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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 19 2013 17:25 GMT
#48161
http://www.team-empire.org/news/1174/?lang=en
Vigoss officially in Empire. I'm a big fan of him from way back, but I gotta admit he wasn't very impressive in Empire so far. :S Let's hope they work things out and become better with time.
super gg
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 19 2013 17:26 GMT
#48162
The countdowns for him to drop out of another team start NOW!
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
March 19 2013 17:29 GMT
#48163
yeah vigoss has not been performing but I still have faith, remembering how godlike he was in dota 1
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
March 19 2013 17:34 GMT
#48164
I've jsut met the most mannered PL, he had free farm because my team was doing stuff all around the map but he went vlad, treads BF.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
March 19 2013 17:36 GMT
#48165
He hasn't been performing ever since he started playing again actively with Dota2. Hope that he would be able to perform up to his own old standards soon. Still wish Empire the best of Luck with him, now that he's officially part of their team.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 19 2013 17:37 GMT
#48166
On March 20 2013 02:29 MyXoMoPBL wrote:
yeah vigoss has not been performing but I still have faith, remembering how godlike he was in dota 1


At what point do we realize that he was good for one metagame cycle? Since then he's been at best unreliable and at worst terrible.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
March 19 2013 17:39 GMT
#48167
On March 20 2013 02:37 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 02:29 MyXoMoPBL wrote:
yeah vigoss has not been performing but I still have faith, remembering how godlike he was in dota 1


At what point do we realize that he was good for one metagame cycle? Since then he's been at best unreliable and at worst terrible.



Huh? he was good for a very long time, even during his "comebacks" in dota 1
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 17:48:46
March 19 2013 17:47 GMT
#48168
He was good with VP. In fairness, that's longer than one metagame cycle, though his reputation was solely built during the 6.4 Blink Dagger days (and the number of tournaments was pretty small. Just ASUS and the MYM PriDes). Since then he's moved from team to team and been mechanically unimpressive and a tactical wildcard at best. I mean, jesus, during his first comeback he threw more games for LOST than Ducky did.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
March 19 2013 17:48 GMT
#48169
if you watch his stream, he has numpad hotkeys and he clicks on items to activate them
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 19 2013 17:51 GMT
#48170
I thought player bashing wasn't allowed or something.

Besides, being good and being a good pickup are 2 very different things. EG have proven that being popular is a better business proposition than being good (I'm talking EG the organization not necessarily the dota team here).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 18:07:58
March 19 2013 18:07 GMT
#48171
Just won a 60 min game against nyx and pl pickers ama
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 19 2013 18:08 GMT
#48172
not every team can win big tournys and have popular players like navi. sometimes just having popular players is good enough! gotta bring in the viewers and sponsors.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#48173
On March 20 2013 03:07 Teton wrote:
Just won a 60 min game against nyx and pl pickers ama

How?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
March 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#48174
He picked Magnus, obviously. JK ^^.
ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
March 19 2013 18:15 GMT
#48175
Hey man just because you pick a hero doesn't mean you can play it. I once played with a PL that went Radiance as his 6th item, 65 minutes into the game. It made me hurt on the inside.

We lost of course
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42415 Posts
March 19 2013 18:33 GMT
#48176
The GD show in 25mins.

http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/new
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 19 2013 18:50 GMT
#48177
On March 20 2013 02:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I thought player bashing wasn't allowed or something.

Besides, being good and being a good pickup are 2 very different things. EG have proven that being popular is a better business proposition than being good (I'm talking EG the organization not necessarily the dota team here).


Oh, completely true. It works only if you can get stuff out of the player. Incontrol and Idra stream a ton, do stuff for sponsors and are completely professional at all times. Vigoss has done that precisely never. Not even when he was at his best as a player, four years ago. The requirements of a pro player are completely different. It's not just about having replays of wrecking face with Necronomicon-QoP in EEDL anymore.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-19 19:08:36
March 19 2013 19:06 GMT
#48178
On March 20 2013 03:15 BlitzerSC wrote:
He picked Magnus, obviously. JK ^^.


Shadow demon, making my own army of the little fucker .
Plus tiny pretty good

hard game, fucking nyx getting way too big.

the game just felt very good
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42415 Posts
March 19 2013 19:07 GMT
#48179
On March 20 2013 03:33 Grettin wrote:
The GD show in 25mins.

http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/new


Live now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
March 19 2013 19:09 GMT
#48180
On March 20 2013 04:06 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2013 03:15 BlitzerSC wrote:
He picked Magnus, obviously. JK ^^.


Shadow demon, making my own army of the little fucker .
Plus tiny pretty good

hard game, fucking nyx getting way too big.

the game just felt very good


Yeah, I hate nyx as well. I'm glad you won though .
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