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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 23 2013 11:58 GMT
#52881
Keep spoilers out of the General Discussion, limit it to the LR thread please.
WriterXiao8~~
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 23 2013 12:12 GMT
#52882
You guys think there will be another balance patch before TI3? I can't remember when the one before TI2 was as Playdota change logs don't have dates on them...
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 23 2013 12:17 GMT
#52883
On April 23 2013 21:12 Benjef wrote:
You guys think there will be another balance patch before TI3? I can't remember when the one before TI2 was as Playdota change logs don't have dates on them...

the site at getdota has them, so does liquipedia
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
April 23 2013 12:21 GMT
#52884
Ah cheers, I've always just used playdota. Well last big patch was in March last year before TI2, so I guess we'll be seeing this meta through to TI3...
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Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
April 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#52885
On April 23 2013 21:17 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:12 Benjef wrote:
You guys think there will be another balance patch before TI3? I can't remember when the one before TI2 was as Playdota change logs don't have dates on them...

the site at getdota has them, so does liquipedia


i think so, they said there's going to be one coming up shortly, guesstimation is maybe next month
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
April 23 2013 12:40 GMT
#52886
On April 23 2013 21:12 Benjef wrote:
You guys think there will be another balance patch before TI3? I can't remember when the one before TI2 was as Playdota change logs don't have dates on them...

Maybe a minor one, but not a 6.75 big one.
EZ4ENCE
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 23 2013 12:42 GMT
#52887
He already announced that 6.78 will be a big one
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
April 23 2013 12:45 GMT
#52888
On April 23 2013 21:42 Yoshi- wrote:
He already announced that 6.78 will be a big one


So its either right around the corner, or not before after TI3 then?
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 23 2013 12:51 GMT
#52889
On April 23 2013 21:45 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 21:42 Yoshi- wrote:
He already announced that 6.78 will be a big one


So its either right around the corner, or not before after TI3 then?


Well he also said that 6.78 will be soon after 6.77 i think, so yea.
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 23 2013 12:54 GMT
#52890
On April 23 2013 21:12 Benjef wrote:
You guys think there will be another balance patch before TI3? I can't remember when the one before TI2 was as Playdota change logs don't have dates on them...

Oh boy I hope IceFrog releases one. I'm sick of this so called "meta" where you can't watch a professional game in the West without having a bo3 with the same, literally same exact heroes in the game.
People bitched so much about Morph and Veno (as well as Lycan and Naga) at TI2 but most of the games were excited to watch. Before TI2 and even at TI2 a good Black Hole was so excited to see... nowadays I can't even get excited about a good Reserve Polarity because I see it every single fucking game (unless its Dendi Magnus haha). Maybe it's just me... but at the end of the day I think we need more "Zenith" in Europe. Old Mouz are a good example of it but unfortunately they disbanded.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 12:58:50
April 23 2013 12:58 GMT
#52891
idk i still think gyro/naix is better than morph/am/lycan/naga splitpush forever and ever lineup.

that said im absolutely sick of gyro/naix/KOTL/mag. ur right about rp as well, what an anti hype spell imo
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 13:06:50
April 23 2013 13:02 GMT
#52892
On April 23 2013 21:58 Klonere wrote:
idk i still think gyro/naix is better than morph/am/lycan/naga splitpush forever and ever lineup.

that said im absolutely sick of gyro/naix/KOTL/mag. ur right about rp as well, what an anti hype spell imo


tbh, naga+blackhole(+seer) combo was really worth the hype everytime, compared to RP at least... But i agree, getting tired and sick of the 'meta' right now.

I actually jump from happiness everytime i see AM nowadays though. Don't know why. Maybe it's brain damage.. or cancer from lancer/gyro/mag/kotl.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 23 2013 13:26 GMT
#52893
not tired of meta that much besides gyro (which is really a western thing), though i wish to see more variances in supports. eras will almost always have the same heroes being picked in meta with outlier strats.

batriders a good fun concept but just too strong right now, the boring parts of naix and magnus are the ones that are the strongest: rage and open wounds advantage versus infest bombs (still very good though), reverse polarity versus skewer, the old veno and AA suffered from the same thing. i also didnt like the new 2 ban draft as a drafter (who the hell wants to play against these heroes) but i came to enjoy it as a viewer

naga had too many complainers, honestly i thought she was one of the more interesting concepts to ever become a core part of the meta, lycan was too strong in jungle and cooldowns but i've always enjoyed watching split pusher play, which is why i didnt like seeing morph's morphs getting buffed (happy that its nerfed again) and never being able to see replicate manta instead.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 23 2013 13:35 GMT
#52894
Anti-Mage has always been great to watch.

Fuck the haterz.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 13:43:35
April 23 2013 13:38 GMT
#52895
KotL and Lone Druid are making games extremely dull at this point and definitely need nerfs. I kind of hate watching (and playing against) both of them
Mag is freaking stupid. Shockwave and maybe RP nerfs needed
Nai'x will get a turnrate and/or ms nerf. Maybe nerf to open wounds. Nothing very big since there are a lot of obvious counters to the hero
Gyro and PL are kind of gimmicky and probably won't receive very substantial nerfs
Shadow Demon will have soul catcher nerfed some
Nyx and Batrider will get nerfs but relatively small ones. They are somewhat interesting to watch in my opinion
Dark Seer may be nerfed

Ultimately I reserve my hatred for KotL and Mag.

EDIT: Despite my thoughts on Gyro's strength I really wouldn't mind him being nerfed. The whole lose game but then buy a rapier and win is just BS
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 13:43:01
April 23 2013 13:40 GMT
#52896
The AM hate was really just because he was too good and far too common, just like morphling. He really can be fun to watch. It's not like PL where he is not even a common pick and still the most hated hero in the pool.

I don't mind Gyro or Naix that much, I think they are fine to watch. Bat, while being too good, can also be really fun to see.

For me Kotl and Nyx are more annoying. Kotl is just plain boring to watch. For Mag, I think RP is fine. He always had RP and it was always an amazing spell, the rest of his skillset was just much worse. I think messing with Shockwave or something would be a better way to change him.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 23 2013 13:48 GMT
#52897
the only issue i have with kotl is illuminate which is a pretty boring spell (imo should be reworked to more of a skillshot aoe), otherwise the hero is great
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
April 23 2013 13:52 GMT
#52898
I hate literally everything about that hero
maybe except for mana leak which is a cool spell
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 23 2013 14:00 GMT
#52899
Buff Crystal Maiden, I used to pick her all the time

now I just pick Rubick everytime.
WriterXiao8~~
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 23 2013 14:02 GMT
#52900
I like his ult and mana leak is pretty cool, but illuminate is a really boring spell, chackra can create some really annoying lanes and the way the hero can promote turtling games can be an issue.

I think a change to how illuminate worked would be nice, and maybe even making Chackra give less mana when used on other heroes. Or upping it's mana cost a bit, which could have basically the same effect.
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