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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 19 2013 15:37 GMT
#43881
So there's a drama around scheduling right now. VP has a scheduled match in TPL against aL at the same as VP vs Empire at EMS. TPL don't want to reschedule and now we get these tweets.

"Vitalii Volochai @v1lat
And we won't see epic match @TeamVirtusPro vs @team_empire tonight. THANK YOU The Premier League - best league ever"

"Toby Dawson @TobiWanDOTA
So, it seems that TPL will not move on their schedule, forcing @TeamVirtuspro to FF their match against @team_empire in the @RaidCallEMSOne"

Honestly, I don't think I understand the hate on TPL. Their match has most likely been scheduled for the date for way longer than the EMS cup one. I wouldn't have moved the date because of them either. Empire seems to agree (google translated from Russian):

"Team Empire @team_empire
@v1lat @TeamVirtusPro time signature can be and to think in advance about what you at the same time a lot of things to play, why only TPL blame?)"
super gg
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 19 2013 15:41 GMT
#43882
because they obviously think they are the superior casters and thus deserve whatever they demand
POGGERS
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
February 19 2013 15:47 GMT
#43883
Put the blame on TPL, while it was actually the team themself deciding this way. They could have chosen to ditch the TPL match in favor of EMS, but they didn't want to. But go ahead blame TPL. This is no drama, this is just complete bullshit behaviour from v1lat & Tobi, who are mad, because they can't cast TPL.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 19 2013 15:55 GMT
#43884
On February 20 2013 00:47 Talron wrote:
Put the blame on TPL, while it was actually the team themself deciding this way. They could have chosen to ditch the TPL match in favor of EMS, but they didn't want to. But go ahead blame TPL. This is no drama, this is just complete bullshit behaviour from v1lat & Tobi, who are mad, because they can't cast TPL.

This. Also, it's ridiculous that it's just Tobi and V1lat tweeting crap like this. There's nothing at https://twitter.com/RaidCallEMSOne or https://twitter.com/KawaDota about this.
super gg
infussle
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom66 Posts
February 19 2013 16:08 GMT
#43885
Christ, Tobi is so infuriatingly inept...
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 19 2013 16:09 GMT
#43886
yay time for more tobi bashing @literallyhitler.

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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 19 2013 16:31 GMT
#43887
On February 20 2013 01:09 Comeh wrote:
yay time for more tobi bashing @literallyhitler.

-_____________-

Sometimes, I really hate esports.

Yeah, I'm not sure where the anger is coming from this one. V1lat is being a child but Tobi just gave information and didn't complain that I can see.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 16:38:04
February 19 2013 16:34 GMT
#43888
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 19 2013 16:38 GMT
#43889
I just wish that Valve could implement a feature that allows tournament matches to be hidden so that matches could be played at times that suits the teams and later casted from replays.
EZ4ENCE
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 16:39:25
February 19 2013 16:39 GMT
#43890
But some people fucking hate replay casts. There are plenty of people who'd simply not watch it if they knew it was a replay.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
February 19 2013 16:42 GMT
#43891
idk why you guys are so excised about this, just watch EGL stream, casters go off on break between games to "drink some weed"
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 19 2013 16:44 GMT
#43892
@Unleashing

And some of us was tiered to death a long time ago by all the drama within e-sports
EZ4ENCE
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
February 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#43893
CWM stealing my super pro Jugg build on his stream !

It does work only if you play as a secondary carry/initiator, it sucks for real lategame.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
StuFFofLegenDS
Profile Joined October 2002
United States245 Posts
February 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#43894
Gotta post just to give another thumbs up to this Thai stream. Too funny.
And NO sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find...I shall KILL you.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 19 2013 16:46 GMT
#43895
On February 20 2013 01:34 Unleashing wrote:
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.

Oh, c'mon. If you really want you can twist the tweet into some passive-aggressive attack, but there's no reason to do so that I can see and there is absolutely no explicit criticism - "forcing" something negative doesn't automatically imply blame in English.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
February 19 2013 16:49 GMT
#43896
On February 20 2013 01:46 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 01:34 Unleashing wrote:
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.

Oh, c'mon. If you really want you can twist the tweet into some passive-aggressive attack, but there's no reason to do so that I can see and there is absolutely no explicit criticism - "forcing" something negative doesn't automatically imply blame in English.


Considering that Tobi also retweeted v1lat's
And we won't see epic match @TeamVirtusPro vs @team_empire tonight. THANK YOU The Premier League - best league ever

It should be pretty clear that tobi tweet was everything but neutral.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 16:52:37
February 19 2013 16:50 GMT
#43897
On February 20 2013 01:46 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 01:34 Unleashing wrote:
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.

Oh, c'mon. If you really want you can twist the tweet into some passive-aggressive attack, but there's no reason to do so that I can see and there is absolutely no explicit criticism - "forcing" something negative doesn't automatically imply blame in English.

If he was neutral then he would've just tweeted that sadly due to conflicting schedules from TPL and EMS VP had to FF a match.
Tweeting that due to TPL not changing their schedule VP was forced to FF a match is not neutral.

On February 20 2013 01:44 WindWolf wrote:
@Unleashing

And some of us was tiered to death a long time ago by all the drama within e-sports

It tires me too, but i hate replay casts.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 19 2013 16:55 GMT
#43898
I just don't understand why EMS don't reschedule the match by a couple hours... It shouldn't be much issue for them, considering the official stream is a bedroom cast by Kawa and Epi.
super gg
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 19 2013 16:57 GMT
#43899
On February 20 2013 01:49 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 01:46 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:34 Unleashing wrote:
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.

Oh, c'mon. If you really want you can twist the tweet into some passive-aggressive attack, but there's no reason to do so that I can see and there is absolutely no explicit criticism - "forcing" something negative doesn't automatically imply blame in English.


Considering that Tobi also retweeted v1lat's
Show nested quote +
And we won't see epic match @TeamVirtusPro vs @team_empire tonight. THANK YOU The Premier League - best league ever

It should be pretty clear that tobi tweet was everything but neutral.

I didn't realise he'd retweeted that.

Fair enough then.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 19 2013 17:08 GMT
#43900
On February 20 2013 01:57 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 01:49 Yoshi- wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:46 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On February 20 2013 01:34 Unleashing wrote:
His tweet said that TPL forced VP to FF their match. Or rather that TPL not wanting to change their schedule forced VP to FF their match.
Yes he didn't complain, but that's still bullshit. TPL did not force VP to do anything. They have their schedule planned and have every right in the world to not change it.

It would've been way more accurate to tweet that EMS being bad at scheduling forced VP to FF, seeing that the TPL schedule has been official for much longer.

I wont bash tobi, but his tweet kind of makes TPL looks like bad guys.

Oh, c'mon. If you really want you can twist the tweet into some passive-aggressive attack, but there's no reason to do so that I can see and there is absolutely no explicit criticism - "forcing" something negative doesn't automatically imply blame in English.


Considering that Tobi also retweeted v1lat's
And we won't see epic match @TeamVirtusPro vs @team_empire tonight. THANK YOU The Premier League - best league ever

It should be pretty clear that tobi tweet was everything but neutral.

I didn't realise he'd retweeted that.

Fair enough then.

IMO this just feels like forced drama, at least on the part of Tobi / Vilat (and vilat is more to blame than tobi in this). I feel like we are just waiting here for some more drama in the esports scene, and it gets really tiring. Whatever, feel free to just tobi-bash like every other day, but on my radar this is barely a blip.
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