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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 01 2012 22:21 GMT
#31541
On December 02 2012 07:11 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On December 02 2012 06:52 cilinder007 wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
Those stats also have dumb things like invoker as 43% winrate, morphling as the worst character, antimage only better than brood morph and meepo, lich as one of the best. Pub play is so different from competitive play it's not really worth it to use as any argument.

to be fair, morph is pretty shit now

he's still a good character. he's no where near the bottom tier.

Eh, no he's pretty bad in pubs, even in 6.74 his win-rate was low in pubs. With the recent nerfs, he's a REALLY bad hero.
Heroes work differently in pubs anyway.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
December 01 2012 22:46 GMT
#31542
It's not just the hero but with certain heroes reappearing in the current patch make it hard for morph. NS is good vs morph and I feel undying isn't bad either. Though the nerfs certainly hurt him alot, waveform is quite dodgeable and morph got a ton weaker. Especially in pubs, he's still quite playable, if you know how. His previously low WR before the patch was probably because tons of people saw TI2 and played him not knowing the basics. I feel morph is a fairly easy hero to play once you have a basic grasp of how he works, which is a little awkward at first.
Dota 3hard5me
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 01 2012 22:46 GMT
#31543
On December 02 2012 06:11 SpiZe wrote:
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On December 02 2012 06:09 obesechicken13 wrote:
Hi. I'm kinda new. Quick question. When you're carrying gem of true sight, and you die, the gem get's dropped right?

I couldn't find the gem where I thought I'd died.

Also can you buy another one if the timer (10min) has passed?


Yes the gem gets dropped in the exact spot you died but the other team can either pick it up or destroy it and yes you can buy another gem no problem.

Ah. They probably took it :/
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 22:58:58
December 01 2012 22:57 GMT
#31544
I'm currently 35th on that Invoker ranking... I keep doing it in between games and then I'm forced to stop to pick heroes :/

Still have no idea how people hit 200sec though, it's supposed to keep getting harder over time.

edit: 22nd on Classic though this one doesn't really count.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 01 2012 23:16 GMT
#31545
You can game the system a little bit in survival and just wait until time is almost out to invoke the spells. which increases your time survived while keeping difficulty as low as possible
banatboy
Profile Joined December 2012
120 Posts
December 02 2012 00:01 GMT
#31546
http://i.imgur.com/xwWGG.jpg

LOL Drow Ranger 59.06% win rate.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
December 02 2012 00:21 GMT
#31547
On December 02 2012 09:01 banatboy wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/xwWGG.jpg

LOL Drow Ranger 59.06% win rate.


But watch at games played.. Drow is very popular hero in pubs

Im suprised to see Necrolyte in top 5.. more then drow on 1
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#31548
I am more surprised that warlock is over 50%.
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
December 02 2012 00:34 GMT
#31549
Games involving Drow are so fucking boring and lame, I don't get it while people are insta picking this shit.

Also my games are more and more one sided, either my team stomps or we get stomped hard. On-the-edge games are very rare. I think it was better before the big patch. MMR needs some changes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
December 02 2012 00:43 GMT
#31550
On December 02 2012 09:34 toemn wrote:
Games involving Drow are so fucking boring and lame, I don't get it while people are insta picking this shit.

Also my games are more and more one sided, either my team stomps or we get stomped hard. On-the-edge games are very rare. I think it was better before the big patch. MMR needs some changes.

Yeah, I have noticed this as well. Most of my games are around 30 minutes or less. Maybe once or twice a day I go over 40 min.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 00:54:55
December 02 2012 00:48 GMT
#31551
On December 02 2012 07:18 Implenia wrote:
http://www.invokergame.com/scoreboard/survival/

ice^3 on 2nd place. :D


Gave this a shot, scored 185seconds

I think you really have to memorize the spells to do well at this, I kept looking at the stupid spell list since I never play invoker.
I think with practice 200-300+ should be pretty easy, it didn't seem to get harder tbh. Not sure how high scores are so low lol

edit: 202 seconds screw it. It was actually getting difficult, ignore my previous post. Top3 is good enough for me
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 01:00:13
December 02 2012 00:59 GMT
#31552
On December 02 2012 09:34 toemn wrote:
Games involving Drow are so fucking boring and lame, I don't get it while people are insta picking this shit.

Also my games are more and more one sided, either my team stomps or we get stomped hard. On-the-edge games are very rare. I think it was better before the big patch. MMR needs some changes.


Your typical pub game scenario:

Some stacks immediately take safelane after the game started, you pick drow and then announce to the team: 'np i hardlane drow and i will carry this anyway'. Proceed to get more last hit than that babysit-ted safelane carry and carry the game.

Drow is the savior of pub games!!!!

On December 01 2012 21:38 Qbek wrote:
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On December 01 2012 21:36 BurningSera wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:09 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:07 BurningSera wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:05 Qbek wrote:
On December 01 2012 21:04 BurningSera wrote:
You all selfish players. I am a team player so sometimes when i randomed i go for courier+fly courier+sentry+ward+GG branch.

Noob detected, no smoke of deceit


pfff, clearly i go steal 2 creeps from my carry to get that smoke sending from my crow so i can smoke gank mid. I don't give a damn when the mid needed that crow for his bottle.

As I said, noob, that's how you get your second smoke


pfff my ganking timing is at professional, one smoke is enough for the first 3mins in game!

Pfff wannabe pro, you get smoke ASAP to make the most out of the restock times.


Q_Q tryhard!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
December 02 2012 01:28 GMT
#31553
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
December 02 2012 01:31 GMT
#31554
ZSMJ's new team to be sponsored by LGD? http://dotaland.net/2012/12/01/chisbug-reveals-a-little-more-on-zsmjs-new-team-three-confirmed-members-sponsored-by-lgd-as-well/
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#31555
LGD for everyone

Sauces all around.
WriterXiao8~~
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
December 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#31556
On December 02 2012 10:28 ToguRo wrote:
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?


I wouldn't go as far as crazy, but I would definitely like to hear some reasoning behind it. I would call skeleton king generic, but not wisp. I find it a very odd choice of word for him.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 02 2012 01:35 GMT
#31557
On December 02 2012 10:28 ToguRo wrote:
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?

Yes.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 02 2012 01:36 GMT
#31558
On December 02 2012 10:28 ToguRo wrote:
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?


Graphics wise? Yeah he's pretty boring. Just a glowing ball.
Ability wise though he's hella cool.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#31559
On December 02 2012 10:28 ToguRo wrote:
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?


How is wisp generic or boring. It's like one of the most unique support heroes in the game.
Morton
Profile Joined July 2012
United States152 Posts
December 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#31560
On December 02 2012 10:28 ToguRo wrote:
about 90 dota heroes are fantastic and interesting with awesome abilities and uniqueness

BUT

am I crazy to think Wisp is the most boring generic thing ever created in a video game ?


looks wise i would kinda agree he/it/she is pretty generic, though definitely not super ugly (like a few heros *cough* necrolyte *cough*)

ability wise his role is pretty straightforwards as a babysitter, but his spells are fun to use and different than other supports. As long as my lane partner is communicative i have a blast with wisp
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