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The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
December 02 2012 11:33 GMT
#31601
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
December 02 2012 11:35 GMT
#31602
On December 02 2012 20:33 The Irate Turk wrote:
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way

You realise that there are European countries that have Russian as official language? There is no rule saying that you have to speak English on the EU servers. People like you make me sick with their xenophobe talk.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 02 2012 11:40 GMT
#31603
On December 02 2012 20:33 The Irate Turk wrote:
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way

I don't have anything against them.

If you went to JFK and spoke Russian to the guy, he wouldn't feel offended that you were trying to speak Russian to him, he would try to find an official translator for you. Sure that's not possible in Dota, but your comparison doesn't really work.
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chaosfreak11
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore367 Posts
December 02 2012 11:45 GMT
#31604
On December 02 2012 18:09 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ohey, learn something new every day. The difference between crit and non crit on illusions was unnoticeable so I had thought that it was just a fake number.


I almost got 1 shotted by chaos knight's illusion doing a 800 crit as cm, damn do they hurt
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
December 02 2012 11:49 GMT
#31605
CKs illus do 100% damage, they DO hurt
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
December 02 2012 12:03 GMT
#31606
On December 02 2012 20:45 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 18:09 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ohey, learn something new every day. The difference between crit and non crit on illusions was unnoticeable so I had thought that it was just a fake number.


I almost got 1 shotted by chaos knight's illusion doing a 800 crit as cm, damn do they hurt

CK != PL illusions, but yeah I get your point ^_^
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rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
December 02 2012 12:19 GMT
#31607
On December 02 2012 20:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 20:33 The Irate Turk wrote:
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way

I don't have anything against them.

If you went to JFK and spoke Russian to the guy, he wouldn't feel offended that you were trying to speak Russian to him, he would try to find an official translator for you. Sure that's not possible in Dota, but your comparison doesn't really work.


Chances are, we'll all have to learn Mandarin sooner or later anway
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 02 2012 12:20 GMT
#31608
On December 02 2012 20:33 The Irate Turk wrote:
The fact that they would join a game on European servers and speak in Russian when they have their personal Russian servers betrays a lot about them to begin with.

It's like me going to JFK airport and speaking Russian to the guy at the immigration desk and expecting shit to go my way

Wat, you do realize that a big majority of the people who speak russian live in the part of the world we tend to call europe?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
December 02 2012 12:23 GMT
#31609
Daedalus on PL is legit, specially since the 4.2 agi/level buff, because it makes the 42.5% increase that much more powerful.

Some math from the illusions:

Lvl 25 PL with Agility power treads, radiance, diffusal blade, heart and butterfly

144 AGI + 8 + 26 + 30 = 208 agility

Damage per hit = (33 base + 208 agility)*0.25(illusion) + 36 from diffusal = 93.25 damage/hit

Attack speed = (1+2.08)/1.7 = 1.81 attacks/s

DPS = 1.81 * 93.25 = 168.78




Lvl 25 PL with Agility power treads, radiance, diffusal blade, heart and daedalus

144 AGI + 8 + 26 = 178 agility

Damage per hit = (33 base + 178 agility)*1.425 (daedalus)*0.25(illusion) + 36 from diffusal = 111.1 damage/hit

Attack speed = (1+1.78)/1.7 = 1.64 attacks/s

DPS = 1.64*11.1 = 182 DPS





As you can see, daedalus makes your illusions deal a bit more damage (and your hero much more damage, won't do the math) than butterfly. On the other hand, butterfly gives you more survivability, mana burn and faster illusion replication.

Usually butterfly is better, but if your illusions aren't getting killed, Daedalus lets you kill heroes better and push faster (because melee creeps lack mana, and butterfly build is more reliant on mana burn).

So yeah, daedalus has its place, specially as sixth item.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 12:49:32
December 02 2012 12:34 GMT
#31610
Daedalus is legit for PL, but you don't exactly lack damage, you lack survivability, we can all agree on that. I think that if you want it, you should get it after butterfly. But I would get AC over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
December 02 2012 13:28 GMT
#31611
AC on PL?
With that amount of agi he gets he have a high amount of amour.

"Yeah buddy"
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
December 02 2012 13:30 GMT
#31612
On December 02 2012 22:28 Ramong wrote:
AC on PL?
With that amount of agi he gets he have a high amount of amour.



Its the armor reduction aura, really helps you deal out the damage, and with your illusions you're sure to cover everyone with it.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 02 2012 13:39 GMT
#31613
and the attack speed aura affects your illusions and allow them to push better on their own(Plus it works on buildings)
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 02 2012 13:50 GMT
#31614
Yeah, with it you can 1v5 really easily. I did it yesterday :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 02 2012 13:54 GMT
#31615
On December 02 2012 22:50 Erasme wrote:
Yeah, with it you can 1v5 really easily. I did it yesterday :D


True, I witnessed it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 02 2012 14:33 GMT
#31616
Radiance
Heart
Diffusal level 2.
Butterfly
Buriza/AC/Manta
Travels.

Fuck everyone up.
WriterXiao8~~
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 02 2012 14:33 GMT
#31617
Imo ditch the radiance and get manta/mkb instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
December 02 2012 14:51 GMT
#31618
If you dodge a CM match does your queue automatically go up by 30 minutes like in LoL????
"En taro adun, Executor."
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
December 02 2012 14:56 GMT
#31619
Since PRD has been applied, Axe 3rd skill doesnt proc that much compared last time.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
December 02 2012 14:58 GMT
#31620
Axe 3. skill doesn't even use prd
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