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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 14:41:04
October 15 2012 14:40 GMT
#25101
Lich? Boring?
You've clearly never gone solo mid lich with dagon e-blade.

LICH GON' HAV YO MANA.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
October 15 2012 14:50 GMT
#25102
Honestly Sand King and Pudge are nice heroes for beginners.

SK can influence the game even with minimal farm, and in the low skill bracket maxing sandstorm second is a good way of staying alive. Plus, with people picking mainly carries there, a stun is a godsend and a good ultimate can win you the game outright or at least put you very far ahead.

Pudge is an easy hero once you learn the way the hook works. Just a couple of bot games with him will teach you 75% of what you need to know (note that I'm talking only about the hero, not general gameplay things like last hitting or juking etc.). Hooking is easy as long as you can predict where the enemy is going to be in the next 2 seconds, and low level pubbies are predictable: most of the time if they want to run away they click straight back to base; when they chase they often over extend a whole lot and you can easily turn around kill them once dismember cools down. Add a nice natural tankyness and the desire to get kills/kill the one that killed them a lot so they focus a 3/4 hp pudge instead of the squishy carry next to you that has half your max health. Heck, playing Pudge teaches you exactly why you need good map awareness, a thing which most of the players lack, even in the higher brackets.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
October 15 2012 15:00 GMT
#25103
On October 15 2012 23:40 Unleashing wrote:
Lich? Boring?
You've clearly never gone solo mid lich with dagon e-blade.

LICH GON' HAV YO MANA.


Crystal Maiden is more fun. That's how boring Lich is.

On October 15 2012 23:50 akatama wrote:
Honestly Sand King and Pudge are nice heroes for beginners.

SK can influence the game even with minimal farm, and in the low skill bracket maxing sandstorm second is a good way of staying alive. Plus, with people picking mainly carries there, a stun is a godsend and a good ultimate can win you the game outright or at least put you very far ahead.

Pudge is an easy hero once you learn the way the hook works. Just a couple of bot games with him will teach you 75% of what you need to know (note that I'm talking only about the hero, not general gameplay things like last hitting or juking etc.). Hooking is easy as long as you can predict where the enemy is going to be in the next 2 seconds, and low level pubbies are predictable: most of the time if they want to run away they click straight back to base; when they chase they often over extend a whole lot and you can easily turn around kill them once dismember cools down. Add a nice natural tankyness and the desire to get kills/kill the one that killed them a lot so they focus a 3/4 hp pudge instead of the squishy carry next to you that has half your max health. Heck, playing Pudge teaches you exactly why you need good map awareness, a thing which most of the players lack, even in the higher brackets.


Shit I can't tell if you're joking.

Now I might be the Romanian.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
October 15 2012 15:11 GMT
#25104
On October 16 2012 00:00 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 23:40 Unleashing wrote:
Lich? Boring?
You've clearly never gone solo mid lich with dagon e-blade.

LICH GON' HAV YO MANA.


Crystal Maiden is more fun. That's how boring Lich is.



Are you serious? Crystal Maiden is incredibly fun, at least to me. By far my favourite support hero.

Religion: Buckethead
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 15 2012 15:11 GMT
#25105
Full srs, they can deny/outplay the shit out of pudge as a squishy int/agi but one lucky rune/hook/ult and you're golden.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
October 15 2012 15:12 GMT
#25106
On October 16 2012 00:11 RuskiPanda wrote:
Full srs, they can deny/outplay the shit out of pudge as a squishy int/agi but one lucky rune/hook/ult and you're golden.

Unless it's a viper and he gets first blood on the wisp/ursa that is trying to lvl 1 rosh

Then you end up going against a viper with first blood gold and a level up on you

Then you're a very sad pudge, as I just discovered
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Khull
Profile Joined November 2010
United States40 Posts
October 15 2012 16:01 GMT
#25107
Venge is by far the most fun support hero.

Swapsies, motherfucker.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 15 2012 16:27 GMT
#25108
Drow Ranger is the most fun support hero. Roaming Drow, madmortigan style.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 15 2012 16:29 GMT
#25109
On October 15 2012 19:31 Praetorial wrote:
Okay, I'm finally going to be making good on my promise to some people a while back to start playing DOTA 2.

I have a beta key. What are some champions that I should be taking a look at for starting?

I played a single game as support Shadow Demon a month ago, but that didn't really appeal to me.


Antimage & Morphling.

Have fun ^^
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
October 15 2012 16:48 GMT
#25110
I like Ancient Apparation the most prob. Long range artillary, oi!
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 16:50 GMT
#25111
On October 16 2012 01:48 hooahah wrote:
I like Ancient Apparation the most prob. Long range artillary, oi!

I'd rather play clockwerk if I'm in a mood for some global artillery
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 15 2012 17:12 GMT
#25112
Veno is my support of choice recently, you can support well and help getting a lot of kills and you can also jungle farm easily with wards when you have nothing better to do.
Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
October 15 2012 17:39 GMT
#25113
On October 16 2012 02:12 MrCon wrote:
Veno is my support of choice recently, you can support well and help getting a lot of kills and you can also jungle farm easily with wards when you have nothing better to do.

I fucking hate veno. I love playing support, but I hate this hero. No reason thou, I just suck with him and hate him.

+1 for venga as funniest #5
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#25114
I'd pick veno every time i support if he had a stun, he's just great with his lvl1 presence and the wards the best vision in the game
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 15 2012 17:42 GMT
#25115
Maiden obviously best support. Can´t best 3 sec stun and aoe slow.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 17:43 GMT
#25116
On October 16 2012 02:42 Mataza wrote:
Maiden obviously best support. Can´t best 3 sec stun and aoe slow.

Rubick support can do all that + more
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 15 2012 17:43 GMT
#25117
On October 16 2012 02:12 MrCon wrote:
Veno is my support of choice recently, you can support well and help getting a lot of kills and you can also jungle farm easily with wards when you have nothing better to do.

Problem with Veno imo is that playing him isn't very fun. Why? Because the whole enemy team hates your guts. HATES. And your team thinks "meh, it's Veno, we don't need him" and lets you die every fight.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 17:46 GMT
#25118
On October 16 2012 02:43 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 02:12 MrCon wrote:
Veno is my support of choice recently, you can support well and help getting a lot of kills and you can also jungle farm easily with wards when you have nothing better to do.

Problem with Veno imo is that playing him isn't very fun. Why? Because the whole enemy team hates your guts. HATES. And your team thinks "meh, it's Veno, we don't need him" and lets you die every fight.

Good support players enjoy situations like this, those sado maso freaks
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SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
October 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#25119
How do you properly combo veil+blink+ulti on sk. Is it Veil+start ulti+blink or Start ulti+blink+veil?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 17:52 GMT
#25120
When starting a fight, veil last, when midfight ulting veil first so the team can use the buff ASAP
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