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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
a liquid player interacting with its community. neat! | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:01 Firebolt145 wrote: Yeah, I assumed so, just clarifying. I've always considered Battlefury to be extremely superfluous on Alchemist but at the same time every week's 'top farmer' is an Alchemist with Battlefury, so I still sometimes go for it just for fun. Its a nice alternative to radiance. I think I like it more than radiance. I think. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 10 2013 23:57 Grettin wrote: Oh dear, i decided to ask this AA why he didn't level up his chilling touch at all. "It has big manacost and has no impact what so ever". >_< That's the wrong way to go about it. That's obviously his response, you already knew that. It used to have a big manacost and very little impact, so it was common to skip it. If he still does that, he most likely still thinks it works like that. That wasn't a facepalm answer, it was expected. He just didn't know how much better the spell is now. It happens often, not everyone follows discussions or pro games and even if they should read the patch notes, missing something like how much this paticular buff means isn't THAT crazy. Perhaps try saying it got buffed heavily in the last patch and it is worth the skill points now. You admit he is partially correct, since he is right by the old standards, so he is more likely to receive it well, and you achieve the same result. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 10 2013 23:40 Grettin wrote: Exactly. People really should read the patch notes, just to see if some spells are worse or better. Cold Feet + Stats is a build for solo lanes, and is still probably better than taking Chilling Touch if you're mid. Chilling Touch is only really good if you have a lot of people getting the buff--1v1 it's actually quite underwhelming because the CD is so long, especially since in a solo lane, you have to be farming, and so the enemy laner can just back off and force you to either use the buff on creeps or miss lasthits. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:04 Firebolt145 wrote: Bulba has always been great for coming onto these forums and participating in discussions. Sadly he's pretty much the only one Yeah, he drops in LR threads a bit and that stuff. I guess Fluff does those hueg blog posts though, so that's pretty cool. AND FIREBOLT COMES IN HERE TOO! On May 10 2013 23:40 Grettin wrote: Show nested quote + Exactly. People really should read the patch notes, just to see if some spells are worse or better. Cold Feet + Stats is a build for solo lanes, and is still probably better than taking Chilling Touch if you're mid. Chilling Touch is only really good if you have a lot of people getting the buff--1v1 it's actually quite underwhelming because the CD is so long, especially since in a solo lane, you have to be farming, and so the enemy laner can just back off and force you to either use the buff on creeps or miss lasthits. The manacost is also really quite brutal for someone solo laning, where the rest of his spells are pretty mana intensive. | ||
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babishh
Canada965 Posts
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 10 2013 23:15 Kipsate wrote: Jugger Bfury is quite outdated unless you are playing the 4-1 with a Juggernaut(in which case you are doing it wrong). If you are the only well scaling hero on the team go for it . If there is a secondary carry(which you should have normally in any game but its a pub) then just go Drums Phase Manta Butter/Agha/Diffusal. Bfury is also reasonable against illusion heroes I suppose. I wouldn't say it's outdated, just situational. If's still an effective midgame transition if the game tempo gets rather farmy. YYF has done this even in scrims/pro games when he's not the main carry. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
i modelled my meepo play after him | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:09 babishh wrote: did anyone partecipate the dotatalk lottery to win a ti3 paid trip? the draft has been one of the worst ones ever seen lol I was, yea it was really awkward. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:11 kollin wrote: firebolt is my dota hero i modelled my meepo play after him His Brood and SF are also legendary I hear. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
You should check out his SM! | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:07 TheYango wrote: Cold Feet + Stats is a build for solo lanes, and is still probably better than taking Chilling Touch if you're mid. Chilling Touch is only really good if you have a lot of people getting the buff--1v1 it's actually quite underwhelming because the CD is so long, especially since in a solo lane, you have to be farming, and so the enemy laner can just back off and force you to either use the buff on creeps or miss lasthits. Yeah. Well it was 2v2 safe, with mid helping alot. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 10 2013 21:50 Andr3 wrote: The thing is CK was kinda popularized by the chinese... I don't remember many wisp+ck games from DotA1, but a TON of rubick/aa/ck from chinese teams. It's not really the same. And it's hard to say CK was "popularized" by the Chinese, when it was just one of the mishmash of things that came out of SMM 2011 (where the Chinese just assimilated a lot of things from SEA DotA at the time like DK, Slardar, QoP, and bottle-crowing). CK+Wisp is basically every Chinese pubstack team's favorite combo (as I said, it's the highest winrate combo on Chinese DotA 1 ladder). VG is still, more or less, a pubstack team. The fact that its worked against an off-form LGD is...not really definitive. I'm not going to say it won't work at this point, but really I'd wait to see it's effectiveness against iG or DK. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
PS: AA isn't much of a bottle rush hero IMO since he isn't spamming waves etc. All his lasthits come from right clicks so might as well get as many stats as you can at the start. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On May 11 2013 00:20 TheYango wrote: It's not really the same. And it's hard to say CK was "popularized" by the Chinese, when it was just one of the mishmash of things that came out of SMM 2011 (where the Chinese just assimilated a lot of things from SEA DotA at the time like DK, Slardar, QoP, and bottle-crowing). CK+Wisp is basically every Chinese pubstack team's favorite combo (as I said, it's the highest winrate combo on Chinese DotA 1 ladder). VG is still, more or less, a pubstack team. The fact that its worked against an off-form LGD is...not really definitive. I'm not going to say it won't work at this point, but really I'd wait to see it's effectiveness against iG or DK. In my opinion, it seems like a solid pocketstrat in Chinese dota (an opportunistic lastpick against some sort of split push, vulnerable laning dota). To me, it resembles sort of SCBW strategies that faded out of old (perhaps Mech when it got popular) - an old strategy that demands a really particular kind of playstyle to deal with it, and if executed properly will lose most of the time. However, once players familiarize themselves with playing the correct counters, the strategy becomes particularly weaker. We'll see - after all, TI3 West vs East will have this hero playing a lot. | ||
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Oakstream
Sweden240 Posts
I can't search games, not even watch other games, says there are no live games:o | ||
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