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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 14 2013 04:57 GMT
#47541
my problem is that compare to dire small camp, the box of radiant small camp is much bigger and therefore harder to stack, easier to ward ~_~ but yeah they seriously fuck up by tweaking these argro timing thing. How is this in war3? you still can stack at 52 i bet
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 14 2013 05:48 GMT
#47542
oh man went up against zeus warlock and got wrecked hard. Makes one wonder if zeus could be used outside of pubs.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 14 2013 06:20 GMT
#47543
Just saw this on Merlini's stream. Can't wait to see some (more) of the amazing stuff done with SFM once dota2's at its peak popularity

Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 07:52:02
March 14 2013 07:50 GMT
#47544
Last night,i tried playing on the EU server.

I wanted to throw my keyboard & mouse into my moniter. 400ms(using netgraph)...equates to 2sec reaction time. It was like trying to play 2 sec into the future.

I think i have a future as a oracle now. <-- i am bad at puns
Mew Mew Pew Pew
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 14 2013 09:00 GMT
#47545
On March 14 2013 16:50 Mithhaike wrote:
Last night,i tried playing on the EU server.

I wanted to throw my keyboard & mouse into my moniter. 400ms(using netgraph)...equates to 2sec reaction time. It was like trying to play 2 sec into the future.

I think i have a future as a oracle now. <-- i am bad at puns

400ms sucks for sure, but how are you getting 2 seconds from that?

i iz confuzzed
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 09:06:00
March 14 2013 09:05 GMT
#47546
On March 14 2013 14:48 drew-chan wrote:
oh man went up against zeus warlock and got wrecked hard. Makes one wonder if zeus could be used outside of pubs.

There's lots of combos that can be good in the mid/late game but getting there is another thing. Zeus/warlock would have laning issues unless you go support warlock, but support warlock is pretty weak early on without mass team fights.

Also, zeus gets countered by pipe
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 14 2013 09:25 GMT
#47547
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 14 2013 09:27 GMT
#47548
Skywrath Mage is like Zeus except you trade the global ultimate for being an absolute monster in lane.
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drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
March 14 2013 09:29 GMT
#47549
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.


I used to lane him as position 3 on an offensive trilane when i'm with a 5stack, was kinda meh too so I kinda get your point. Oh well, a man can only dream.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 14 2013 09:34 GMT
#47550
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.

Mouz picked him a couple of times in matches and fata said he thinks that people still underrate him.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 14 2013 09:36 GMT
#47551
I honestly think they need to redesign Zeus. In theory he is neat with his abilities. But he falls pretty hard and is easily shut down by resist/pipe.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 14 2013 09:46 GMT
#47552
On March 14 2013 15:20 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Just saw this on Merlini's stream. Can't wait to see some (more) of the amazing stuff done with SFM once dota2's at its peak popularity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ykbVt1ZaJM

If you need more I add the newest ones here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392555
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 14 2013 09:46 GMT
#47553
yeah warlock + aoe is always good. Stuff like lock lesh, lock shaker lock OD. one that isn't aoe but is really fun is Lock Bloodseeker. everyone on enemy team gets soooo mad when ruptured guy moves.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 14 2013 09:55 GMT
#47554
On March 14 2013 18:34 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.

Mouz picked him a couple of times in matches and fata said he thinks that people still underrate him.

How did they run him?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 14 2013 10:02 GMT
#47555
On March 14 2013 18:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
yeah warlock + aoe is always good. Stuff like lock lesh, lock shaker lock OD. one that isn't aoe but is really fun is Lock Bloodseeker. everyone on enemy team gets soooo mad when ruptured guy moves.

Axe + Warlock on lane is fun. Fatal bonds the enemy hero to creeps and use battlehunger him, then have axe spin the creeps to death and the hero is almost dead already.
super gg
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 14 2013 10:04 GMT
#47556
On March 14 2013 18:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 18:34 SilverStar wrote:
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.

Mouz picked him a couple of times in matches and fata said he thinks that people still underrate him.

How did they run him?

Solo mid. The clever thing was that later on in the game they used his ult to scout. In the game I saw, the zeus ultimate scouted out 3 smoke ganks in the midgame.
super gg
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
March 14 2013 10:09 GMT
#47557
On March 14 2013 18:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 18:34 SilverStar wrote:
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.

Mouz picked him a couple of times in matches and fata said he thinks that people still underrate him.

How did they run him?

You can watch the games here: http://dota-academy.com/hero/41/
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 14 2013 10:21 GMT
#47558
I love zeus and he is the unorthodox type hero that requires team to build around him in comp scene imo. Run him mid get some fast levels with some gank from your side lane and then transition to po4/5 (that's why he is 'unorthodox' and requires some unique type of mid player to play him imagine dendi go buy wards) that follows the team to make aggresive team fights all day, sounds workable in current 'facerush' era. He is the support killer and counter carries so good until they get bkb/pipe.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 14 2013 10:23 GMT
#47559
On March 14 2013 19:04 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 18:55 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On March 14 2013 18:34 SilverStar wrote:
On March 14 2013 18:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:
The main problem with Zeus (IMO) is that he doesn't fit into any lane. He obviously can't play offlane, he can't support and he's a terrible mid. That leaves you with 1 position or some sort of dual lane mid or something.

Actually, Warlock/Zeus dual lane mid could work. Maybe. That sounds really fun. I highly doubt it would work competitively but I'd love to see it tried.

Mouz picked him a couple of times in matches and fata said he thinks that people still underrate him.

How did they run him?

Solo mid. The clever thing was that later on in the game they used his ult to scout. In the game I saw, the zeus ultimate scouted out 3 smoke ganks in the midgame.


His ult at times reminds me of spectre, using it to scout every so often.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 14 2013 10:30 GMT
#47560
dat new model for a dropped divine

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