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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 16 2012 19:54 GMT
#25321
Puck is very situational and also is probably the one hero that benefits the most from low ping. No wonder it's not picked a lot
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 16 2012 19:58 GMT
#25322
It is potentially, the strongest mid currently. The top 3 most picked mids are rubrick, TA and Invoker. Puck can take on invoker in last hits and won't die to him. He can rubricks fade bolt and give rubrick phase shift which is not nearly as bad as anything else he can give him. Any good mid player has great mechanics to play the hero and if a player is having ping issues, he should not be playing anyway. That is stupid to have to give a player a handicap cause the tournament setup is dumb.
if you can believe you can concieve
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 16 2012 19:58 GMT
#25323
On October 17 2012 04:48 TheWarbler wrote:
Puck goes 7/7 in IT2 and does not get picked now. Captains are smart.

Honestly those kinds of numbers can be really deceptive because they don't say anything about the situations WHEN those heroes are picked. A hero could have very high winrates as counterpicks against certain heroes/teamcomps or with certain heroes/teamcomps but be comparatively weak in other scenarios--they would still put up a high winrate because of captains picking them in those situations, but still not be a good normal pick because of their situational limitations.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 16 2012 20:01 GMT
#25324
Rubick*
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 20:04:26
October 16 2012 20:02 GMT
#25325
Show me a bad situation for puck. Their is no super counter pick for like slardar for riki and that does not even work. Also captains are picking invoker when Ta is already picked. That is one of the dumbest decisions if you plan to lane him mid.
if you can believe you can concieve
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 16 2012 20:06 GMT
#25326
Regardless he had ridiculously high winrate anyway with more than 2 games played
if you can believe you can concieve
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 20:11:00
October 16 2012 20:09 GMT
#25327
iirc puck won most of the time because one team outclassed the other
he's not a strong pick because he's really awkward to lane, at best he breaks even against the vast majority of heroes
plus his damage output is kind of weak, but that's not as important as his awful laning
edit: also he lacks real disables =\
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 16 2012 20:10 GMT
#25328
On October 17 2012 04:54 Qbek wrote:
Puck is very situational and also is probably the one hero that benefits the most from low ping. No wonder it's not picked a lot

Woop woop we have a winner.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
October 16 2012 20:12 GMT
#25329
Puck can beat any top hero mid, if the player is good enough he will not die and get exp and gold. Puck has a really good animation and damage output.
if you can believe you can concieve
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 16 2012 20:14 GMT
#25330
On October 17 2012 05:12 TheWarbler wrote:
Puck can beat any top hero mid, if the player is good enough he will not die and get exp and gold. Puck has a really good animation and damage output.

yeah he will not die and get exp
gold is questionable though
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 16 2012 20:17 GMT
#25331
Laning isn't the problem for puck, it's quite good at it. It's the awkward mid/late game that's the problem. The damage is decent but rather hard to hit and no big disable(only silence is big) and the fact that there are some situations where the ult can be just ignored makes the kit really awkward. A mid laner that is an initiator and not a ganker is rather hard to play around and on offlane there are many better heroes. And Puck really is no ganker, not when compared to other heroes with similar laning
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#25332
On October 17 2012 04:31 Implenia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 04:30 Knightess wrote:
lol sc2 pros playing custom games dota 2 betting money on it on catz stream. Pretty cool :D

Stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ROOTCatZ


Catz, Drewbie, select, ddoro and TubbyTheFat against PainUser and dBergie + 3.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 16 2012 20:22 GMT
#25333
he gets crushed by all the common mids
invoker, ta, rubick all win the lane pretty comfortably
i mean he does okay against some heroes like qop storm but the vast majority of heroes outlane him
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 16 2012 20:23 GMT
#25334
On October 17 2012 05:02 TheWarbler wrote:
Show me a bad situation for puck. Their is no super counter pick for like slardar for riki and that does not even work. Also captains are picking invoker when Ta is already picked. That is one of the dumbest decisions if you plan to lane him mid.

bloodseeker
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-16 20:27:00
October 16 2012 20:23 GMT
#25335
hey guyz we are playing dota2 bc we enjoy playing it.... i like this trend a lot

mention of drafting: Personally i think silencer need an aura range buff so he could finally be in competitive line up. I have been testing him out and everything is GREAT BUT the aura int steal. He is way too immobile to get in range for early int steal. Meanwhile razor is SOOOOOOO strong omfg. I would be fucking frustrated if i ever have to play against a good razor competitively now.

Question: if necro unit use mana burn on razor, will they be purged off?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
October 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#25336
On October 17 2012 05:23 NB wrote:
hey guyz we are playing dota2 bc we enjoy playing it.... i like this trend a lot

I play dota because I feel empty and hollow inside and realize how horrible my life is when I'm not playing it.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#25337
On October 17 2012 05:26 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 05:23 NB wrote:
hey guyz we are playing dota2 bc we enjoy playing it.... i like this trend a lot

I play dota because I feel empty and hollow inside and realize how horrible my life is when I'm not playing it.

You might want to seek help with that O.o
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
October 16 2012 20:28 GMT
#25338
On October 17 2012 05:26 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 05:23 NB wrote:
hey guyz we are playing dota2 bc we enjoy playing it.... i like this trend a lot

I play dota because I feel empty and hollow inside and realize how horrible my life is when I'm not playing it.

Here have a hug <3
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
October 16 2012 20:30 GMT
#25339
On October 17 2012 05:28 Implenia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 05:26 Cool Cat wrote:
On October 17 2012 05:23 NB wrote:
hey guyz we are playing dota2 bc we enjoy playing it.... i like this trend a lot

I play dota because I feel empty and hollow inside and realize how horrible my life is when I'm not playing it.

Here have a hug <3

Group hug for the sad Dota players <3
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Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
October 16 2012 20:31 GMT
#25340
On October 17 2012 05:22 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 04:31 Implenia wrote:
On October 17 2012 04:30 Knightess wrote:
lol sc2 pros playing custom games dota 2 betting money on it on catz stream. Pretty cool :D

Stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/ROOTCatZ


Catz, Drewbie, select, ddoro and TubbyTheFat against PainUser and dBergie + 3.


Painuser is amusing to listen to during ban/picks. Last game he insisted to get bs mid, got it after some whining and went on to lose horribly to Catz' invoker.
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