothing else (obv). I'm not 100% certain. Someone else might know more. if that is correct, is it intended? if it is why????? nerf to puppey? | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
On June 30 2013 03:59 Mataza wrote: The difference between razeless sf and other stupid dps builds us that sf gets a 72 damage along with a negative armor aura. Compare stat-aura-ult trax damage to necromastery-aura sf at lvl 7(sf max souls) (44+55)/2-26+(26+4+6*1.9)*1.28 = 76.4 damage for trax (35+41)/2+6*2.9+72 = 127.4 damage for sf Negative armor isn't as easy to calculate(you have assume armor values and take an average). Still Shadow Fiend does actually do a hell of a lot of damage very early. Other heroes do not. The other mid would prob kill you or have double your cs and multiple lvls on you if you skipped raze. Raze keeps people from recklessly diving you and pushes the lane when you need to. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Its like going no dragon breath on DK. | ||
TheEmulator
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On June 30 2013 05:38 Comeh wrote: If you are playing SF and aren't using raises, you probably shouldn't be playing SF. Its like going no dragon breath on DK. Who wants to use some stupid amazing spell that does tons of damage? I sure don't  | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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hooahah
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Now if Terrorblade and AM become his most feared heroes that would be cool. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 30 2013 05:48 hooahah wrote: I have to say, after having watched a few games of VP lately, Illidan is a beastly carry player. Jesus this guy, he's got both the farming abilities and can think straight later on (something which can't be said for some carries) Talking about the no Flame breath DK and Crit max jugger? | ||
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sc2pal
Poland624 Posts
down no | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Grettin
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